How does GPL run under a TNT card these days or should I put the old voodoo3
back in ?
Athlon 700, 256 M ram...
Yes, I posted the following on 4/29:
<old post>
I use ME for GPL and the longer I play the slower the game gets. It's not a
memory
or processor or GPU problem: >512 MB, 1.4 GHz P4, and GF2. Exiting and
restarting GPL does nothing. I have to reboot to clear out whatever it is
that's getting clogged. In addition, GPL has gotten slower and slower in
general over time. My HD has plenty of space and I regularly defragment.
Don't know what it is. I only know that I used to run at 1280x1024 with
every setting at max, and now can really only run at 1024x768 with mirror
detail set to Cars & Track. I've never heard anyone complain of these
problems with 98. I'm considering downgrading to 98.
<old post>
By 'slower', I mean the sound and gameplay stutter, sometimes slowing the
game to a halt. It's incredibly irritating. This morning I completed the
Me -> 98 downgrade. The game runs brilliantly now. I've been driving for a
couple of hours, and there's no stuttering, even at 1600x1200 with every
setting at the maximum.
I hope you selected the option for uninstalling Me.
--Jeff
> I hope you selected the option for uninstalling Me.
> --Jeff
On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:07:11 -0400, "Jeffrey Rowe"
>Yes, I posted the following on 4/29:
><old post>
>I use ME for GPL and the longer I play the slower the game gets. It's not a
>memory
>or processor or GPU problem: >512 MB, 1.4 GHz P4, and GF2. Exiting and
>restarting GPL does nothing. I have to reboot to clear out whatever it is
>that's getting clogged. In addition, GPL has gotten slower and slower in
>general over time. My HD has plenty of space and I regularly defragment.
>Don't know what it is. I only know that I used to run at 1280x1024 with
>every setting at max, and now can really only run at 1024x768 with mirror
>detail set to Cars & Track. I've never heard anyone complain of these
>problems with 98. I'm considering downgrading to 98.
><old post>
>By 'slower', I mean the sound and gameplay stutter, sometimes slowing the
>game to a halt. It's incredibly irritating. This morning I completed the
>Me -> 98 downgrade. The game runs brilliantly now. I've been driving for a
>couple of hours, and there's no stuttering, even at 1600x1200 with every
>setting at the maximum.
>I hope you selected the option for uninstalling Me.
>--Jeff
>> Has anyone had any problems running GPL under windows ME ? I upgrade my
>> computer today and though I would pull out the Hyperstimulator to give it
>a
>> thash.
>> Could not get the controls to work AHHHHH!
>> Tried it on my old machine no probs so it must have something to do with
>the
>> joystic drivers ? any ideas.
>> How does GPL run under a TNT card these days or should I put the old
>voodoo3
>> back in ?
--
Ian P
<email invalid due to spammers>
> On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:07:11 -0400, "Jeffrey Rowe"
> >> Has anyone had any problems running GPL under windows ME ?
> >Yes, I posted the following on 4/29:
> ><old post>
> >I use ME for GPL and the longer I play the slower the game gets. It's not
a
> >memory
> >or processor or GPU problem: >512 MB, 1.4 GHz P4, and GF2. Exiting and
> >restarting GPL does nothing. I have to reboot to clear out whatever it is
> >that's getting clogged. In addition, GPL has gotten slower and slower in
> >general over time. My HD has plenty of space and I regularly defragment.
> >Don't know what it is. I only know that I used to run at 1280x1024 with
> >every setting at max, and now can really only run at 1024x768 with mirror
> >detail set to Cars & Track. I've never heard anyone complain of these
> >problems with 98. I'm considering downgrading to 98.
> ><old post>
> >By 'slower', I mean the sound and gameplay stutter, sometimes slowing the
> >game to a halt. It's incredibly irritating. This morning I completed the
> >Me -> 98 downgrade. The game runs brilliantly now. I've been driving for
a
> >couple of hours, and there's no stuttering, even at 1600x1200 with every
> >setting at the maximum.
> >I hope you selected the option for uninstalling Me.
> >--Jeff
> >> Has anyone had any problems running GPL under windows ME ? I upgrade my
> >> computer today and though I would pull out the Hyperstimulator to give
it
> >a
> >> thash.
> >> Could not get the controls to work AHHHHH!
> >> Tried it on my old machine no probs so it must have something to do
with
> >the
> >> joystic drivers ? any ideas.
> >> How does GPL run under a TNT card these days or should I put the old
> >voodoo3
> >> back in ?
IMO, System restore and PC health don't typically trip up your system while
you're in a game. Your mileage may vary.
--Jeff
> IMO, System restore and PC health don't typically trip up your system
while
> you're in a game. Your mileage may vary.
> > Turn off system restore and PC health.
Hard to say. I'd suspect a third party driver before ME. Your vid card
is?
I've had similar problems with WinME basically writing system backup files
of 50mb plus until the system partition is completely full (6 gb of it),
with the obvious resulting "grinding to a halt". Disabling system restore
solves it for the most part, and I've found Win98SE (my only other available
"downgrade") to be even more unstable and crash prone so I've stuck with ME
anyway.
cheers
John
Hmm. Interesting. When I reformatted to install 98 my disk was awfully full
for a computer that was only 6 weeks old, and I recall it filling up very
quickly. Maybe that's what it was. Too late now.
--Jeff
> > If the performance problem were caused by background processes or
> > faulty drivers, then the game would always stutter. But when GPL
> > starts up, and for the first, say, 15 minutes, it runs very well.
> > Then it starts slowing down, getting worse the longer I play. Again,
> > downgrading to 98 fixed everything. It appears to me that ME has
> > exposed a memory or resource leak in the program. Although I didn't
> > have a reliable system performance program that would have confirmed
> > this, that's exactly how a leaky program behaves. In NT, killing the
> > offending program will always free the resources; but 9x/Me aren't very
> good
> > about cleaning up after sloppy programs. Interestingly, NFSPU (yes,
> > I have played it) didn't exhibit the problem.
> > --Jeff
> cheers
> John
--
Ian P
<email invalid due to spammers>
> IMO, System restore and PC health don't typically trip up your system
while
> you're in a game. Your mileage may vary.
> > Turn off system restore and PC health.
I would stick with 98se if it works- I'd be using it now if it didn't give
me so much grief. Admittedly my PC is a mess of bits but ME is more tolerant
so I stick with it (performance is allegedly worse in ME).
If it aint broke don't fix it I suppose.
Reading a MS knowledge base article suggests turning off machine debug
manager (mdm.exe) both this and system restore can be shut off using
msconfig. mdm makes a lot of temp files in the windows dir, which can also
fill up the drive.
None of which is very good for playing games at the end of the day.
cheers
John
Doesn't 98SE have a version of System Restore of some sort?
--
Fester
