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Le Mans Top Speed?

Stephen Smit

Le Mans Top Speed?

by Stephen Smit » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 06:03:15

So?  I've only gotten 202 mph out of the Eagle on hard (22 psi) tires w. a
3.38 rear.  What am I doing wrong?

If GPLers are turning 3:15s, vs. only 3:28s for the 7-liter Fords with their

--Steve

Thom j

Le Mans Top Speed?

by Thom j » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 07:19:44

I got the same but used the default setup!! Ok hotshoes please lets us
have a few tips on your setups. We all know you guyz/galz have these
little secrets we don't know!! Come'on..Come'on..Fess'up!! Pleazze!!

| So?  I've only gotten 202 mph out of the Eagle on hard (22 psi) tires w. a
| 3.38 rear.  What am I doing wrong?
<snipp'ed'ed'ed>
| --Steve

Jonny Hodgso

Le Mans Top Speed?

by Jonny Hodgso » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 06:48:53


22's hard?  I only got 203 from the Honda at 30 psi at Smogbank with
zero toe etc...

Jonny

ymenar

Le Mans Top Speed?

by ymenar » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 12:53:09


> I got the same but used the default setup!! Ok hotshoes please lets us
> have a few tips on your setups. We all know you guyz/galz have these
> little secrets we don't know!! Come'on..Come'on..Fess'up!! Pleazze!!

How far do you draft with the person ahead?  Heck with a slow-arse cooper I
was able to go at 202mph :)

You really should keep your distance from the car ahead when you draft in
GPL, 2 car lengths minimum.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

MP

Le Mans Top Speed?

by MP » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:18:45

I agree with that, especially with VROC racing - I was thrown 100ft in
the air at 200mph last night in a race at LM. The driver behind was
tucked into my gearbox and pulled out to pass. Either a slight warp or a
driving error made our wheels touch - BAM!

The crash went on for miles:-)

- Michael

Thom j

Le Mans Top Speed?

by Thom j » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 18:50:37

Ooops sorry Fran?ois, If everyone is talking about runing down the
straight via multi-car, I was not.. My top end of 202mph is all alone
with the Eagle default setup.... I'd still like to know what setups will
be good for here! 'i.e a Spa, Monza etc with gear changes & other
changes in the setup!  Tia.. Thom_j.

| How far do you draft with the person ahead?  Heck with a slow-arse cooper
I
| was able to go at 202mph :)
|
| You really should keep your distance from the car ahead when you draft in
| GPL, 2 car lengths minimum.

Stephen Smit

Le Mans Top Speed?

by Stephen Smit » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 21:07:43

Nor I.  No drafting.  Just Vmax tips...anybody?

--Steve


> Ooops sorry Fran?ois, If everyone is talking about runing down the
> straight via multi-car, I was not.. My top end of 202mph is all alone
> with the Eagle default setup.... I'd still like to know what setups will
> be good for here! 'i.e a Spa, Monza etc with gear changes & other
> changes in the setup!  Tia.. Thom_j.


> | How far do you draft with the person ahead?  Heck with a slow-arse
cooper
> I
> | was able to go at 202mph :)
> |
> | You really should keep your distance from the car ahead when you draft
in
> | GPL, 2 car lengths minimum.

smogbik

Le Mans Top Speed?

by smogbik » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 22:54:20

Hoi hoi Steve,


tall a final gear ... for Vmax, it is ESSENTIAL to match the peak of yr power
curve (HP, not torque) to yr final gear ... if yr engine is even 300 or 400 RPM
away from it's optimum, the effect will be quite noticeable.

BTW- lazy sod that I am, I've only tried Sarthe w/BrabHonda mongrel ... top
speed 207mph unassisted  8>)

Yr vriend in the aether,
smogbike


> So?  I've only gotten 202 mph out of the Eagle on hard (22 psi) tires w. a
> 3.38 rear.  What am I doing wrong?

> If GPLers are turning 3:15s, vs. only 3:28s for the 7-liter Fords with their

> --Steve

ymenar

Le Mans Top Speed?

by ymenar » Sun, 03 Jun 2001 01:55:03


> Ooops sorry Fran?ois, If everyone is talking about runing down the
> straight via multi-car, I was not.. My top end of 202mph is all alone
> with the Eagle default setup.... I'd still like to know what setups will
> be good for here! 'i.e a Spa, Monza etc with gear changes & other
> changes in the setup!  Tia.. Thom_j.

OH!  Well I should had known, that Cooper is SO slow there :)

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Thom j

Le Mans Top Speed?

by Thom j » Sun, 03 Jun 2001 04:59:56

Todd, What are you considering the so called "sweet spot"?? Is
this the default setting? I went to Vroc early this morning and all
are racing Sarthe and most told me the default is the best!! I am
curious if the entire setup is ok? 'i.e. damper, springs, steer lock
etc...Comments? Suggestions? Ideas?
Tia.. Thom_j.

| I was playing around with my setup at LM last night in the Lotus
| trying to see how much speed I could get out of it. There seems to be
| a sweet spot in the gear ratios that will get you just what you need.
| If you choose one click higher (for more acceleration) you will max
| out the motor before you get to top speed (a very bad idea with the
| Lotus.) Doing that gave me a top speed of 195 at redline (just over
| 9300rpm.) Come down a click from the optimum (for more top speed) and
| the car hits the wall of aerodynamic drag where it doesn't have enough
| power to push it any faster through the air and you end up maxing out
| well below redline (about 8700 and 196 or so.) At the sweet spot, I
| hit 198-200 depending on fuel load at around 9100rpm or so.
|
| Again, the physics in GPL never cease to amaze me...
|
| Todd Walker

Gary Stephenso

Le Mans Top Speed?

by Gary Stephenso » Sun, 03 Jun 2001 14:12:10


> BTW- lazy sod that I am, I've only tried Sarthe w/BrabHonda mongrel ... top
> speed 207mph unassisted  8>)

I just ran a few laps using the Brabham/Ford and one of Allison's x-file
set-ups from Spa. I'm hitting 205 and the motor is still about 500 RPM's
short of redline. Fastest lap was 3:28 after about a dozen laps. By the
way, I do not submit engine swapper times to GPL-Rank (my handicap
should be proof enough, look for G-Man), nor do I use engine swapper
when running VROC. I don't know if anybody cares about that stuff
anymore, but just in case.

Gary

Alan Orto

Le Mans Top Speed?

by Alan Orto » Sun, 03 Jun 2001 17:09:53

You could try to running really high camber settings to reduce rolling
resistance. It works on the ovals.


> Nor I.  No drafting.  Just Vmax tips...anybody?

> --Steve



> > Ooops sorry Fran?ois, If everyone is talking about runing down the
> > straight via multi-car, I was not.. My top end of 202mph is all alone
> > with the Eagle default setup.... I'd still like to know what setups will
> > be good for here! 'i.e a Spa, Monza etc with gear changes & other
> > changes in the setup!  Tia.. Thom_j.


> > | How far do you draft with the person ahead?  Heck with a slow-arse
> cooper
> > I
> > | was able to go at 202mph :)
> > |
> > | You really should keep your distance from the car ahead when you draft
> in
> > | GPL, 2 car lengths minimum.

Ron Ayto

Le Mans Top Speed?

by Ron Ayto » Sun, 03 Jun 2001 22:07:45

Trouble is you need mucho lateral grip at Le-Mans too Alan,  you trying
to get these guys killed or something ?  <G>

Cheers,
Ron



> You could try to running really high camber settings to reduce
rolling
> resistance. It works on the ovals.



> > Nor I.  No drafting.  Just Vmax tips...anybody?

> > --Steve



> > > Ooops sorry Fran?ois, If everyone is talking about runing down
the
> > > straight via multi-car, I was not.. My top end of 202mph is all
alone
> > > with the Eagle default setup.... I'd still like to know what
setups will
> > > be good for here! 'i.e a Spa, Monza etc with gear changes & other
> > > changes in the setup!  Tia.. Thom_j.


> > > | How far do you draft with the person ahead?  Heck with a
slow-arse
> > cooper
> > > I
> > > | was able to go at 202mph :)
> > > |
> > > | You really should keep your distance from the car ahead when
you draft
> > in
> > > | GPL, 2 car lengths minimum.

Don Scurlo

Le Mans Top Speed?

by Don Scurlo » Sun, 03 Jun 2001 23:19:49




>> BTW- lazy sod that I am, I've only tried Sarthe w/BrabHonda
>> mongrel ... top speed 207mph unassisted  8>)

>I just ran a few laps using the Brabham/Ford and one of Allison's x
>-file set-ups from Spa. I'm hitting 205 and the motor is still about
>500 RPM's short of redline. Fastest lap was 3:28 after about a dozen
>laps. By the way, I do not submit engine swapper times to GPL-Rank
>(my handicap should be proof enough, look for G-Man), nor do I use
>engine swapper when running VROC. I don't know if anybody cares
>about that stuff anymore, but just in case.

>Gary

Yes we do care. Thanks for mentioning it Gary.

--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.

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MonsterRank 114.29

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http://gplrank.ringlord.com/

Alan Orto

Le Mans Top Speed?

by Alan Orto » Mon, 04 Jun 2001 05:46:51

LOL, Ron. Well they were asking for more top speed. :)

How is Le Mans, haven't tried it.


> Trouble is you need mucho lateral grip at Le-Mans too Alan,  you trying
> to get these guys killed or something ?  <G>

> Cheers,
> Ron



> > You could try to running really high camber settings to reduce
> rolling
> > resistance. It works on the ovals.



> > > Nor I.  No drafting.  Just Vmax tips...anybody?

> > > --Steve



> > > > Ooops sorry Fran?ois, If everyone is talking about runing down
> the
> > > > straight via multi-car, I was not.. My top end of 202mph is all
> alone
> > > > with the Eagle default setup.... I'd still like to know what
> setups will
> > > > be good for here! 'i.e a Spa, Monza etc with gear changes & other
> > > > changes in the setup!  Tia.. Thom_j.


> > > > | How far do you draft with the person ahead?  Heck with a
> slow-arse
> > > cooper
> > > > I
> > > > | was able to go at 202mph :)
> > > > |
> > > > | You really should keep your distance from the car ahead when
> you draft
> > > in
> > > > | GPL, 2 car lengths minimum.


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