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by KJ » Fri, 09 Nov 2001 15:13:01

Just curious if anyone is using Racer with Linux and what kind of
setup they have. I play most of my games in MSWin right now. Does
anyone have a AL USB shifter plus racing wheel working in Linux? My
MS Wheel is detected just like a regular joystick and it works. I
plan on getting a shifter and I assume it should work too. But does
the Linux version of Racer support joysticks? I've never tried it.

by **Ryan** » Fri, 09 Nov 2001 17:11:29

I'll be interested in this too . . .

Who's up for starting a site / group / list for Linux racing sims ?

Maybe a lobby group for porting existing sims . . . OK, maybe that's a bit
of a joke at the moment, but if Linux gains more penetration . . .

Ryan

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by **Ryan** » Fri, 09 Nov 2001 17:15:43

Also, does anyone know if there are any open-source sim projects in
SourceForge or accessible via CVS?

Ryan

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by KJ » Fri, 09 Nov 2001 18:22:09

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:11:29 +0200, "Ryan"

>I'll be interested in this too . . .

>Who's up for starting a site / group / list for Linux racing sims ?

>Maybe a lobby group for porting existing sims . . . OK, maybe that's a bit
>of a joke at the moment, but if Linux gains more penetration . . .

>Ryan

I think asking for ports would be a bit too much. But we can
dream.... I heard there were a few games that work with WINE. Like
Sega Rally Champ. Is SRC any good? I wouldn't mind picking it up so
I can play it on my linux box.

Maybe WINE is the answer. Trans***.com is doing something with
WINE. Right now I only know of Racer for Linux. I too, would like to
know if there are others.

by KJ » Fri, 09 Nov 2001 18:33:30

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:15:43 +0200, "Ryan"

>Also, does anyone know if there are any open-source sim projects in
>SourceForge or accessible via CVS?

>Ryan

Check these out, I just found them on freshmeat.net

http://spaceracer.sourceforge.net/
http://torcs.free.fr

by **Ruud van Ga** » Fri, 09 Nov 2001 20:55:18

>Just curious if anyone is using Racer with Linux and what kind of
>setup they have. I play most of my games in MSWin right now. Does
>anyone have a AL USB shifter plus racing wheel working in Linux? My
>MS Wheel is detected just like a regular joystick and it works. I
>plan on getting a shifter and I assume it should work too. But does
>the Linux version of Racer support joysticks? I've never tried it.

You mean if it supports Shifters? Not yet, on Windows it will but I
don't know if the driver on Linux will allow all these buttons (it
goes up to 20 I believe and the remaining shifter directions are done
by emulating the POV thingy).

Too bad that wheel support is still not up to par with Windows.
Probably though, ActLabs seems a relatively small company which
listens to its customers. Requesting Linux drivers there may be
listened to. That would get us FF and Shifter support in the future on
Linux as well, making Racer+ActLabs wheels a good combination for some
simmy racing on Linux. Nice monopoly. ;-)

Ruud van Gaal
Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/
Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

by **Paul de Bru** » Fri, 09 Nov 2001 21:33:28

Take a look at the 2.4.14 kernel source in
Documentation/input/ff.txt. It would appear that I-Force devices
are (albeit minimally) supported.

Time permitting, I will look into it this weekend and see whether
my Guillemot wheel can be coerced into functioning under Linux.

Paul

by **Ruud van Ga** » Fri, 09 Nov 2001 22:51:19

>> Too bad that wheel support is still not up to par with Windows.
>> Probably though, ActLabs seems a relatively small company which
>> listens to its customers. Requesting Linux drivers there may be
>> listened to. That would get us FF and Shifter support in the future on
>> Linux as well, making Racer+ActLabs wheels a good combination for some
>> simmy racing on Linux. Nice monopoly. ;-)

>Take a look at the 2.4.14 kernel source in
>Documentation/input/ff.txt. It would appear that I-Force devices
>are (albeit minimally) supported.

That sounds promising!

Good luck with that. Adding FF output for Racer on Linux shouldn't be
that hard if you're a programmer and have the source. It's all there
for Windows already after all (and generally the Linux interfaces are
5x as easy to understand as MS ones).

Ruud van Gaal
Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/
Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

by **Paul de Bru** » Fri, 09 Nov 2001 23:35:22

Indeed. Linux is moving forward. Apparently, the new input
drivers make it easy to add/detect/use USB HID devices. I have to
dive into the code anyway to see why my Logitech Wingman
Precision USB is not working with linux (need my slapfight fix
with MAME).

Agreed on that last comment. As I said, time permitting, but it
is tempting to dive into the source :-)

Paul

by **Ryan** » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 00:46:37

Hey Ryan,
One of us should change our posting name so that we don't get ourselves
confused......

Ryan K

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by **Ruud van Ga** » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 02:12:55

>> >Take a look at the 2.4.14 kernel source in
>> >Documentation/input/ff.txt. It would appear that I-Force devices
>> >are (albeit minimally) supported.

>> That sounds promising!

>Indeed. Linux is moving forward. Apparently, the new input
>drivers make it easy to add/detect/use USB HID devices. I have to
>dive into the code anyway to see why my Logitech Wingman
>Precision USB is not working with linux (need my slapfight fix
>with MAME).

Well, good luck with that. The drivers source code from the Linux I
have here are more like magic timing black boxes. :)

There's just qdxjoy.cpp to dig through I think. Notice while in that
file the difference between the MS and Linux code! ;-)
About 20:1 I'd say, in size.

Ruud van Gaal
Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/
Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

by **Ruud van Ga** » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 02:13:20

Who said that? Ryan? Is that you? Ryan?

>Ryan K

>> Also, does anyone know if there are any open-source sim projects in
>> SourceForge or accessible via CVS?

>> Ryan

Ruud van Gaal
Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/
Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

by KJ » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 03:38:53

>You mean if it supports Shifters? Not yet, on Windows it will but I
>don't know if the driver on Linux will allow all these buttons (it
>goes up to 20 I believe and the remaining shifter directions are done
>by emulating the POV thingy).

My MS Non-FF Wheel gets picked as an HID device and all the
axis'/buttons are detected. I used jstest to test it out and it
appears to be working. I haven't tested it with a game though. The
Shifter should be picked up just as easily, I think. Just don't know
if games on the Linux end can handle 2 devices as input at the same
time.

One day...

by **Ruud van Ga** » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:47:04

>>You mean if it supports Shifters? Not yet, on Windows it will but I
>>don't know if the driver on Linux will allow all these buttons (it
>>goes up to 20 I believe and the remaining shifter directions are done
>>by emulating the POV thingy).

>My MS Non-FF Wheel gets picked as an HID device and all the
>axis'/buttons are detected. I used jstest to test it out and it
>appears to be working. I haven't tested it with a game though. The
>Shifter should be picked up just as easily, I think. Just don't know
>if games on the Linux end can handle 2 devices as input at the same
>time.

As long as you have 2 input ports then Racer won't have any problems
with that. If it does, then it's a bug. ;-)

Have no trouble mixing my MSFF and ForceRS wheels and pedals on the
PC. Though I haven't invested the time yet to get that shifter
working.

Ruud van Gaal
Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/
Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

by **Ryan** » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 21:04:15

Oh dear, here I go talking to myself again . . . ;-)

Done!

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