rec.autos.simulators

News reporting is VERY subjective and mostly propaganda.
If that is what you are basing your views on know wonder we are in this sad
state.

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

"At this moment, I am proud to be an American."  <-- your 2 dumb to know
otherwise,  A real american would be outraged.

any-cause-hangers-on

What is a "real" American? Someone who thinks like you? And why would a
real American be outraged that the Iraqi people are glad to see us
there? You know, all of you liberals who oppose the war should be made
to live under Hussein's rule for a year or so, then see how you feel
about a nation that is willing to come in and release you from his grip.
Our primary objective is to protect Americans, as it should be. But a
secondary reality is that we are protecting the Iraqis from this madman
who has been killing his own people for years. How DARE you oppose this
war when you haven't been forced to live under his oppressive rule? If
you were face to face with a mother who's children had been killed by
Hussein, or a father who's wife and kids had been killed, would you tell
them that you oppose the current military action in their country and
that the American military is wrong for what it is doing?

You know the problem with the US and other "developed" countries? We've
got it too good. We can't relate to the Iraqi people because we have
never been forced to live under the circumstances that Hussein forces
them to live under, so people like you sit on your high and lofty perch,
typing away on your computer, inside your comfortably climate controlled
home, while your dinner simmers on the stove, and tell everyone what a
bad idea this war is, without any consideration whatsoever for the final
outcome, which will be a better life for the people of Iraq.

I thought liberals were supposed to be the compassionate ones? Or is
that not allowed when it is a conservative government being
compassionate?

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Fester

Elevators smell different to midgets

Unfortunately the real world isn't quite as simple as your fantasy
world. It is unfortunate that innocent lives are lost to defeat tyrrany,
but that's the way it is -- the world isn't a perfect place. What about
the 3,000 innocent Americans who were killed on 9/11? Saddam Hussein has
the materials necessary to make 9/11 look like a day at the park and the
hatred for America to carry it out. It has been shown that Al Queda and
Hussein are significantly linked, so the issue here is saving the lives
of innocent people in the US and the rest of the world (other countries
aren't immune to terrorism by radicals.)

And what about the innocent Iraqi people who are killed by Hussein
himself? The anti-war crowd seems determined to ignore that facet. I
guarantee you, many fewer innocent Iraqis will be killed during this
conflict than can be attributed directly to Hussein's genocide.

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Todd Walker
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
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You honestly think your govt didn't, at best, allow it to happen?  Or at
worst, played a hand in it?  Think I prefer *your* fantasy world.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/govknow.html

Really?  It was never shown before the war started.  And to date, 10
facilities that were on the US "urgent list" of sites has turned up nothing.

Beyond our un-based assertions?  Hard-core Arab extremists find Saddam a
tool & puppet of the west & view him with contempt.  Real link there.
Get away from the US media once in a while & see what the other nations
are reporting.  It's an eye opener.

Want to stop terrorism?  Stop messing around in other people's
countries!  No faster way to make enemies than to poke your nose in
where it don't belong.

Your ilke seem unable to comprehend that you can be both anti-Saddam
*and* anti-war!  He's no sweetheart for sure.  But who the hell are we
to overthrow another govt?  And all based on false evidence!  If that's
the case, don't get in a huff when someone opposed to how we do business
here decides to take out our leaders.  What's good for the goose is good
for the gander.  We're setting precedents here, baby.

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Fester

Elevators smell different to midgets

Gathered first hand no doubt. Be careful whose propaganda you believe

They are very compassionate people.  They love to race bait, and to foster
class wars.  They are compassionate about making sure those who they are
protecting never get enough to be able to protect themselves.  They are
compassionate about those who they feed never get to a point where they can
feed themselves.  They are compassionate about making sure they stay in
power by any means possible.

Dave

Dave

Like I told the other guy, anti-war != pro-Saddam.

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Fester

Elevators smell different to midgets

Don't you see their reactions in the streets all over the world?
Well.......maybe you don't if all you watch is the U.S. media.

Americans are never wrong. We don't know much about anything, but that
doesn't mean we are ever wrong.

David G Fisher (waving his American flag)

http://www.racesimcentral.net/
820_296d1dxf44c233c3axw1c85&rdm=5347655#

Where it says "Watch More War Stories", click on next until the "Civilians
Killed" video is displayed. If you pass your mouse over it it will say
"Civilians Killed...Casualties In Streets Of Hilla"

Great video of Georgie's "liberation" in full glory. ***y, dead child
lying on the ground. Don't miss the ***y, dead body of the child (no more
than two or three) taken out of the back of the pickup truck (loaded with
***y, dead bodies of innocent civilians) and shown to the camera by the
Iraqis who are so happy and thrilled to have the U.S. committing thousand of
terrorist attacks against them over the past 12 days.

David G Fisher (waving his American flag)

P.S. Funny how I don't see this type of video on American news broadcasts
(the rest of the world sees it all day, every day). Almost seems criminal
that it's intentionally kept from us, doesn't it?

http://www.nationnews.com/StoryView.cfm?Record=36030&Section=LO&Curre...

"Within the next few days, the United States plans to ask Barbados and
its Caricom neighbours to help block any attempt to haul Washington
before the United Nations (UN) Human Rights Tribunal to answer charges
of abuses in Iraq...."

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Fester

Elevators smell different to midgets

No, it hasn't. It has not been shown, unless you can prove me wrong.

I'm not saying I'm for or against war, but the facts need to be there
and clear to see, and with that particular issue they are not.