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Wheel Comparisons

Bert

Wheel Comparisons

by Bert » Sun, 17 May 1998 04:00:00

This has probably already been discussed to death here, but I'd
appreciate any comments:

Awhile back, I saw some messages regarding a wheel and pedals combo,
which was a bit pricier that my Nascar Pro Wheel.  The website for the
manufacturer was also posted.

Although I'm happy with my set up, I would like to know what advantage
there is to using one of the "better" wheels.

Also, how does it connect to the physical desktop, and what software
drivers are used?  I'm using the generic Win95 Joystick driver for my
Nascar wheel, because it makes it a lot easier for me to switch between
it and my gamepad and joystick.  ( I don't really see any advantage in
using the Nascar Wheel's native drivers.)

So any comments/ info on this would be greatly appreciated.

Laurence Lindstro

Wheel Comparisons

by Laurence Lindstro » Wed, 20 May 1998 04:00:00

             < Snip >

   I Love my ECCI CDS2

   I upgraded from an old T1.  I thought the big advantage would
be the wheel mounted buttons.  But everything, from the pedals to
the suede, suade, uh..., fuzzy leather wheel cover, is just nice.  
I could only describe it as feeling that is much more precise.  

   The thing is just sweet.  The mechanism is precise and
adjustable for spring tension and wheel travel.  It is expensive,
but I'm very satisfied.  

   I recently played with a TM NASCAR wheel in a computer store,
not plugged into anything, and just smiled.  I wouldn't want to
go back to something like that.  

   The wheel is heavy, and claims are made that it won't move.  
This is not true under my spastic driving style, and I have
placed velcro under it's two wide feet to offer just a little
more grip.  This works fine for me.  

   Electrically, I think this is like a TM wheel.  I set mine as
described in the owner's manual, but I think it can be treated
as a 2 axis 4 button stick.  

   This sounds like it would work.  However, you will have to
recal between games.  When you do that I would also check the
"rudders" to off.  No reason having the sim waste time reading
an unused analog value.  

   Some ECCI wheels have clutches, and the ability to place
the pedals on separate axis.  These, of course, might require
a different software setup.  

   Many people also like the TSW wheel.  

   The shift buttons on the front of the ECCI do tend to force
your hands into a "9 and 3" position, which I find comfortable.  
The levers on the back of a TSW might offer more choices in how
you grip the wheel.  

   Feel free to e-mail if you have any other questions.  

                                                         Larry

Bill Pogu

Wheel Comparisons

by Bill Pogu » Wed, 20 May 1998 04:00:00


I've recently started using a TSW Formula wheel after having used a
Thrustmaster GP1. I dare say this wheel is awesome! It's heavy so it
doesn't move easily... I don't put a lot of pressure on the wheels
anyway, but if I did, it would take a bit to move this wheel. The pedal
assembly is also very heavy. The frames of these components are metal,
not plastic like my GP1. I've found that my times are getting better at
almost every track with the new wheel. The sensitivity of the steering is
so much better compared to what I was used to. I have found that my tire
wear is MUCH MUCH better with this wheel. That in turn has allowed me to
gain a bit more consistency which also provides me a decent improvement
overall.

The wheel has buttons that I can use as whatever I want, plus the
shifter, plus a set of shift paddels. I can shift either with buttons,
the paddels, or the regular shifter. It's a very unique setup and works
extremely well for me (I like the paddels). There's also the option to
add a clutch assembly to this device as well as numerous other features.

All in all, the Thomas Enterprises TSW Formula is an awesome wheel!

http://soli.inav.net/~thomas

bill


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