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F**k! N3 AI is really getting on my freakin nerves here!

Morga

F**k! N3 AI is really getting on my freakin nerves here!

by Morga » Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:00:00

When you're as irritated as I was after experiencing that for the ??***th time
and having every bit of concentration thrown out the window because of some
stupid bug that should've been fixed years ago you sometimes feel the need to
just scream (scream to myself then scream at the newsgroup). So, you're right.
But I'm not saying it won't happen again 'cause it will. If not by me, then by
someone else.



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Michael Blood Lo

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by Michael Blood Lo » Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:00:00

What really gets on my nerves is the thinly vailed cursing.  My son reads this
newsgroup with me and it just burns me that someone feels the NEED to express
himself this way.  I am 6'3", weigh 280 and work in construction.  Trust me,
with the exception of some veteran sailors, I can cuss with the best of them.
But one of the measures of any man, is the where and the when.  When you come
to this newsgroup, it is like walking into a friends home, a home you enjoy
visiting, a place where the discussion is stimulating and a joy to be involved.
 But it is a home with children.  You should take care in what you say.
Just my $0.02
Michael Loos
Chicago USA
Daxe Rexfor

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by Daxe Rexfor » Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:00:00


If your son doesn't know those words, then he isn't going to recognize them,
veiled or not.  If he does know them, then what are you trying to shield him
from?  Either way, he didn't learn the words from the people in this
newsgroup, did he?

I'm a big guy, too, and I was taught that people swear when they are too
uneducated to use any other words.  I don't have to worry about where I
swear because I just don't swear.  I don't care if other people do because
they are just words and they don't hurt anyone.

No.  This is a public place.  It's not like anyone's private home, it's like
a bus station or a shopping mall or a city sidewalk.  When you are in
public, you sometimes are exposed to things you don't like, but that's the
price of sharing that public place with other people.

I am a parent, too, and I feel strongly about protecting my daughter from
things in the world that are not appropriate for her age and developmental
level. What I realize, however, is that her protection is my responsibility
and I don't expect the world to police itself for my child's benefit.

And mine makes it $0.04.  My best to you and your son.

~daxe

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Michael Blood Lo

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by Michael Blood Lo » Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:00:00

daxe said
a bus station or a shopping mall or a city sidewalk.  When you are in
public, you sometimes are exposed to things you don't like, but that's the
price of sharing that public place with other people.>>

Daxe, I believe you missed my point.  Your right, this is a public place, but
if I am sitting in a restaurant with my daughter or my wife, and some idiot
lets loose with those words while sitting at the next table, then he will hear
from me personally.  My point was this...
There is a time and a place for everything.  If you choose to believe that in
public, mixed company, or because you just dont feel like policeing yourself,
its alright to cuss, then go ahead.  But, I, for one, don't figure you to much
of a gentleman.  It shows that you arent mature enough to have a little
paitence.

Mike
Hey life is nothing but an adventure

Daxe Rexfor

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by Daxe Rexfor » Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:00:00


It is certainly not very gentlemanly to speak that way in mixed company.  I
agree.  There is a lot of common decency and respect missing from the world
these days.

~daxe

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Greg Cisk

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by Greg Cisk » Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Not only that, but... ISP agreements include some fineprint which states
that by connecting to the internet you agree that you knowingly may be
subject to some "bad" things like swearing and nudity. If you do not
agree with this, then don't connect. It really doesn't matter how big
you are or how much you weigh :-)

So you want little children on the internet??? Be prepared and make
proper arrangements.

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> > What really gets on my nerves is the thinly vailed cursing.  My son
reads
> this
> > newsgroup with me and it just burns me that someone feels the NEED to
express
> > himself this way.  I am 6'3", weigh 280 and work in construction.  Trust
me,
> > with the exception of some veteran sailors, I can cuss with the best of
them.
> > But one of the measures of any man, is the where and the when.  When you
come
> > to this newsgroup, it is like walking into a friends home, a home you
enjoy
> > visiting, a place where the discussion is stimulating and a joy to be
> involved.
> >  But it is a home with children.  You should take care in what you say.
> > Just my $0.02
> > Michael Loos
> > Chicago USA

> --
> -----------------------------------
> Morgan Vincent Wooten

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/~morganv/
> -----------------------------------

Morga

F**k! N3 AI is really getting on my freakin nerves here!

by Morga » Sun, 28 Nov 1999 04:00:00

You idiot! You can't drive! Leave the group at once! Or so they like to tell me
because I occasionally tap another car! :)

I'm particularly aware of this at Darlington. That's my favorite oval, but it's
SO easy to catch the wall and loose all of your concentration in that instant
that I'm almost scared to even enter the track anymore!


Doug Bishop Jackson Mi

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by Doug Bishop Jackson Mi » Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:00:00

I've had this happen a few time and  my 4 YEAR OLD Grandson seems to be able to
recreate this phenom at will....but then he drives around  clockwise and takes
out the whole field with 150 MPH head on's (come on admit it so has everyone in
here once in a while).  I have another beef though.  How come it's so dog gone
hard to disconnect from the wall? Seems that on most tracks if you drift into
the wall in a turn you're stuck there till you get down to about 25MPH.  We've
all heard Benny P. say what a great job a driver did keeping his car against
the wall and out of traffic when it hit.  Obviously he never tried N3 cause
it's not driving skill it's just another bug.

OK so now flame me for hitting the wall in the first place.....

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You think in the storm we've found the eye of the calm.....Bill Mallonnee,
Vigilantes Of Love

SJames

F**k! N3 AI is really getting on my freakin nerves here!

by SJames » Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:00:00

there till you get down to about 25MPH.

That one is good for dropping instantly to the back of the field, plus
incurring damage, plus getting going again in 1st gear while the leaders are
now roaring up your rear end.  One of my favorites, to be sure.....
Darlington's turn 3 &4 are a prime spot for this.

Michael Blood Lo

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by Michael Blood Lo » Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Daxe wrote
It is certainly not very gentlemanly to speak that way in mixed company.  I
agree.  There is a lot of common decency and respect missing from the world
these days.>>

That's all I was trying to say.
Thanks
Mike

Peter Ive

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by Peter Ive » Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:00:00



I understand that you want to protect your child as best you can, but
from what are you trying to protect him.  The world we live in is made
up of this kind of thing and that doesn't mean that it is a "bad" place
because of it.  Swearing per se, does not go hand in hand with being
bad.  I do swear quite a bit for instance when playing games and am
getting frustrated - a spur of the moment thing - though I do personally
try to refrain from swearing in NGs.  But that's just me.  Though I have
done on the odd occasion.

Obviously if your child is under 10 then I can see that you don't want
him picking up words at such an early age, though I would be surprised
if he would find the likes of r.a.s that interesting so young.  If he is
over 10 then chances are he already knows several of these words anyway.
You may say that isn't the point, but in that case what are you trying
to protect your son from.  You say that you swear at work with the best
of them, so that would indicate that you don't mind swearing.  So why
are you trying to protect your son from this kind of thing?  Or do you
actually have some kind of guilty conscience about swearing.  If so,
then you really need to look into it.

We live in a world of double standards where in one situation things are
acceptable and then in another situation they are not.  For instance, go
to a sporting event and you can expect to hear all kinds of swear words.
Even at a bar with friends this is not frowned upon, but then go to
church and everyone has to behave as if they are whiter than white and
that butter wouldn't melt in their mouths.  So people spend their lives
being one kind or person in one situation and then another kind of
person in the next situation.  How dishonest is that?  It's as if we're
trying to hide the real us behind all these different personas.  

It is better that you prepare your son as best you can for the rigours
of the *** world as soon as you can.  It's a tough world out there and
the sooner your child realises this then the better it will make him
able to cope with it.  Being sensitive about swear words doesn't make
you a better person or a saint, it just makes you overly sensitive.
--
Peter Ives
(AKA Ivington)

Daxe Rexfor

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by Daxe Rexfor » Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:00:00


> Being sensitive about swear words doesn't make
>you a better person or a saint, it just makes you overly sensitive.

Very nice discourse, Peter.  Bravo.

~daxe

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Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Amen to that, Michael.

I was brought up in an era when (a) to use *** or offensive language in
public was a no-no and (b) to use certain words in mixed company was
certainly not acceptable.
Therefore, when one was in a situation when one really needed to let loose
(dropping the crow-bar on the foot; hitting the thumb with the hammer;
unable to get the nut on the bolt after trying for two hours), those words
were just the most wonderful way of releasing the hurt and frustration!
But we didn't (and I still don't) use them in general conversation nor as
replacements for commas, full-stops, exclamation marks etc.

Then the 1990s came along and the "F" word has now become what appears to me
to be just another word.....or so society would have us believe. Perhaps
those born in the late 1970s & the 1980s have very limited vocabularies and
the "F" word is now used as a replacement for adjectives, adverbs and
punctuation!

To me this is a sad and sorry state of affairs because it has effectively
removed what was a great obscenity for use on that special occasion.
I still cringe inwardly when I hear it being used in mixed company or when I
hear women use it. Does it make them feel "equal" or what?  No doubt the "C"
word will be the next one removed from the "offensive language" list and
then we won't have any special swear-words at all.

What am I going to yell when I next drop a brick on my foot........"Oh
bummer"?

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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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Eldre

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by Eldre » Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Actually, I've discovered that the spotter's warning 'Slow car down low' when
nearing Pit In is a good indicator...

Eldred
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