N4, Winning and Courtesy

by **Thom j** » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 07:14:04

Hang in there Marty I got a million of dem'...hahaha

| I'm loving this thread.
| I'd like to make a proposal to all here who believe racing should be about
| trying to pass your competetor not skewer him.
| When this subject comes up, like it frequently does, in chat after a
| race....speak up. Explain, persuade, argue, that motorsports should not a
| gladiator sport. There is professional wrestling for that.
| I enough us are will to engage the jerks in chat they will eventually get
it
| or just go away.
| Peer pressure can be very effective.
| Marty
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by **Thom j** » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 07:49:37

I think also once you are muzzled or ejected no matter what nick name
you use you are still muzzled or ejected. Within N4 online Sierra grabs
your IP address & uses this, not you nickname. I like this!! :o) Also of
course you can have more then one IP address but eventually you will
run out of them if you are a constant wrecker or just a pure pain in the
azz! <g>
[At least this is the way it was explained to me..eeeeck]

| I think they did that so you know exactly what name to use to muzzle
| someone if they cause trouble during a race. Since they're probably
| not going to be in the lobby waiting for people to select and muzzle
| them, the only alternative is to manually add a name to your muzzle
| list.
| ___________________________
| Kyle Langston

by **Eldre** » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:43:01

writes:

So you're supposed to just pull over and let the other guy go by? If you're
being lapped - sure. If you're racing for position, it's HIS job to find a way
around you safely...

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:43:02

>You've just define the basic difference between circle track and road racing.

>Marty

>> I've seen this in league rules before for N3, and I disagree. The
>problem(as I
>> understand it) is that if the cars are equal, it's almost *impossible* to
>pass
>> on the high line. Even if the the following car is a little better, you
>have
>> the same problem. So, if one driver jumps to the front, grabs the low
>line,
>> and STAYS there, he's guaranteed a win.

We're talking N4. In the real world, the oval racing normally has more
passes...<g>

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:43:02

>Eldred this will be one of the rare times I'll disagree with ya. Putting
>1000s of laps in 'Wacky!' N3 and N4 you can pass on the outside!
>Is it easy? Well depends on the track, car setup & knowing how to
>slip'stream via the outside as verses inside.{speaking more of SSs}
>Also remember when a single or a group of cars come from behind
>they can draft like hell' on a staright & come unto the person in first
>a good 10-15mph faster then the guy in first! With this in mind they
>can go by him on the outside turns if their setup correctly! I've seen
>it and had it done to me 100s of times!! I never backed off the gas
>one millimeter either...<G> This can is also true with Fixed Setups.
>It is all in the way you approach position one and how much draft
>you've picked up!! No more, no less.. imho & my $0.02...

Well, my post said "as I understand it"... I'm sure it IS possible to pass.
I've just never been able to do it...

Eldred
--
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by **Uncle Feste** » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:27:24

> Eldred this will be one of the rare times I'll disagree with ya. Putting
> 1000s of laps in 'Wacky!' N3 and N4 you can pass on the outside!

Absolutely! I passed on the outside line thru T3-4 at Daytona last
night on the last lap to take a 2nd place finish. Can definitely be
done.

--

Fester

by **Thom j** » Fri, 01 Jun 2001 13:59:26

OkeeDoeKee!! I wasnt trying to split hairs E..lol Sorry bout dat!!

| Well, my post said "as I understand it"... I'm sure it IS possible to
pass.
| I've just never been able to do it...
| Eldred

by **Phaso** » Sat, 02 Jun 2001 12:21:44

Ooops - no wonder it didn't make much sense to me!

Profuse apologies.

-Phasor

> >Ah, but modesty (AKA sharking) will get you everywhere. :)

> >You sound like a real nice guy Eldred, unfortunately you're the only one
who
> >disagrees with my post. :)

> >Thanks for the replies.

> Uh, I *agreed* with you. I just said that I've seen league rules that say
> running the bottom line is 'blocking'. Since I thought the object was to
WIN,
> if you can get there, and hold the line, go for it! Read my response
again - I
> don't know how you interpreted that to mean I disagree with what you
> said...<shrug>

> Eldred
> --
> Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> F1 hcp. +24.63...F2 +151.26...

> Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...
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