> For instance, how come that I feel I am
> the only one who race with a full name and not some stupid nick. In
> GPL I know who I race, in N4 it could be anyone on this ng without
> even knowing it.
-Gregor
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> ...-.-
Believe me, you DO want to find a copy of GPL.. I tried N4 online for
a couple of weeks, but the pickup races were a total nightmare, seems
like 90% of the N4 crowd are children and mentally less-gifted
people..
I'm sure glad to be back on VROC :)
Andre
| and mentally less-gifted people..
| I'm sure glad to be back on VROC :)
| Andre
Marty
Just like in 'real' racing, this guy needs some 'counciling' from his
competitors.
Marty
> I asked this question on Joshua's N4 newsgroup back when N4 was released.
> 100% of replies were a resounding 'Yes, you are completely within your
> rights'. I just want to check to see if anything has changed.
> Last night I was in a Talladega race with some pretty good drivers, good
> enough to go 3 wide into a turn and keep it together. After some great
> racing I grabbed the early lead by passing on the outside.
> As the leader of the race, I feel that I am entitled to take whatever damn
> line I please, as long as I don't block or cause crashes. I like to take
> the low line and stay low in the straights, which is what I did, right from
> the beginning. One other guy, the host, was racing with me. He tried a few
> times to pass on the outside, which failed, but he did get inside me 2 or 3
> times and I let him take the lead, no problem. Each time, I took it back
> quite quickly. I probably had a slightly stronger car.
> 2 laps from the end, he deliberately crashes us both. (He didn't deny this).
> I hadn't even begun blocking yet. As you can imagine, I was pissed, after
> having such a good race with some good drivers. Apparently, he crashed me
> because he was frustrated that from lap 1 I didn't just give up the inside
> line on a sliver platter for him, and he couldn't pass me on the outside.
> He called this 'blocking'. This certainly doesn't fall within my
> understanding of the term - I kept the low, inside line all the way around
> the track and he had no problem pulling up beside me on the outside line
> several times. I've had this done to me in a few races myself and I have no
> problem with it.
> Am I within my rights? Or has a new N4 'gentleman's agreement' been decided
> on, unbeknownst to me, that decrees that even if I am the leader of the
> race, I immediately have to go to the outside as soon as somebody faster
> drafts up behind me? What's the call on this in league play? (I was playing
> on the public servers). It sure sounds like I'll just have to hand the lead
> over to whomever wants it or get crashed for being a poor sport.
> Thanks,
> -Phasor
I'd like to make a proposal to all here who believe racing should be about
trying to pass your competetor not skewer him.
When this subject comes up, like it frequently does, in chat after a
race....speak up. Explain, persuade, argue, that motorsports should not a
gladiator sport. There is professional wrestling for that.
I enough us are will to engage the jerks in chat they will eventually get it
or just go away.
Peer pressure can be very effective.
Marty
> | Even if all the wreckers and ignorants are taken away, i feel that the
> | N4 community is a lot more hostile than what the GPL community is,
> | even when that was a infant. For instance, how come that I feel I am
> | the only one who race with a full name and not some stupid nick. In
> | GPL I know who I race, in N4 it could be anyone on this ng without
> | even knowing it.
> |
> | And one tip Alex: Please reply after what is written in a post, not on
> | top since it makes a hell of a mess after a while.
> | --
> | Olav K. Malmin
Marty
> THE FINISH LINE!!
> Anyone who ***es about courtesy in racing can go to the stands and be
> courtious
> while passing nachos.
> It's called RACING for a reason!
> > Ur right Olav and the GPL community is completely different to N4.
> > Sadly I'm from the US and many of the idiots online in N4 make us
> > USA'ers look dumber then we really are!!! I understand why many
> > folks overseas dont want to bother with N4 as it seems like we are
> > all nutz in N4 but this is not the case.. Sadly we have too many tho'
> > | Even if all the wreckers and ignorants are taken away, i feel that the
> > | N4 community is a lot more hostile than what the GPL community is,
> > | even when that was a infant. For instance, how come that I feel I am
> > | the only one who race with a full name and not some stupid nick. In
> > | GPL I know who I race, in N4 it could be anyone on this ng without
> > | even knowing it.
> > |
> > | And one tip Alex: Please reply after what is written in a post, not on
> > | top since it makes a hell of a mess after a while.
> > | --
> > | Olav K. Malmin
>Says the guy who took about a second a lap out of his competitors at the
>Indy225. It's a scam folks. He's not as pathetic as he makes himself out to
>be. <vwg>
Eldred
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with experience...
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>You sound like a real nice guy Eldred, unfortunately you're the only one who
>disagrees with my post. :)
>Thanks for the replies.
Eldred
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Wayne
> Marty
> > One thing ...
> > THE FINISH LINE!!
> > Anyone who ***es about courtesy in racing can go to the stands and be
> > courtious
> > while passing nachos.
> > It's called RACING for a reason!
> > > Ur right Olav and the GPL community is completely different to N4.
> > > Sadly I'm from the US and many of the idiots online in N4 make us
> > > USA'ers look dumber then we really are!!! I understand why many
> > > folks overseas dont want to bother with N4 as it seems like we are
> > > all nutz in N4 but this is not the case.. Sadly we have too many tho'
> > > | Even if all the wreckers and ignorants are taken away, i feel that
the
> > > | N4 community is a lot more hostile than what the GPL community is,
> > > | even when that was a infant. For instance, how come that I feel I am
> > > | the only one who race with a full name and not some stupid nick. In
> > > | GPL I know who I race, in N4 it could be anyone on this ng without
> > > | even knowing it.
> > > |
> > > | And one tip Alex: Please reply after what is written in a post, not
on
> > > | top since it makes a hell of a mess after a while.
> > > | --
> > > | Olav K. Malmin
While I agree N4 seems to provide a breeding ground for redneck
misfits... with N4's quality, an awesome sound update, and a league of
some very good GPL drivers, I'm hooked.
An open Glen race last night showed how good it can be even with a jerk
who started in back but could turn laps as fast a the leader. The replay
showed he was very good but also showed less than a mature approach to
racing.
I was running very close to the guy ahead for several laps and I saw him
closing behind me. The guy ahead was missing the apex of T1 under
pressure and I was taking a wide entrance to T1 to try to pass low on the
exit when the guy behind comes in hot on the inside and passes both of us
at the apex. We both saw him coming and made room to prevent a wreak but
it was still a dumb move.
Few laps later he does it again trying to pass two cars in T10 but this
time he only cleared one car and body slammed the other into the kitty
litter.
I don't know if it was intentional or brain fade but the guy he passed
who saw him nail the car ahead of him went waaaaay too deep in T1 and
soundly punted him off. I had to laugh at the justice of it.
And still this guy turns another car around in the inter loop later. He
finished way behind the leaders while me and the guy I diced with the
whole race moved through the field to a 2-3 finish. Oh, and I did finally
got him on the exit to T1 and he chased me to the finish. :)
I guess my point is these types, even when fast, can be dealt with on
track as well as off track It's as much of a challenge as dealing with
confused backmarkers, and as rewarding.
Marty
>> For instance, how come that I feel I am
>> the only one who race with a full name and not some stupid nick. In
>> GPL I know who I race, in N4 it could be anyone on this ng without
>> even knowing it.
>Pre-patch, the names as entered in Nascar 4 were displayed in the player
>list. As it stands now, it seems that the username that you registered
>to get into the matching service is displayed, not your actual name from
>N4. I for one hate the change, but then again, my username nick is
>GregorV, so you'll be able to recognize me :).
>-Gregor
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Kyle Langston
There are going to be times when someone gets a run on you and goes to
the inside, and the lower you are, the worse they're angle is going to
be into the corner because they're even lower. If I were in the lead
in a situation like this I would move up and give them a chance to
move up a little before we reached the turn, so I had a decent chance
of running alongside them without getting punted.
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Kyle Langston
| > I've seen this in league rules before for N3, and I disagree. The
problem(as I
| > understand it) is that if the cars are equal, it's almost *impossible*
to pass
| > on the high line. Even if the the following car is a little better, you
have
| > the same problem. So, if one driver jumps to the front, grabs the low
line,
| > and STAYS there, he's guaranteed a win.
| >
| > Eldred
| > --
| > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
| > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
| > F1 hcp. +24.63...F2 +151.26...
| >
| > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
| > with experience...
| > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
|
>THE FINISH LINE!!
>Anyone who ***es about courtesy in racing can go to the stands and be
>courtious
>while passing nachos.
>It's called RACING for a reason!
John