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GPL......Don't bother!!!

Eldred Picke

GPL......Don't bother!!!

by Eldred Picke » Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:00:00


>Sierra published minimum system requirements because they knew that
>anything below that line would be unplayable. Anything at the system
>minimums is probably just playable with all of the options turned off,
>that's why it's a -minimum requirement-. To truely enjoy a cutting edge,
>technologically advanced simulation you will need a cutting edge,
>technologically advanced machine.

I know, I'm jumping in late.  But, it would be nice if the developers gave
more realistic minimums.  They should know from previous releases what frame
rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT.
________

Eldred Pickett
e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply

Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...

Trip

GPL......Don't bother!!!

by Trip » Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:00:00



> >Sierra published minimum system requirements because they knew that
> >anything below that line would be unplayable. Anything at the system
> >minimums is probably just playable with all of the options turned off,
> >that's why it's a -minimum requirement-. To truely enjoy a cutting edge,
> >technologically advanced simulation you will need a cutting edge,
> >technologically advanced machine.

> I know, I'm jumping in late.  But, it would be nice if the developers gave
> more realistic minimums.  They should know from previous releases what frame
> rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT.

Acceptable to who? They can't read your mind...

Trips

Byron Forbe

GPL......Don't bother!!!

by Byron Forbe » Wed, 14 Oct 1998 04:00:00

If you just got a PII 450 and found that GPL ran fine on a P200mmx how would you feel.
Sounds like you lot need to buy your software from a 2nd hand shop! What a load of ***it
is to think that new software should not be designed to run optimally on the latest
hardware. Should GPL run on a 486? 386? ...................



> >Sierra published minimum system requirements because they knew that
> >anything below that line would be unplayable. Anything at the system
> >minimums is probably just playable with all of the options turned off,
> >that's why it's a -minimum requirement-. To truely enjoy a cutting edge,
> >technologically advanced simulation you will need a cutting edge,
> >technologically advanced machine.

> I know, I'm jumping in late.  But, it would be nice if the developers gave
> more realistic minimums.  They should know from previous releases what frame
> rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT.
> ________

> Eldred Pickett
> e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply

> Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...

--
 Byron Forbes
 Captain of Team Lightning Bolt

 http://www.racesimcentral.net/~HOSHUMUNGUS

    and

 http://www.racesimcentral.net/~godsoe/bolt/home.htm

Eldred Picke

GPL......Don't bother!!!

by Eldred Picke » Wed, 14 Oct 1998 04:00:00


>> I know, I'm jumping in late.  But, it would be nice if the developers gave
>> more realistic minimums.  They should know from previous releases what frame
>> rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT.
>Acceptable to who? They can't read your mind...
>Trips

Ok, I didn't fully explain.  Based their responses to previous releases.  I'm
sure they've heard from customers and playtesters alike...
________

Eldred Pickett
e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply

Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...

Eldred Picke

GPL......Don't bother!!!

by Eldred Picke » Wed, 14 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Did I *say* it should run on a 486?!?  NO.  If the program takes advantage of
the latest hardware, FINE, I'm all for it.  I'll have to decide if I want
to get a newer machine just for one game.  Just don't state the minimum
requirements at a p166(thus giving false hope) when in REALITY you need a 266
to get any enjoyment(playability).
Did I make it clear this time?

In article

>If you just got a PII 450 and found that GPL ran fine on a P200mmx how would you feel.
>Sounds like you lot need to buy your software from a 2nd hand shop! What a load of ***it
>is to think that new software should not be designed to run optimally on the latest
>hardware. Should GPL run on a 486? 386? ...................


>> >Sierra published minimum system requirements because they knew that
>> >anything below that line would be unplayable. Anything at the system
>> >minimums is probably just playable with all of the options turned off,
>> >that's why it's a -minimum requirement-. To truely enjoy a cutting edge,
>> >technologically advanced simulation you will need a cutting edge,
>> >technologically advanced machine.

>> I know, I'm jumping in late.  But, it would be nice if the developers gave
>> more realistic minimums.  They should know from previous releases what frame
>> rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT.
>> ________

>> Eldred Pickett
>> e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply

>> Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...
>--
> Byron Forbes
> Captain of Team Lightning Bolt
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/~HOSHUMUNGUS
>    and
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/~godsoe/bolt/home.htm

________

Eldred Pickett
e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply

Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...

SpiL

GPL......Don't bother!!!

by SpiL » Wed, 14 Oct 1998 04:00:00


> Did I *say* it should run on a 486?!?  NO.  If the program takes advantage of
> the latest hardware, FINE, I'm all for it.  I'll have to decide if I want
> to get a newer machine just for one game.

one game?  or a new generation of games?

actually, no.

so what you're saying is that all software producers should make a list of
minimum requirements.  minimum to run the game (p166) and then the minimum
required to passify people of all different personalities.  that alone
could take the backside of the box.  perhaps a velcro leaflet of some sort
attached to the box listing various degrees of minimum requirements so
that _everyone_ is taken into account.

don't blame papyrus for the fact that you won't upgrade.  a pII based
motherboard and chip are _entirely_ too cheap now to hang onto that
processor you have.  

that, or find a hobby you can afford/cope with shelling out some bucks
for.  video games/sims are a little out of your league, apparently.

-jch

Trip

GPL......Don't bother!!!

by Trip » Wed, 14 Oct 1998 04:00:00



> >> I know, I'm jumping in late.  But, it would be nice if the developers gave
> >> more realistic minimums.  They should know from previous releases what frame
> >> rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT.

> >Acceptable to who? They can't read your mind...

> >Trips
> Ok, I didn't fully explain.  Based their responses to previous releases.  I'm
> sure they've heard from customers and playtesters alike...

I'm sure they did too, but I'm not sure what it was that they heard. It
almost sounds like you expect all playtesters and customers to have the
same standards when it comes to framerate.

Trips

Byron Forbe

GPL......Don't bother!!!

by Byron Forbe » Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Surely you don't take the slightest notice of what the min req say's on any box do you?
Mike Lescault, former Papy spokesman, told us we'd be wanting a PII300 ages ago. Maybe
that's why he's an ex employee. LOL.


> Did I *say* it should run on a 486?!?  NO.  If the program takes advantage of
> the latest hardware, FINE, I'm all for it.  I'll have to decide if I want
> to get a newer machine just for one game.  Just don't state the minimum
> requirements at a p166(thus giving false hope) when in REALITY you need a 266
> to get any enjoyment(playability).
> Did I make it clear this time?

> In article

> >If you just got a PII 450 and found that GPL ran fine on a P200mmx how would you feel.
> >Sounds like you lot need to buy your software from a 2nd hand shop! What a load of ***it
> >is to think that new software should not be designed to run optimally on the latest
> >hardware. Should GPL run on a 486? 386? ...................



> >> >Sierra published minimum system requirements because they knew that
> >> >anything below that line would be unplayable. Anything at the system
> >> >minimums is probably just playable with all of the options turned off,
> >> >that's why it's a -minimum requirement-. To truely enjoy a cutting edge,
> >> >technologically advanced simulation you will need a cutting edge,
> >> >technologically advanced machine.

> >> I know, I'm jumping in late.  But, it would be nice if the developers gave
> >> more realistic minimums.  They should know from previous releases what frame
> >> rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT.
> >> ________

> >> Eldred Pickett
> >> e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply

> >> Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...

> >--
> > Byron Forbes
> > Captain of Team Lightning Bolt

> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/~HOSHUMUNGUS

> >    and

> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/~godsoe/bolt/home.htm

> ________

> Eldred Pickett
> e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply

> Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...

--
 Byron Forbes
 Captain of Team Lightning Bolt

 http://www.racesimcentral.net/~HOSHUMUNGUS

    and

 http://www.racesimcentral.net/~godsoe/bolt/home.htm

BMan

GPL......Don't bother!!!

by BMan » Mon, 26 Oct 1998 03:00:00

    Actually Byron it runs rather well on a P200MMX/Monster 1/ 64M RAM. You do have to lower
the number of cars in races...I've tried 5-7 with acceptable (35fps) framerates and all
options on. I've found the the number of sounds is what really sends the framerate down the
tubes...so I leave it set at 3 and I'm a happy camper....

    ....but I really do need to upgrade to a P II-350...<wink>

    Brent


> If you just got a PII 450 and found that GPL ran fine on a P200mmx how would you feel.
> Sounds like you lot need to buy your software from a 2nd hand shop! What a load of ***it
> is to think that new software should not be designed to run optimally on the latest
> hardware. Should GPL run on a 486? 386? ...................



> > >Sierra published minimum system requirements because they knew that
> > >anything below that line would be unplayable. Anything at the system
> > >minimums is probably just playable with all of the options turned off,
> > >that's why it's a -minimum requirement-. To truely enjoy a cutting edge,
> > >technologically advanced simulation you will need a cutting edge,
> > >technologically advanced machine.

> > I know, I'm jumping in late.  But, it would be nice if the developers gave
> > more realistic minimums.  They should know from previous releases what frame
> > rates and options are acceptable, and which are NOT.
> > ________

> > Eldred Pickett
> > e-mail address altered to deter spammers - remove the '*' to reply

> > Put your message in a modem - and throw it into the ***-sea...

> --
>  Byron Forbes
>  Captain of Team Lightning Bolt

>  http://www.racesimcentral.net/~HOSHUMUNGUS

>     and

>  http://www.racesimcentral.net/~godsoe/bolt/home.htm


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