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GP3 OBVIOUS point For Crammond and Co

Joel Willstei

GP3 OBVIOUS point For Crammond and Co

by Joel Willstei » Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:00:00


BK,

     What I read is that Red Baron II sales were so poor,that Sierra had it
stripped to practically its demo state,and wholesaled it off to any large
discount chain.

      What I read was that the problem with Red BaronII was that no one was
really interested in a flight sim that was simulating events from nearly 90
years ago. The kids of today want the latest and hottest jets. Even WWll
still sells,but todays high tech is #1.

       Joel Willstein

Andre Warrin

GP3 OBVIOUS point For Crammond and Co

by Andre Warrin » Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Sounds exactly like the GPL story, RBII was a pearl too which didn't
sell good. But there was a very good reason for this, it didn't have
3dfx support, which was allready a standard even for it's time of
release. Even on the fastest systems the game was ridiculous slow. It
took about a year before the 3dfx patch finally showed up. Then it was
re-released as Red Baron 3d, full price.

The difference with GPL is that most people do know the planes that
flew in WW1. Many people have heard of the Red Baron.
But no so many people do know about racing in the '60s, and I don't
think that many kids ever heard of Clark and Hill (the father of Damon
you mean? He was a driver too?)

Andre

>     What I read is that Red Baron II sales were so poor,that Sierra had it
>stripped to practically its demo state,and wholesaled it off to any large
>discount chain.

>      What I read was that the problem with Red BaronII was that no one was
>really interested in a flight sim that was simulating events from nearly 90
>years ago. The kids of today want the latest and hottest jets. Even WWll
>still sells,but todays high tech is #1.

>       Joel Willstein


Richard G Cleg

GP3 OBVIOUS point For Crammond and Co

by Richard G Cleg » Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:00:00



:> (snip)
:> Sierra had the same problem with Red Baron II that actually had a
:> worse sales record than GPL.
:> (unsnip)
:>
:> Then how do you explain, Joel, that (a) the original Red Baron sold like
:> hot-cakes, (b) any WW2 flight-sim worth its salt sells like hot cakes?

:      What I read is that Red Baron II sales were so poor,that Sierra had it
: stripped to practically its demo state,and wholesaled it off to any large
: discount chain.

:       What I read was that the problem with Red BaronII was that no one was
: really interested in a flight sim that was simulating events from nearly 90
: years ago. The kids of today want the latest and hottest jets. Even WWll
: still sells,but todays high tech is #1.

  Surely the Red Baron was WW I.  (he said pedantically).

--
Richard G. Clegg       Only the mind is waving
    Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group
      Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York
    www:  http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html

Andrew MacPhers

GP3 OBVIOUS point For Crammond and Co

by Andrew MacPhers » Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Well here in the UK, when I was a kid we had a choice of several (3 or 4)
WW2 based comics sat alongside Beano/Dandy/whatever. And no wet, rainy
Sunday afternoon would have been complete without at leave *one* WW2 movie
on the TV.

Maybe you missed out because Aus doesn't have enough wet and rainy Sunday
afternoons :-)

Andrew McP

Bruce Kennewel

GP3 OBVIOUS point For Crammond and Co

by Bruce Kennewel » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Roger that, Joel! :o)
Thanks.

BK


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Michael

GP3 OBVIOUS point For Crammond and Co

by Michael » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00



Now just a minute, I love GPL, probably my most played game ever, and I
am nowhere near as good as Jim Clark in real life.

I can beat him at the Nurburgring every time though in GPL, so I wouldn't
say it was too hard.

The problem is most people aren't interested in how a racing car behaves
on the limit of adhesion. They just want a steering test like NFS:-(

- Michael

Michael

GP3 OBVIOUS point For Crammond and Co

by Michael » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00


I really, really hope so. The worst thing at ECTS was not the graphics,
though they were bad enough, it was the appallingly choppy framerate.
Hardware support should fix that though.

- Michael

Bruce Kennewel

GP3 OBVIOUS point For Crammond and Co

by Bruce Kennewel » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

LOL!!  You ought to see what crappy Spring weather we've had here in
Canberra for the past fortnight!!
I do certainly remember being an ardent fan of a small "paperback-size" (not
thickness, just length/width) British-produced war comic which always had
British pilots, soldiers and sailors winning through with grim determination
and lots of quoting "Tally-ho, chaps!" and "Jolly good show!"...etc. The
drawings were excellent.


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