> > Believe me, the game is a blast once you get it working right.
> > :-D
> I've read and appreciated all the responds to my post, but I haven't got
> time to respond to everyone. The point I tried to make has to do with the
> statement above: I'm sure the game is a blast, once you get it working
> right. But that's all the more reason to be appalled at some stupid
> controller issue, which seems to make the game inaccessible for a lot of
> people. For example: I've had a game called Rollcage 2, a nice arcade
racer,
> but nothing spectacular. Anyway, I never got my pedals to work, and I
> could't find a solution for this problem. So I cast the game aside, no big
> deal. But that's exactly what I don't want to do with F1 2001, because
it's
> a good game.
> EAsports should take responsibility for issues like this, and solve them
(I
> really don't care how they do it). Setting up the controller for any race
> game should not be some 'enormous hurdle' to take, and definitely
shouldn't
> require '*** tweaking' of DirectX settings (possibly screwing up
other
> things in my PC).
> I feel it's *their* (EAsports) problem, not *my* problem. But since I've
> bought the game, it *is* my problem.
> I'll give F1 2001 a try tonight, I'll have my new system then.
> Cheers,
> Ice D
My $0.01 (adjusted for Canadian exchange rate)
-Phasor
> My $0.01 (adjusted for Canadian exchange rate)
> -Phasor
> > There are many great games out there, and I'm often amazed at how
it's
> > possible to 'make' stuff like that. It's just unbelievable to me,
maybe
> > you've had this feeling as well. It's like the mystery of the
lightbulb,
> > multiplied by one hundred. And I don't necessarily *want* to know
how it's
> > all done, I'm quite happy being in the dark about this. I grew up
with
> > videogames, and I've basically seen it all: from Pong to Porsche
Unleashed
> > (so to speak), and I take my hat of to all the creative geniuses
that made
> > it all happen. But here's what I don't get: if you're so damn' smart
that
> > you can create a racing game like eeeeuhm... well F1 2001 for
instance
> (why
> > not), how come you***up the controller settings big time! In my
mind,
> > fixing such a problem ought to be infinitely more simple to create
the
> game
> > itself. And if they are aware of the problem - and I'm sure they
are - why
> > don't they ***y fix it then!!! In my opinion, there's no excuse
for
> this.
> > People pay good money for their stuff, they'd better make sure it
works
> > properly.
> > Had to get that of my chest...
> > Happy racing,
> > Ice D
Thanks,
Marc
> This reduced the deadzone in the middle of the wheel for me enough so I
> could steer quite reliably. I didn't use DXTweak so a slight deadzone
> is apparent, but not a major problem.
> Jason.
> (Ferrari FF)
> > it's impossible to keep the car going straight to start with
> > > It might help a little if people would say what problems they are
having
> > > instead of just coming in here and ***ing. I'm still not sure what
> > > some people are complaining about. I have tried it with a Sidewinder
> --
> Jason Monds
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - Pro Racing Club! (GPL)
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run Sims)
> (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
David G Fisher
> Thanks,
> Marc
> > FWIW, On the main controllers screen, leave the entries at 50% and 50%.
> > Goto the advanced setup and set the X-axis (steering axis) to 40% or
> > less.
> > This reduced the deadzone in the middle of the wheel for me enough so I
> > could steer quite reliably. I didn't use DXTweak so a slight deadzone
> > is apparent, but not a major problem.
> > Jason.
> > (Ferrari FF)
> > > it's impossible to keep the car going straight to start with
> > > > It might help a little if people would say what problems they are
> having
> > > > instead of just coming in here and ***ing. I'm still not sure
what
> > > > some people are complaining about. I have tried it with a
Sidewinder
> > --
> > Jason Monds
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - Pro Racing Club! (GPL)
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run Sims)
> > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
Have you tried speed sensitivity set to about 10%? Feels much better I
reckon (at least with my LWFF)
(Man, wish I had F1-2001 at work... This information would be much more
accurate :)
Jason.
> Where is the advanced setup? I have keyboard, 2 stick/wheel and a FFB
> settings icons. I don't see any advanced set-up, but I need to fix the
> problem with inability to steer straight at high speeds with the Ferrari
> wheel.
> Thanks,
> Marc
I will try your settings, but I would love to know how it affects the
linearity. I will try to leave the speed sensitivity alone for now--at
least I think I understand that it is dulling the steering sensitivity at
high speeds, which I don't want.
Thanks,
Marc
> David G Fisher
> > Where is the advanced setup? I have keyboard, 2 stick/wheel and a FFB
> > settings icons. I don't see any advanced set-up, but I need to fix the
> > problem with inability to steer straight at high speeds with the Ferrari
> > wheel.
> > Thanks,
> > Marc
> > > FWIW, On the main controllers screen, leave the entries at 50% and
50%.
> > > Goto the advanced setup and set the X-axis (steering axis) to 40% or
> > > less.
> > > This reduced the deadzone in the middle of the wheel for me enough so
I
> > > could steer quite reliably. I didn't use DXTweak so a slight deadzone
> > > is apparent, but not a major problem.
> > > Jason.
> > > (Ferrari FF)
> > > > it's impossible to keep the car going straight to start with
> > > > > It might help a little if people would say what problems they are
> > having
> > > > > instead of just coming in here and ***ing. I'm still not sure
> what
> > > > > some people are complaining about. I have tried it with a
> Sidewinder
> > > --
> > > Jason Monds
> > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - Pro Racing Club! (GPL)
> > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run
Sims)
> > > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
No. :-) I really don't know. I've never heard a detailed explanation from
one of the developers, and they are the only ones who really know what's
going on. The settings (their names and numbers) don't really matter until I
get that explanation. I just set up the wheel/game until it feels right to
me. I would guess the short and simple reason they'd give for all those
individual settings along with the speed sensivity option is because the
various wheels on the market are so different in feel and construction.
David G Fisher
> I will try your settings, but I would love to know how it affects the
> linearity. I will try to leave the speed sensitivity alone for now--at
> least I think I understand that it is dulling the steering sensitivity at
> high speeds, which I don't want.
> Thanks,
> Marc
> > I have the Ferrari ff wheel too. X axis is at 20%. Y is 20%. Z is 80%.
> Speed
> > sensitive set to 60% or higher. High speed handling is fine.
> > David G Fisher
> > > Where is the advanced setup? I have keyboard, 2 stick/wheel and a FFB
> > > settings icons. I don't see any advanced set-up, but I need to fix
the
> > > problem with inability to steer straight at high speeds with the
Ferrari
> > > wheel.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Marc
message
> > > > FWIW, On the main controllers screen, leave the entries at 50% and
> 50%.
> > > > Goto the advanced setup and set the X-axis (steering axis) to 40% or
> > > > less.
> > > > This reduced the deadzone in the middle of the wheel for me enough
so
> I
> > > > could steer quite reliably. I didn't use DXTweak so a slight
deadzone
> > > > is apparent, but not a major problem.
> > > > Jason.
> > > > (Ferrari FF)
> > > > > it's impossible to keep the car going straight to start with
> > > > > > It might help a little if people would say what problems they
are
> > > having
> > > > > > instead of just coming in here and ***ing. I'm still not sure
> > what
> > > > > > some people are complaining about. I have tried it with a
> > Sidewinder
> > > > --
> > > > Jason Monds
> > > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - Pro Racing Club! (GPL)
> > > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run
> Sims)
> > > > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
BTW speed sensitivity is not the same as steering linearity. Steering
linearity is a feature in some sims which changes the ratio depending on
wheel position, kind of like a more progressive version of a dead spot.
F1 2001 does not allow you to adjust linearity, although you can add a
dead spot. Some people have found that they like using 0% speed
sensitivity and a 1% dead spot better than using any amount of speed
sensitivity.
So basically the settings that you have are first X axis sensitivity,
which along with the Steering Lock setting in the vehicle setup
determines the base steering ratio, Speed Sensitivity, which determines
how much the steering ratio is reduced at high speeds, and the X axis
dead spot, which puts a flat spot in the middle of the steering response
curve.
Some months ago (before F1 2001 was released) I heard from ISI that
their research has shown that most of their players use gamepads and
joysticks, so I believe the default settings of 50% speed sensitivity
and 50% x axis sensitivity were designed with that in mind.
Unfortunately a lot of people on the net are convinced that 50% is the
linear setting for both, but if you drive the car around carefully with
different settings I believe you will find that is not true. 50% is for
joystick users, for wheels the settings above make a lot more sense.
> I will try your settings, but I would love to know how it affects the
> linearity. I will try to leave the speed sensitivity alone for
now--at
> least I think I understand that it is dulling the steering sensitivity
at
> high speeds, which I don't want.
> Thanks,
> Marc
> > I have the Ferrari ff wheel too. X axis is at 20%. Y is 20%. Z is
80%.
> Speed
> > sensitive set to 60% or higher. High speed handling is fine.
> > David G Fisher
> > > Where is the advanced setup? I have keyboard, 2 stick/wheel and a
FFB
> > > settings icons. I don't see any advanced set-up, but I need to
fix the
> > > problem with inability to steer straight at high speeds with the
Ferrari
> > > wheel.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Marc
message
> > > > FWIW, On the main controllers screen, leave the entries at 50%
and
> 50%.
> > > > Goto the advanced setup and set the X-axis (steering axis) to
40% or
> > > > less.
> > > > This reduced the deadzone in the middle of the wheel for me
enough so
> I
> > > > could steer quite reliably. I didn't use DXTweak so a slight
deadzone
> > > > is apparent, but not a major problem.
> > > > Jason.
> > > > (Ferrari FF)
> > > > > it's impossible to keep the car going straight to start with
> > > > > > It might help a little if people would say what problems
they are
> > > having
> > > > > > instead of just coming in here and ***ing. I'm still not
sure
> > what
> > > > > > some people are complaining about. I have tried it with a
> > Sidewinder
> > > > --
> > > > Jason Monds
> > > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - Pro Racing Club! (GPL)
> > > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun
Run
> Sims)
> > > > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)
