rec.autos.simulators

Friends: Be Careful before you buy the latest AMD ASUS board. Its a bear!!! N7N8X... Don Wilshe

Goy Larse

Friends: Be Careful before you buy the latest AMD ASUS board. Its a bear!!! N7N8X... Don Wilshe

by Goy Larse » Wed, 25 Dec 2002 19:11:42


> > I'm sorry, but I still disagree with you, you're comparing a BOXED
> > version of Intel vs an OEM version of AMD with an aftermarket
> > fan....furthemore my GlacialTek Igloo fan is just as quiet as any of
> > Intel's BOXED fans, is rated for the XP2600+, and it's not overly
> > expensive

> > I would suggest that you ended up with the "wrong" fan because of your
> > unfamiliarity with AMD's, which is totally understandable since it's
> > your first AMD system, but had you gone the other way and bought OEM
> > Intel CPU's, you would have the exact same problem you know :-)

> Goy,

> I bought a Zalman Copper 'Flower' Heatsink with a 90mm fan.  I was so
> disgusted with the deafeningly-noisy, 'Coolermaster' fan that my supplier
> threw in with my OEM XP 1800+.  However, I've been very dissappointed with
> this combo too - I find that the CPU runs so hot with this copper heatsink
> that I have to run the 90mm fan at its maximum speed making it nearly as
> loud as the original fan.  Have you had any experience with these
> (expensive) Zalmans?  Are the GlacialTek Igloos any better?

Hi Damien

Sorry, don't know the brand and I had a hard time finding a URL using
Google but I assume you're talking about the one that looks like a
Japanese fan or something ? :-), and yes, the "standard" Coolermaster
fans are somewhat noisy

If that's the one you're using, I saw one site which rated the fan noise
at some 31 dBA, which isn't particularly noisy, but since the dBA scale
is Logarithmic (?) and the noise level doubles for every 10 dBA it would
still be about 50% louder than these two fans

http://www.racesimcentral.net/
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

It says on the GlacialTech site that they recommend the 2320 for 2100+,
but on the box it comes in it says it's rated for the 2600+ as well, but
if you're having heat problems it might be an idea to look at the 2410
instead, the dBA's listed there are factory specs of course, I wouldn't
take them at face value, but if the Zalman fan is rated at 31.1 dBA by
the factory, then I would assume that these fans are at least somewhat
quieter

When you say it's running so hot you need to turn the fan speed up, what
kind of temps are you seeing ?

If you're running an ASUS board, temps in the middle to high 60's (C) is
not uncommon, my 2600+ is running at an indicated 67C at full load and
is nothing but stable, some MoBo's report higher temps than others on
AMD CPU's as opposed to Intel where the temps on the same CPU fluctuate
only within a couple of degrees from one MoBo to the next whereas with
AMD's you might easily see 10,15 and even 20C difference from an ASUS
board to an MSI board and this difference throws a lot of people off it
seems

If your CPU runs stable under 100% CPU load then it's probably not over
heating despite what the temp sensors might be telling you

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

"The Pits"    http://www.racesimcentral.net/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
--Groucho Marx--

Don Burnett

Friends: Be Careful before you buy the latest AMD ASUS board. Its a bear!!! N7N8X... Don Wilshe

by Don Burnett » Wed, 25 Dec 2002 20:58:51

Lol, that's fer sure.
:)
Keep us posted on your progress, I was planning on ordering one of those boards.
I am trying to decide between the EPoX and the Asus. The Asus is more pricey, and I have had good luck with EPoX, but have heard such good things about Asus thought I might try one.

--
Don Burnette


  Those big words hurt your brain. hehe
  dw

  The list is a list of problems..  

  --
  Donald Wilshe
  888 588-9207
  Martel Brothers Performance, Worlds Largest On-Line Auto Parts Mfg Catalog Library
  www.martelbros.com
  Other Interest:
  www.ivga.com
  www.games-advertising.com
  www.whra.com


    What the heck is all that garbage posted below?
    Damn, trying to read that ***gave me a headache.

    Try reading the manual.

    --
    Don Burnette


      I have one and i have just posted my two latest problems..

       SAFE MODE BOOT: MUP.SYS Hangs  1 dw 12/24/2002 2:27:58 AM

       Graphics Card: PCI Works, AGP Dont  1 dw 12/24/2002 2:24:34 AM

      snip

Goy Larse

Friends: Be Careful before you buy the latest AMD ASUS board. Its a bear!!! N7N8X... Don Wilshe

by Goy Larse » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 00:53:05


> What rpm does your cpu fan run at? When I had a T-Bird it ran at
> 6000rpm, my Intel cpu fan runs just under 3000rpm and still runs way
> cooler than the T-Bird did.

The same, 3000 rpm, and yes, the Intel will most likely run cooler

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

Tony Jeste

Friends: Be Careful before you buy the latest AMD ASUS board. Its a bear!!! N7N8X... Don Wilshe

by Tony Jeste » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 01:07:47


OK Goy, I'll bite the bullet and get one.  I guess I can use this noisy one
in a future system I'll build for work.  I need to upgrade the computer out
in the shop so noise won't be a problem.  Thanks for the advice.

-Tony-

Tony Jeste

Friends: Be Careful before you buy the latest AMD ASUS board. Its a bear!!! N7N8X... Don Wilshe

by Tony Jeste » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 01:18:36




> >I'm running a 2600+ myself and it's
> > dead quiet, my choice of CPU cooler is the Glacial Tech Igloo 2320 (non
> > PRO),

> OK Goy, I'll bite the bullet and get one.

Just ordered it from NEWEGG.  $10 bucks, free shipping.  That's 1/4 the
price of the one I bought.   I wish I had asked here first!   Thanks.

-Tony-

Goy Larse

Friends: Be Careful before you buy the latest AMD ASUS board. Its a bear!!! N7N8X... Don Wilshe

by Goy Larse » Thu, 26 Dec 2002 10:23:27


> Just ordered it from NEWEGG.  $10 bucks, free shipping.  That's 1/4 the
> price of the one I bought.   I wish I had asked here first!   Thanks.

You're quite welcome, 10 dollars, that IS cheap, hope you find it as
quiet as I am, but I can't imagine you finding it noisy, I have one on
this PC as well, an OC'ed P3-1200 which is sitting in my bedroom and
it's on 24/7 and I can't stand noisy computers anymore

I was really into OC'ing earlier, Peltier cooler and 7200 RPM Delta
fans, hell, that PC was noisy sitting 2 rooms away :-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

Joachim Trens

Friends: Be Careful before you buy the latest AMD ASUS board. Its a bear!!! N7N8X... Don Wilshe

by Joachim Trens » Sun, 29 Dec 2002 02:13:11

It's an excellent board Don, I have one running here. Some people have probs
with WinXP, have a look over in the forums of www.ambmb.com or
www.nforcershq.com or alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus for causes and
solutions.

Usually out of the box this board runs just fine, with a few exceptions as
you'll find them with every new board, but they seem to all be related to
the early BIOS versions, to excessive or sloppily carried out overclocking
attempts, or to general  user error. Your list of copied headings sings this
song loud and clear as well.

This is one of the finest (and the fastest) Athlon board(s) around.

Achim

Joachim Trens

Friends: Be Careful before you buy the latest AMD ASUS board. Its a bear!!! N7N8X... Don Wilshe

by Joachim Trens » Sun, 29 Dec 2002 07:13:22

I forgot to add this link:

http://www.amdforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=180138&perpage=15...
mber=1


rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. As this group was always unmoderated there may be some spam or off topic articles included. Some links do point back to racesimcentral.net as we could not validate the original address. Please report any pages that you believe warrant deletion from this archive (include the link in your email). RaceSimCentral.net is in no way responsible and does not endorse any of the content herein.