rec.autos.simulators

> mangled uncounted electrons thus:

> <snip>

> >2. No online-racing....  (how "he" could miss that one,  is beyond me...
> >Wake you Crammond - we're living in the 21st century now!!)

> Y'know, I'm puzzled by the whole on-line racing thing. I *know*
> it's a big part of GPL's appeal to folks hereabouts, but I would
> be interested to know...

> The USA doesn't have the interest in Formula 1 that exists in
> Europe and elsewhere in the world, true? So, is the lack of
> on-line racing in GC's F1 games simply his recognition of the
> fact that most of the world doesn't get free 'phone calls to
> their ISPs?

> I've often wondered about playing various games on-line, against
> non-AI opponents - but there's no way I can afford to indulge
> that interest.

> Martin D. Pay
> Just my 2 penn'orth...

>>2. No online-racing....  (how "he" could miss that one,  is beyond me...
>>Wake you Crammond - we're living in the 21st century now!!)

>Y'know, I'm puzzled by the whole on-line racing thing. I *know*
>it's a big part of GPL's appeal to folks hereabouts, but I would
>be interested to know...

>The USA doesn't have the interest in Formula 1 that exists in
>Europe and elsewhere in the world, true?

> > Having vigorously defended Team Crammond on these pages over the last few
> > days, my initial reaction is that although some elements of the game are
> > excellent, it has an almost arcade feel in comparison to, wait for it
> guys,
> > wonderful old GPL.
> <SNIP!>

> I must say I really admire you for "eating your own words" Chris... must
> feel very bitter I reckon.

> > - Steering wheel console is an "industry standard"

> I really hope you're NOT referring to the controller-setup screen here...
> (?) -  'cause if it's still the same that was in the "beta" (and GP2), I
> completely disagree with you..  The controller setup in GP3 is damn right
> stupid. It takes ages to setup a wheel and the fact that you have to guess
> what button goes where - instead of just selecting the comman you want and
> then depressing the button you want to control it - dont help much.  Not to
> mention that non-exsisting support for split-axis.

> I for one, wont buy GP3 no-matter how good it is tho...  for 2 reasons;
> 1. I have no plans to put even more money into Bernie's pocket... - besides
> F1 is so dull anyway.

> 2. No online-racing....  (how "he" could miss that one,  is beyond me...
> Wake you Crammond - we're living in the 21st century now!!)

> Ed_

> >Snip

> >> - Unique implementation of force feedback, which successfully replicates the
> >> car "pulling" in tight corners

> >Do you mean the way the Steering Wheel snaps towards
> >full lock? Mostly on left hand corners?

> My Force RS doesn't do that.

>Have managed to get a copy this morning (not at EB as my earlier post might
>indicate, but the retailer will remain nameless however).

>Having vigorously defended Team Crammond on these pages over the last few
>days, my initial reaction is that although some elements of the game are
>excellent, it has an almost arcade feel in comparison to, wait for it guys,
>wonderful old GPL.

>That said, there is much to commend GP3 for. Perhaps the best thing about it
>is that it hasn't been written as an elitist game for high end PC users
>only. Even modest machines are going to do it justice - a triumph of both
>sense and marketing, don't you think, in comparison to the snail races we
>endured when GPL arrived on the scene.

>Nonetheless, some things are absolutely unforgiveable: -

>- As warez users indicated, there is no sound from other cars at all, which
>creates an extremely detached feeling at times (cannot find anything to
>adjust in the options on this - have I got this right?).

>- The "hover cars" in pit lane look totally ridiculous

>- The frame rate is clearly limited by the old basic game engine, where the
>feeling of speed on long straights is not what it should be. In these days
>of 80fps+ in Quake 3, 25.6fps just doesn't cut the mustard (I believe that
>someone has already written a tweak to overcome this).
>I will not get into the numbers game of what my system is, other than to say
>processor occupancy is well within limits when this lack of speed is
>apparent.

>- Replays are also limited by the age of the basic engine.

>- No safety car, pit stop penalties etc.

>Now for what I really like about the game: -

>- Excellent driving feel which builds on GP2's reputation in this area

>- Fabulous weather implementation

>- Crash sequences can be frighteningly ***

>- Unique implementation of force feedback, which successfully replicates the
>car "pulling" in tight corners

>- Steering wheel console is an "industry standard"

>- The Alps in the distance at Monza at last appear in a game...

>Clearly there is much to discover and I will now take my time to get to know
>GP3 over the next few evenings and will do another post on Sunday to give a
>more considered view.

>I shall very much look forward to reading everyone else's opinions on r.a.s
>over the next few days.

>- The frame rate is clearly limited by the old basic game engine, where the
>feeling of speed on long straights is not what it should be. In these days
>of 80fps+ in Quake 3, 25.6fps just doesn't cut the mustard (I believe that
>someone has already written a tweak to overcome this).
>I will not get into the numbers game of what my system is, other than to say
>processor occupancy is well within limits when this lack of speed is
>apparent.

>x-no-archive: yes

>>Having vigorously defended Team Crammond on these pages over the last few
>>days, my initial reaction is that although some elements of the game are
>>excellent, it has an almost arcade feel in comparison to, wait for it guys,
>>wonderful old GPL.

>OK. I won't argue with that - especially as I haven't got GP3 yet, but...

>Would a modern F1 racing car feel a bit arcadeish when compared to one from
>GPL's era?

>I have a feeling it might. Especially until you attained enough skill to drive
>it close enough to the limit.

>R.