rec.autos.simulators

by **Magnus Svensso** » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:13:50

I think the throttle is the key. Even with just 20% differential
lockup the car pushes a fair bit in fast corners with the throttle on.
At a fast corner turn-in I try to control the push with the throttle,
first I lift quite a bit to get the car to the apex, stabilise the gas
mid corner, and then mash to push the car out to the kerb.

Pretty basic stuff, but it's pretty much the opposite of what you do
in GPL, isn't it? At least I how I drove GPL.

by Gu » Thu, 14 Aug 2003 05:29:20

I just hit 1.18.0xx this morning with only low tc and clutch. I've
notice though that hungaroring GP4 conversion is a much better driving
experience and from people's comments i've gathered it is modeled alot
better than the one from EA, primarily due to their use of GPS data
from the real tracks. I had much more fun and could do easily
1.15.6xx. I feel i can still manage to cut off at least 1.5sec from
the F1C track. Downloaded a vcr replay from someone who did a 1.15.6xx
(no aids) from f1rst hotlapping, but noticed he runs to much on grass
which imho is cheating. Go figure.

It would be nice though that i could compare telemetry with others,
but have yet to find where to dowload it from. It's still nice though
to be able to see the replay files from hotlaps in f1rst.

> What lap times are you guys getting in F1C Hungaroring? I just spent over
> 200 laps there (wasted a perfectly good Friday night!) and could not for
> the life of me get below 1:18. And the 1:18 was with the cheater aids on,
> with more normal settings (low TC and clutch) the high 1:19's was the best I
> could do. The AI are running in the 1:16 to 1:18 range. I watched them,
> wrote down their cornering speeds (pause key is handy for this), and
> compared it to my telemetry. I couldn't even come close without aids. In
> particular the car dies in the low speed corners but if I try and add
> throttle I spin. If I come in as fast as the AI the car pushes, if I add
> lock the speed drops like a rock, if I add throttle it spins, and if I
> loosen up the car I can't even get off the brakes without spinning. This is
> the 2002 McLaren BTW, if that makes any difference. Fiddled around with
> gears, camber, toe, etc. but could not find a way (without aids) to get
> through the hairpins at anywhere near the speeds the AI were doing. Weird
> thing is I was okay with the low speed sections at Silverstone, Nurburgring,
> and Hockenheim, but here I just can't get it. Any tips for driving, setup,
> etc. would be welcomed, because I just feel like I must be way off the pace
> here.

by **Ian** » Thu, 14 Aug 2003 06:10:55

> I just hit 1.18.0xx this morning with only low tc and clutch. I've
> notice though that hungaroring GP4 conversion is a much better driving
> experience and from people's comments i've gathered it is modeled alot
> better than the one from EA, primarily due to their use of GPS data
> from the real tracks. I had much more fun and could do easily
> 1.15.6xx. I feel i can still manage to cut off at least 1.5sec from
> the F1C track. Downloaded a vcr replay from someone who did a 1.15.6xx
> (no aids) from f1rst hotlapping, but noticed he runs to much on grass
> which imho is cheating. Go figure.

> It would be nice though that i could compare telemetry with others,
> but have yet to find where to dowload it from. It's still nice though
> to be able to see the replay files from hotlaps in f1rst.

I have uploaded a replay and setup of my 1:15.6xx using low TC if that's any
help.
http://www.iparker.plus.com/F1C/

--

Ian P
<email invalid due to spammers>

by **Mitch_** » Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:08:38

Great setup Ian. Thank you! The gearing was a tad tall for me and Im
thinkin about maybe stiffining the springs a tad as well. Them kerbs are
still kinda rough :)

I heading out to holiday at Yosemite till friday so Ill watch the replay
when I return.

Thanks again.

Mitch

> I have uploaded a replay and setup of my 1:15.6xx using low TC if that's
any
> help.
> http://www.iparker.plus.com/F1C/

> --

> Ian P
> <email invalid due to spammers>

by **Rich** » Fri, 15 Aug 2003 03:08:20

Where can Hungaroring GP4 conversion be found?

by **sixeastmai** » Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:23:37

You might try here.
http://f1hq.racesimcentral.com/site/page.php?pagina=3.php&titel=t3#h
There is a link for Hungary01 which I believe is the track they are talking
about. I have not tried it myself, so I'm not sure if it works in F1C.

Peter

> Where can Hungaroring GP4 conversion be found?

> >I just hit 1.18.0xx this morning with only low tc and clutch. I've
> >notice though that hungaroring GP4 conversion is a much better driving
> >experience and from people's comments i've gathered it is modeled alot
> >better than the one from EA, primarily due to their use of GPS data
> >from the real tracks.

by **Guz** » Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:37:43

http://f1hq.racesimcentral.com/site/files/Hungary01.zip

There is a guide somewhere in
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~hg/forum/viewforum.php?f=61&sid=72fd8d35...
343658e3f0659747e where they tell you how to make that track work in F1C,
matter of fact any f12k2 track. Use the search function in high gear forums.

> Where can Hungaroring GP4 conversion be found?

> >I just hit 1.18.0xx this morning with only low tc and clutch. I've
> >notice though that hungaroring GP4 conversion is a much better driving
> >experience and from people's comments i've gathered it is modeled alot
> >better than the one from EA, primarily due to their use of GPS data
> >from the real tracks.