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PC racing wheel search

Mike

PC racing wheel search

by Mike » Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:26:20

I'm looking for a pc racing wheel with one specific property.
Analog/progressive paddle shifters that I can use for brake and gas (instead
of foot pedals).  I had an old TM Grand Prix 1 (very simple) that worked
very well, but eventually wore out.  I also thought I found a replacement
with a Saitek model, but it turned out it wasn't XP compatible.  I also
found a GF? model at Best Buy, but it was a piece of ***and broke in less
than a week.  I just can't deal with the foot pedals as they move around too
much (and my feet aren't as fast as my hands).  Any suggestions or help
would be appreciated.
elrik

PC racing wheel search

by elrik » Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:44:55


The Logitech Driving Force;  made for the PS2 but works with every game I've
thrown at it on the PC.

This is not the latest model that just came out (the one with 2+ complete
turns of the wheel) but the one  previous.  You should still be able to find
it around.

Elrikk

Stephan Pasker

PC racing wheel search

by Stephan Pasker » Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:40:07


> I'm looking for a pc racing wheel with one specific property.
> Analog/progressive paddle shifters that I can use for brake and gas
> (instead of foot pedals).  I had an old TM Grand Prix 1 (very simple)
> that worked very well, but eventually wore out.  I also thought I
> found a replacement with a Saitek model, but it turned out it wasn't
> XP compatible.  I also found a GF? model at Best Buy, but it was a
> piece of ***and broke in less than a week.  I just can't deal with
> the foot pedals as they move around too much (and my feet aren't as
> fast as my hands).  Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.

Guillemot Ferrari Force Feedback Wheel has those paddles + foot pedals.
Dont know if its still available, because I got mine 2 years ago.

Stephan

Stephan Pasker

PC racing wheel search

by Stephan Pasker » Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:45:23



>> I'm looking for a pc racing wheel with one specific property.
>> Analog/progressive paddle shifters that I can use for brake and gas
>> (instead of foot pedals).  I had an old TM Grand Prix 1 (very simple)
>> that worked very well, but eventually wore out.  I also thought I
>> found a replacement with a Saitek model, but it turned out it wasn't
>> XP compatible.  I also found a GF? model at Best Buy, but it was a
>> piece of ***and broke in less than a week.  I just can't deal with
>> the foot pedals as they move around too much (and my feet aren't as
>> fast as my hands).  Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.

> Guillemot Ferrari Force Feedback Wheel has those paddles + foot
> pedals. Dont know if its still available, because I got mine 2
> years ago.

> Stephan

Forgot something: The wheel was later sold as Thrustmaster Force Feedback
Racing Wheel!
Plowboy

PC racing wheel search

by Plowboy » Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:26:42

Mike,

    If your NOT handicapped, I would suggest that you get a "good" wheel and
find a way to make the pedals stay put, and build up your reflexes.  heck I
even argue someday you will use the experience you gain, to save your ***
in a real life driving situation.  I use a cheap s***piece of paneling,
actually I use 3/8 inch plywood s***and made like a frame that the pedals
slip into the cut out.  you could do same or screw- or -glue into the bottom
of the pedals, to keep it the right distance from the wall & orientation,
under the desk.

Reason I said the above?  2 fold.  Padles are for formula 1 shifting.  So
most wheels wont use expensive analog devices to do a "shift" to passify 90%
of the 'WHeel & Pedals buyer" market.  2nd, Well there is no plausible
argument against a good quality wheel, not EXPENSIVE mind you, just good
wheels that dont spike and run on XP.  back when, a couple of companies
tried saving money by not making the pedals in the seperate pod, so they
made the paddles into throttle/brake analog devices.  Too bad that 2% or
less of the market was not enough too keep them mfg'n them.

    I love the now hard to find MS-Sidewinder Force wheels.  My whole team
(XTR_ which is 12 members strong, plus all 3 of my local racer buds) are
converts from MOMO & Thrust-***ic wheels.  I admit that sounded like
the new ones from logitech's might be ok, but personally, we all hated the
damn drivers and the way you have to muck with settings that are "NOT"
intuitive, nor with utils that were not easily found, like the direct-x
tweaking thing?

Sure, do it your way, this was just a suggestion, YMMV.

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> I'm looking for a pc racing wheel with one specific property.
> Analog/progressive paddle shifters that I can use for brake and gas
> (instead of foot pedals).  I had an old TM Grand Prix 1 (very simple)
> that worked very well, but eventually wore out.  I also thought I
> found a replacement with a Saitek model, but it turned out it wasn't
> XP compatible.  I also found a GF? model at Best Buy, but it was a
> piece of ***and broke in less than a week.  I just can't deal with
> the foot pedals as they move around too much (and my feet aren't as
> fast as my hands).  Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.

MadDAW

PC racing wheel search

by MadDAW » Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:27:39

Same here. The Momo is for use on the backup machine.  The MSFF was the best
$40 I ever spent for computer parts. I just wish I had bought a spare before
they were all gone.

MadDAWG

Plowboy

PC racing wheel search

by Plowboy » Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:26:06

I have to admit, I wanna thank NR4-03, & GPL for teaching me some way to
recover from "friction reduced surfaces" <VBG>.

    I Was driving only 60 MPH with our company truck not to long ago (nice
dodge ram 1500 performance/luxury one its our presidents daily driver- with
the hemi <G>) the 20" wheels were a bit thin on treads, when I got suprised
by a wet road, on a semi tight downward off camber turn.  I honestly feel
that having raced "virtually" under circumstances like this, and my seat
time in many sims over the last 10 years, helped me to make a quick decision
on how to save my ass...  the truck rear wheel's hydro-planed, (racers cal
this 'loose').  BTW, the water on the road wasn't from rain, but a
watermain? leak of some kind.  still I could have easily ended up sideways
or backwards in to oncoming traffic or in front of the 3 semi tractors I was
barely in front of...  Needless to say in an instant, I was petrified that
things were going wrong, but by .6 seconds into the problem, I was making
the right moves to save the situation, I pretty much kept the truck in my
lane and headed the right way...  Only I knew (and maybe the Fed-X truck
behind me saw the ass end stick out a ways...)  IMHO had I waited .3 seconds
longer, it would have been too late and possibly really bad...

4 lane in downtown KC mo...


>>     I love the now hard to find MS-Sidewinder Force wheels.  My
>> whole team (XTR_ which is 12 members strong, plus all 3 of my local
>> racer buds) are converts from MOMO & Thrust-***ic wheels.

> Same here. The Momo is for use on the backup machine.  The MSFF was
> the best $40 I ever spent for computer parts. I just wish I had
> bought a spare before they were all gone.

> MadDAWG

Uwe Sch??rkam

PC racing wheel search

by Uwe Sch??rkam » Sun, 05 Sep 2004 05:39:05


> I have to admit, I wanna thank NR4-03, & GPL for teaching me some way to
> recover from "friction reduced surfaces" <VBG>.

I had a similar experience a few years ago when I exited the autobahn
and got on to a slippery patch on the road (no idea what it was), but
I saved the car before I even knew what I was doing and caught it
within inches of the guardrail. It was only about ten seconds after I
drove happily on that the adrenalin set in big-time and I thought
"hey, this isn't GPL, you know" ;-) My colleague driving in the car
with me was quite impressed, too, but he didn't like the experience at
all ;-)

Cheers,

uwe

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Mitch_

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by Mitch_ » Sun, 05 Sep 2004 09:28:45

A friend of mine was driving up to Lake Tahoe for some *** on a chilly
winter night a few years ago.  As he was driving along he noticed the car in
front of him getting out of control all of a sudden.  At that moment he
realized he was on something very slippery and he also lost control.  This
is what he said afterwards. "It was an emergency, so I reached down and
yanked the EMERGENCY brake"...  He ended up in a snow bank un-damaged and
un-hurt.  Turned out to be black ice.  He now realizes that is not the type
of emergency that particular brake is used for :-)

Mitch



>> I have to admit, I wanna thank NR4-03, & GPL for teaching me some way to
>> recover from "friction reduced surfaces" <VBG>.

> I had a similar experience a few years ago when I exited the autobahn
> and got on to a slippery patch on the road (no idea what it was), but
> I saved the car before I even knew what I was doing and caught it
> within inches of the guardrail. It was only about ten seconds after I
> drove happily on that the adrenalin set in big-time and I thought
> "hey, this isn't GPL, you know" ;-) My colleague driving in the car
> with me was quite impressed, too, but he didn't like the experience at
> all ;-)

> Cheers,

> uwe

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> Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E)
> GPG Fingerprint:  2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F  67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61


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