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+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Hi, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- I am trying to understand what makes people choose one wheel over another +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- for their pc's. If you could please tell me what qualities (power, prestige, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- refined...) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-you associate with a good racing wheel it would help me out a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- lot. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-This is about the most difficult Q I've tried to answer, but here +ADw-br+AD4- goes... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-A simulation is about the suspense of disbelief (or something :-), in +ADw-br+AD4- other words, it needs to trigger something in your imagination that +ADw-br+AD4- makes you look past the fact that you are sitting in front of a +ADw-br+AD4- computer, and the wheel helps you do that much more than a joystick, +ADw-br+AD4- THAT is a fact, that is, if we are talking about a sim based on cars, +ADw-br+AD4- flightsims is a different matter I guess :-), yes, I know some people +ADw-br+AD4- choose to drive with a joystick, maybe combined with a pedal as this +ADw-br+AD4- gives them more control +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-That means they have a different +ACY-quot+ADs-level+ACY-quot+ADs- where they say, this is good +ADw-br+AD4- enough for me, from here on I take what gives me the best performance, +ADw-br+AD4- for me that goes with a good solid wheel and pedals, and I use what this +ADw-br+AD4- gives me to give me the best performance, ie, I left foot brake in every +ADw-br+AD4- sim, including those where I really ought to use my right foot, like +ADw-br+AD4- GPL, but that's MY level of reality before I wander of on a tangent to +ADw-br+AD4- get performance over reality, other's go all the way with a+ACoAKgAq-pit, FF +ADw-br+AD4- and whatever +ADw-br+AD4- (I've even seen pictures of a guy strapped into a race seat with 6 point +ADw-br+AD4- harness, driving suit, helmet and some other stuff, including a +ADw-br+AD4- heater/blower to simulate the heat inside a stockcar, he claimed he +ADw-br+AD4- raced like that), each to his own +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-So what you need is to find out what +ACY-quot+ADs-level+ACY-quot+ADs- you are at, and get a wheel +ADw-br+AD4- that fill those needs, for me it's this+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-It needs to be sturdy and durable, I race a LOT, at most I +ADw-br+AD4- practiced/raced 3-4 hours a day, and I tend to get a bit e+ACoAKgAq-d at +ADw-br+AD4- times, so a wheel that feels a lot like the wheel in my roadcar is what +ADw-br+AD4- I want, a sturdy wheel also give you the added benefit of accuracy, if +ADw-br+AD4- there's no sloppiness in the shaft assembly, a certain amount of lock on +ADw-br+AD4- the wheel gives you the same amount of lock on the front wheel every +ADw-br+AD4- time, not 5 degrees, I used to have a TM Nascar PRO (F1 in Europe), +ADw-br+AD4- that was a nice enough wheel really, but the shaft assembly was too +ADw-br+AD4- sloppy after a while and I needed to do something, so when a friend said +ADw-br+AD4- he was arranging to have some copies of the TSW made up, I asked him to +ADw-br+AD4- have one made for me as well +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-That wheel construction is incredibly sturdy and will probably never +ADw-br+AD4- wear out, except the odd pot meter, but even the wear on that goes down +ADw-br+AD4- when the shaft assembly don't move around, I still haven't replaced the +ADw-br+AD4- pot in my steering unit after one year of serious use, standard TM +ADw-br+AD4- replacement pot for the T2 was used here, this is the basic of what I +ADw-br+AD4- DEMAND from the steering unit, of course, there are a few things I'd +ADw-br+AD4- like to try that I've heard about, like the fluid dampening on the ECCI +ADw-br+AD4- units, one of the guys in the online racing team I belong to have one of +ADw-br+AD4- those, and he really loves it, he had a TSW before and won't go there +ADw-br+AD4- again after the ECCI, but I'm very happy with the TSW construction that +ADw-br+AD4- we basically copied, using springs instead of the bungee chord found in +ADw-br+AD4- cheep wheels +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Ok, pedals, totally different thing really, since most of us don't sit +ADw-br+AD4- in a racing seat 2+ACY-quot+ADs- from the floor, compromises are already in order and +ADw-br+AD4- the angle of the pedals are very important or you will get really tired, +ADw-br+AD4- they also need to very accurate, just like the wheel as in the more +ADw-br+AD4- sophisticated sims like GPL you control the car just as much with the +ADw-br+AD4- throttle as with your steering wheel, and the brake pedal should really +ADw-br+AD4- have some progression to it's resistance as it's much easier to modulate +ADw-br+AD4- the brake pressure rather than just brake pedal position, Nigel Nichol's +ADw-br+AD4- RRC unit (http://www.racesimcentral.net/) is just +ADw-br+AD4- fantastic this way and is also one of only 2 makers (I think) of top +ADw-br+AD4- hinged pedals, giving that little extra touch in the realism department +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-So, I've basically chosen a TSW with RRC pedals, although I'm sure that +ADw-br+AD4- if I could have afforded it, I would have owned an ECCI wheel, still +ADw-br+AD4- with RRC pedals though :-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-So you see, not easy to put that +ACY-quot+ADs-feel+ACY-quot+ADs- into words really, and I haven't +ADw-br+AD4- even ventured into the FF stuff yet, and with my limited experience of +ADw-br+AD4- FF, I'm not the person to talk about that either, I'm sitting that one +ADw-br+AD4- out for now... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Hope this helps +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Beers and cheers +ADw-br+AD4- (uncle) Goy +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-I built my own custom wheel that was very durable with high quality parts and it works +ADw-br+AD4- great, however after trying a Force Feedback wheel I will only drive with FF. It gives a +ADw-br+AD4- lot more realistic feel to driving with the top sim games (GPL,N3). I bought the LWFF +ADw-br+AD4- because it does not noticeably slow frame rate with USB, has good quick responding FF, and +ADw-br+AD4- I like the style. I will use my custom pedals though. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Lutrell +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Hi, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs-I am trying to understand what makes people choose one wheel over another +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-for their pc's. If you could please tell me what qualities (power, prestige, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-refined...) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-you associate with a good racing wheel it would help me out a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-lot. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Thanks, +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs-Doug +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
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Doug, +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-When I decided to purchase a FF wheel, I 1st read every single review +ADw-br+AD4- and or article I could find. Then I asked in both this newsgroup, +ACY-amp+ADs- GSB/VROC +ADw-br+AD4- chat room for their personal opinions on the two wheels I had narrowed my +ADw-br+AD4- choice down to. Knowing just who was giving you this information was just as +ADw-br+AD4- important as to what they were saying. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-The last but equally important issue for me,was being able to purchase +ADw-br+AD4- the wheel locally. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Joel Willstein +ADw-br+AD4-
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