rec.autos.simulators

by **Eric Gile** » Tue, 07 Jan 1997 04:00:00

Here are the results from both of my PC's using Tyan Titan III
motherboards. These were run by restarting in MS-DOS mode, and DMADIAG was
not used or needed in this configuration.
System 1:
Tyan Titan III Revision 3
166MHz Pentium
512K Pipeline Burst cache
16 MB EDO RAM

System 2:
Tyan Titan III Revision 5
90 MHz Pentium
256K Pipeline Burst cache
16 MB EDO RAM

System 1
System 2
Nominal FIFO performance:(MB/sec) 18.5
15.4

Nominal DMA performance:(MB/sec) 67.0
58.6

These probably aren't the best numbers out there, but they aren't too bad
for an older FX chipset motherboard.

Please respond if you have any more questions/comments.

Eric Giles

> >Tyan will
> >usually post BIOS and bus mastering updates fairly often. I understand
> that
> >the Tomcat I is one of the fastest Intel HX motherboards available. Both
> of
> >the PC's that are using the Tyan Titan III also have an Intergraph
> Reactor
> >installed, and I have had no problems. I would definately recommend this
> >combo.

> >Hope this helps-

> >Eric Giles

> Hi Eric, can you find the DMADIAG program and let us know what your
> results are??
> Thanks
> Dave Henrie

by **HandyAn** » Tue, 07 Jan 1997 04:00:00

You will be disappointed with the DMA transfer rates

-Andy

>Hi thanks to all your help so far....I am now leaning towards the Tyan
>Titan VX, esentially the same as the Tomcat. The titan has the VX
>chipset, supports SDRAM (although too expensive right now, but nice to
>upgrade later), costs $159 from TC computers. The main other difference
>that I noticed is that the Titan VX has only 4 ISA slots, rather than
>the 5 of the Tomcat (the only one that I seen that has 5 ISA slots).
> Does anyone have any input on the Titan VX over the Tomcat???
>I mainly use the machine for ***..Nascar2, Quake, Duke Nukem
>3-D..etc.I have the Intergraph Reactor 3-D video card
> thanks, chris
>--
> "He who fights with monsters might take care,
> lest he thereby become a monster.
> And if you gaze for long into an abyss,
> the abyss gazes also into you."
> -Freiedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, "Beyond Good and Evil"

> ******Chris and Lesley Kolling******

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by **David Sca** » Tue, 07 Jan 1997 04:00:00

>Here are the results from both of my PC's using Tyan Titan III
>motherboards. These were run by restarting in MS-DOS mode, and DMADIAG was
>not used or needed in this configuration.
>System 1:
>Tyan Titan III Revision 3
>166MHz Pentium
> System 1 System 2
> FIFO (MB/sec) 18.5 15.4

>DMA (MB/sec) 67.0 58.6
>Please respond if you have any more questions/comments.

I am interested in what BIOS you have in System 1. I also have a Tyan
Titan III (no idea what rev) and I MUST run DMADAIG or I get the
dreaded 'Your BIOS does not support DMA-Busmastering' in VQUAKE.
I have the Award BIOS. Your scores on system 1 are the same as what I
get with my P-133.

Thanks.
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by **Michael E. Carve** » Thu, 09 Jan 1997 04:00:00

: Here are the results from both of my PC's using Tyan Titan III
: motherboards. These were run by restarting in MS-DOS mode, and DMADIAG was
: not used or needed in this configuration.
: System 1:
: Tyan Titan III Revision 3
: 166MHz Pentium
: 512K Pipeline Burst cache
: 16 MB EDO RAM

: System 2:
: Tyan Titan III Revision 5
: 90 MHz Pentium
: 256K Pipeline Burst cache
: 16 MB EDO RAM

<snip>
: Please respond if you have any more questions/comments.

What BIOS and versions?

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by **Eric T. Busc** » Thu, 09 Jan 1997 04:00:00

Unless you plan to use SDRAM, there is no reason to get the slower VX
chipset. With regular EDO, the HX is a far superior board. This is
especially true of the ASUS which can use it's 83mhz bus speed to run a
P200 slightly overclocked at 208mhz (83mhzx2.5). This combo will blow
the doors of any conventional Pentium system. Also, the MMX Pentiums
are to be officially released tomorrow Jan 8th, although they've been
out in limited quantities for some time now. Their price is not much
more than the Pentium Classic (as little as $60 more from some
sources), so it doesn't make too much sense not to get one. You didn't
***yourself, but you could have gotten an overall better system with
a bit of research.

--

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by **keit** » Thu, 09 Jan 1997 04:00:00

boards are slower even with the SDRAM on board The HX is still faster! even
though it dont support the SDRAM> in fact the VX is a insult to the wonders
of SDRAM. hope i helped

by **Jason R Smi** » Thu, 09 Jan 1997 04:00:00

I just ordered a Tyan S1470 VX motherboard with 512 Pipeline Cache.
Did I***myself. I also ordered a p200 cpu

Thanks

>Here are the results from both of my PC's using Tyan Titan III
>motherboards. These were run by restarting in MS-DOS mode, and DMADIAG was
>not used or needed in this configuration.
>System 1:
>Tyan Titan III Revision 3
>166MHz Pentium
>512K Pipeline Burst cache
>16 MB EDO RAM
>System 2:
>Tyan Titan III Revision 5
>90 MHz Pentium
>256K Pipeline Burst cache
>16 MB EDO RAM
> System 1
> System 2
>Nominal FIFO performance:(MB/sec) 18.5
>15.4
>Nominal DMA performance:(MB/sec) 67.0
>58.6
>These probably aren't the best numbers out there, but they aren't too bad
>for an older FX chipset motherboard.
>Please respond if you have any more questions/comments.
>Eric Giles

>> >Tyan will
>> >usually post BIOS and bus mastering updates fairly often. I understand
>> that
>> >the Tomcat I is one of the fastest Intel HX motherboards available. Both
>> of
>> >the PC's that are using the Tyan Titan III also have an Intergraph
>> Reactor
>> >installed, and I have had no problems. I would definately recommend this
>> >combo.

>> >Hope this helps-

>> >Eric Giles

>> Hi Eric, can you find the DMADIAG program and let us know what your
>> results are??
>> Thanks
>> Dave Henrie

by **Eric T. Busc** » Thu, 09 Jan 1997 04:00:00

Yes the HX is still faster, but with SDRAM the VX is not appreciably
slower (especially since the Tomcat isn't a speed demon to begin with).
For someone looking to buy a new board + RAM now, it makes little
sense to keep buying the outdated EDO. Unfortunately to utilize SDRAM
(even minimally) it requires the cheap VX chipset. This is a good
intermediate step to the upcoming TX boards. If you happen to be in a
position to wait, the best course of action would be to get SDRAM and a
board using the TX chipset in March when they are released.

--

Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

by **Karim Khal** » Sat, 11 Jan 1997 04:00:00

Oh, BTW, about the Tyan v3.00 bios (for the S1469VX). I have noticed
that unlike the previous v1.10 it does a reset (i.e. cuts power) when
I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del which was a warm boot in all previous
motherboards/bioses I have seen. When I use a staged-write disk cache
in BIOS (ncache2, speedrv, hyperdisk) none of them has the time to
fully flush its cache at the three-fingers-salute before the bios
resets power - constant FAT corruption. Anyone else noticed this? Tyan
don't read e-mails.

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Sincerely, Karim

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by **dhen..** » Tue, 14 Jan 1997 04:00:00

>If you happen to be in a
>position to wait, the best course of action would be to get SDRAM and a
>board using the TX chipset in March when they are released.

>--
>Eric Busch

Hi Eric, is the TX chipset a 1st or 2nd generation chipset? It seems
that most of Intel's first chip offerings for the Pentium line have been
failures. The P5 didn't really seem to get the expected performance til
the Triton sets came out. So will this new TX line be just as sluggy as
the pre-Triton chips??
Dave Henrie

by **add..** » Fri, 24 Jan 1997 04:00:00

My Friend has a Tyan Tomcat II with P150, 512k cache 64mb ram and a
Matrox Mystique running NT workstation and GP2 runs in svga with sky

>Hi , i seen someone had mentioned something about TYAN motherboards..I
>currently have a Packard Bell P-100, get poor results with the
>Intergraph card..well just having the packard bell m/b is making sick..
>I am going to use my P-100 intel chip and want to buy a real
>motherboard, one that I can actually use and upgrade. I kinda have my
>eye on the Tyan Tomcat I- primarily because of the 5 ISA slots/4 PCI
>slots...also 4 Hard drives/ 2 flopy drives controller. Does anyone
>have any experience with this kind of mb?? espiecially with the
>Intergraph Reactor card??? Any other suggestions would also be
>appreciated!!

>--
> "He who fights with monsters might take care,
> lest he thereby become a monster.
> And if you gaze for long into an abyss,
> the abyss gazes also into you."
> -Freiedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, "Beyond Good and Evil"
> ******Chris and Lesley Kolling******

> ******HOME PAGE :http://shoga.wwa.com/~vampyre/ *****
> **LESLEY'S BARBIE PAGE: http://shoga.wwa.com/~vampyre/barbie.htm**

by **Marcus Keel** » Fri, 24 Jan 1997 04:00:00

I run a TomCat1 board and am very impressed. I've tried other boards
but have never come across such a reliable one as this. I run a P200
on it and have hung just about every peripheral known to man off it
without so much as a hiccup.

Currently I have a 3D Blaster Video Card installed and was also
impressed with the accelerated SVGA performance as well as the
Rendition enhanced games which frankly are wonderful.

>>Hi , i seen someone had mentioned something about TYAN motherboards..I
>>currently have a Packard Bell P-100, get poor results with the
>>Intergraph card..well just having the packard bell m/b is making sick..
>>I am going to use my P-100 intel chip and want to buy a real
>>motherboard, one that I can actually use and upgrade. I kinda have my
>>eye on the Tyan Tomcat I- primarily because of the 5 ISA slots/4 PCI
>>slots...also 4 Hard drives/ 2 flopy drives controller. Does anyone
>>have any experience with this kind of mb?? espiecially with the
>>Intergraph Reactor card??? Any other suggestions would also be
>>appreciated!!

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by **HandyAn** » Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:00:00

says...

>My Friend has a Tyan Tomcat II with P150, 512k cache 64mb ram and a
>Matrox Mystique running NT workstation and GP2 runs in svga with sky

>>Hi , i seen someone had mentioned something about TYAN motherboards..I
>>currently have a Packard Bell P-100, get poor results with the
>>Intergraph card..well just having the packard bell m/b is making sick..
>>I am going to use my P-100 intel chip and want to buy a real
>>motherboard, one that I can actually use and upgrade. I kinda have my
>>eye on the Tyan Tomcat I- primarily because of the 5 ISA slots/4 PCI
>>slots...also 4 Hard drives/ 2 flopy drives controller. Does anyone
>>have any experience with this kind of mb?? espiecially with the
>>Intergraph Reactor card??? Any other suggestions would also be
>>appreciated!!

I purchased a Tomcat3 and a Tyan VX. Both are pitiful as far as dma speeds.
I finally got a ASUS and am well pleased.

-Andy

by **HandyAn** » Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:00:00

>I run a TomCat1 board and am very impressed. I've tried other boards
>but have never come across such a reliable one as this. I run a P200
>on it and have hung just about every peripheral known to man off it
>without so much as a hiccup.

>Currently I have a 3D Blaster Video Card installed and was also
>impressed with the accelerated SVGA performance as well as the
>Rendition enhanced games which frankly are wonderful.

>>>Hi , i seen someone had mentioned something about TYAN motherboards..I
>>>currently have a Packard Bell P-100, get poor results with the
>>>Intergraph card..well just having the packard bell m/b is making sick..
>>>I am going to use my P-100 intel chip and want to buy a real
>>>motherboard, one that I can actually use and upgrade. I kinda have my
>>>eye on the Tyan Tomcat I- primarily because of the 5 ISA slots/4 PCI
>>>slots...also 4 Hard drives/ 2 flopy drives controller. Does anyone
>>>have any experience with this kind of mb?? espiecially with the
>>>Intergraph Reactor card??? Any other suggestions would also be
>>>appreciated!!

I had heard the Tomcat 1 works well. I wonder what they did differently on the
Tomcat3 (Dual) and the VX to make them suck with DMA access.

-Andy

by **Richard Hun** » Thu, 30 Jan 1997 04:00:00

> says...

> >My Friend has a Tyan Tomcat II with P150, 512k cache 64mb ram and a
> >Matrox Mystique running NT workstation and GP2 runs in svga with sky

> >>Hi , i seen someone had mentioned something about TYAN motherboards..I
> >>currently have a Packard Bell P-100, get poor results with the
> >>Intergraph card..well just having the packard bell m/b is making sick..
> >>I am going to use my P-100 intel chip and want to buy a real
> >>motherboard, one that I can actually use and upgrade. I kinda have my
> >>eye on the Tyan Tomcat I- primarily because of the 5 ISA slots/4 PCI
> >>slots...also 4 Hard drives/ 2 flopy drives controller. Does anyone
> >>have any experience with this kind of mb?? espiecially with the
> >>Intergraph Reactor card??? Any other suggestions would also be
> >>appreciated!!

> I purchased a Tomcat3 and a Tyan VX. Both are pitiful as far as dma speeds.
> I finally got a ASUS and am well pleased.

> -Andy

The ASUS is a good board. The trick is to put the biggest CPU you can
afford into it. I run a Freesus motherboard (I distribute it from
Seattle) with a Cyrix P166, 32 megs EDO, and the real secret... Matrox
Millenium 4 meg video. I can run all detail everywhere at 24-25 FPS+ or
run sky and get 23 with a few slow spots where the grandstands are. I
hve yet to see any machine do this well, but I haven't played with the
multi CPU MMX machines yet either. The Intergraph is a 2D slug, they
will tell you that. 3D is their world. Get a Matrox or the ATI pro
graphics turboTV with 4+ megs. its' darn close to the Matrox and you can
plug it into the big screen TV. Top it off with my new driver
controller unit (coming soon) and you begin to see why so many good
drivers die in this sport!.
Just a suggestion

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