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GPL: Imola

Greger Hut

GPL: Imola

by Greger Hut » Mon, 17 Jul 2000 04:00:00





>> In my newest Imola Lotus setup I use a 45/85 diff with 1 clutch. I
>> moved the brake balance forwards (53%) and this seems to work pretty
>> well.

>For you maybe. I still can't even imagine how you drive these GH2 setups.
>The moment I lift the throttle, the car swaps ends!

Applying a little throttle while braking helps. :) You need to change
you're driving style quite a lot for these new diff settings.

Well, that's an idea... I could try doing some "easy" setups.

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Thomas JS Brow

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by Thomas JS Brow » Mon, 17 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Actually Greger, it doesn't seem as though you've really changed your
style so much as adjusted it to accomodate a more open diff. I can see
that you're not understeering as much through the apex of your turns
although that seems to be how you keep the rear end from getting
loose...by sort of shoving the car through the apex at the limit of
understeer rather than oversteer. Must be hard finding just the right
angle to turn the wheel to keep from getting too much understeer.

What for?? haven't you already "been there, done that"??

TJSB

Piotr O.

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by Piotr O. » Tue, 18 Jul 2000 04:00:00



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Greger Hut

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by Greger Hut » Tue, 18 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Mostly my "style" has changed so that I use the pedals (especially
throttle) smoother than before and only make minor corrections with
the wheel when exiting a corner.

It's difficult to explain one's driving but I guess you're right about
the understeering bit. I enter the corners quite fast so that the car
will just start to understeer a little and then I back off the
throttle slightly. And of course the steering angle is important here.

Most important thing is the timing. Let's take Parabolica at Imola as
an example. Brakes, change down to 4th gear, turn-in and control the
under/oversteer with the throttle. Parabolica is a fast corner so you
never really have to back off the throttle completely. If you turn-in
too late, you need to back off the throttle more and maybe turn in
harder. Too early, and you need more throttle.

I never use excessive steering angles.

Well, yes. But if it helps someone else I might try doing that. :)

 - Greger
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Leo Landma

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by Leo Landma » Wed, 19 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Sigh, I was afraid you were going to say that <g>

I certainly wouldn't mind. Although changing the diff and clutches back to
more usual values (like 85/45 and 5) already helped a lot at Imola.

Bye,
Leo

TopLoade

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by TopLoade » Wed, 19 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Well, yes. But if it helps someone else I might try doing that. :)

Greger.....yes please that would help slow pokes......like me :))

Cheers, David
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Eldre

GPL: Imola

by Eldre » Fri, 21 Jul 2000 04:00:00


4th?!?  I shift all the way down to *2nd*...sheesh.

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by Ruud van Ga » Fri, 21 Jul 2000 04:00:00



>Huttu) writes:

>>Most important thing is the timing. Let's take Parabolica at Imola as
>>an example. Brakes, change down to 4th gear, turn-in and control the
>>under/oversteer with the throttle. Parabolica is a fast corner so you
>>never really have to back off the throttle completely. If you turn-in
>>too late, you need to back off the throttle more and maybe turn in
>>harder. Too early, and you need more throttle.

>4th?!?  I shift all the way down to *2nd*...sheesh.

Don't confuse the Parabolica at Imola with the one at Monza. :)
Or perhaps :( if you didn't overlook it.

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Peter Ive

GPL: Imola

by Peter Ive » Fri, 21 Jul 2000 04:00:00




>(Greger
>Huttu) writes:

>>Most important thing is the timing. Let's take Parabolica at Imola as
>>an example. Brakes, change down to 4th gear, turn-in and control the
>>under/oversteer with the throttle. Parabolica is a fast corner so you
>>never really have to back off the throttle completely. If you turn-in
>>too late, you need to back off the throttle more and maybe turn in
>>harder. Too early, and you need more throttle.

>4th?!?  I shift all the way down to *2nd*...sheesh.

I would have thought that most of us do Eldred.  Cripes!
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Peter Ive

GPL: Imola

by Peter Ive » Fri, 21 Jul 2000 04:00:00






>>(Greger
>>Huttu) writes:

>>>Most important thing is the timing. Let's take Parabolica at Imola as
>>>an example. Brakes, change down to 4th gear, turn-in and control the
>>>under/oversteer with the throttle. Parabolica is a fast corner so you
>>>never really have to back off the throttle completely. If you turn-in
>>>too late, you need to back off the throttle more and maybe turn in
>>>harder. Too early, and you need more throttle.

>>4th?!?  I shift all the way down to *2nd*...sheesh.

>I would have thought that most of us do Eldred.  Cripes!

Damn, looks like I should follow the thread more closely.  :)
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Eldre

GPL: Imola

by Eldre » Sat, 22 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Gaal) writes:


>>Huttu) writes:

>>>Most important thing is the timing. Let's take Parabolica at Imola as
>>>an example. Brakes, change down to 4th gear, turn-in and control the
>>>under/oversteer with the throttle. Parabolica is a fast corner so you
>>>never really have to back off the throttle completely. If you turn-in
>>>too late, you need to back off the throttle more and maybe turn in
>>>harder. Too early, and you need more throttle.

>>4th?!?  I shift all the way down to *2nd*...sheesh.

>Don't confuse the Parabolica at Imola with the one at Monza. :)
>Or perhaps :( if you didn't overlook it.

DOH!  I saw *Parabolica*, and assumed...well...<rats>
:::crawls back into the woodwork:::

Eldred
p.s. I'd probably have to shift to 2nd at Imola, TOO<g>
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Dave Henri

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by Dave Henri » Sat, 22 Jul 2000 04:00:00

  Just remember these simple rules Eldred:
A:  All Italian tracks have a Parabolica turn
b:  All British tracks have a maggots, becketts, and church turns
c:  All US tracks have Turn turns(turn 1, turn 2) etc
d:  All Brazillian tracks have a Senna Curve
e:  A Curva Grande is NOT a Taco Johns Chalupa or a Pamela Anderson.

  When cars in Austrailia spin, do they spin in the opposite direction of
those in the Northern hemisphere?
dave henrie

Olav K. Malm

GPL: Imola

by Olav K. Malm » Sat, 22 Jul 2000 04:00:00


>   Just remember these simple rules Eldred:
> A:  All Italian tracks have a Parabolica turn
> b:  All British tracks have a maggots, becketts, and church turns
> c:  All US tracks have Turn turns(turn 1, turn 2) etc
> d:  All Brazillian tracks have a Senna Curve
> e:  A Curva Grande is NOT a Taco Johns Chalupa or a Pamela Anderson.

>   When cars in Austrailia spin, do they spin in the opposite direction of
> those in the Northern hemisphere?

ROTFLMAO!

Thanks for ruining my keyboard with coffe :)

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Greger Hut

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by Greger Hut » Sat, 22 Jul 2000 04:00:00





>>Huttu) writes:

>>>Most important thing is the timing. Let's take Parabolica at Imola as
>>>an example. Brakes, change down to 4th gear, turn-in and control the
>>>under/oversteer with the throttle. Parabolica is a fast corner so you
>>>never really have to back off the throttle completely. If you turn-in
>>>too late, you need to back off the throttle more and maybe turn in
>>>harder. Too early, and you need more throttle.

>>4th?!?  I shift all the way down to *2nd*...sheesh.

>Don't confuse the Parabolica at Imola with the one at Monza. :)
>Or perhaps :( if you didn't overlook it.

Of course with Parabolica I meant *Tamburello* - the first corner at
Imola.  Sorry Eldred. :)

 - Greger
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Eldre

GPL: Imola

by Eldre » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00



>  Just remember these simple rules Eldred:
>A:  All Italian tracks have a Parabolica turn
>b:  All British tracks have a maggots, becketts, and church turns
>c:  All US tracks have Turn turns(turn 1, turn 2) etc
>d:  All Brazillian tracks have a Senna Curve
>e:  A Curva Grande is NOT a Taco Johns Chalupa or a Pamela Anderson.

LOL!
Pam *does* have some GRANDE curves...<g>

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