rec.autos.simulators

> You don't need a flame-retardant suit...the rest of us share your
> frustration with the utter futility of 95% of the pick-up races on WON.

> Marc.

> > I'm noticing that 1 or 2 out of 10 races I join in are actual races. The
> > other 8 or 9 are basically just demolition derbies. If I'm lucky, I join
> > a race with people who are way better than me. If I'm really lucky,
> > those groups sometimes race a few times in a row and share a little
> > knowledge. I'd rather lose to people with better skills than me than
> > lose to people who know how to wreck their cars "real nice" (and as many
> > others as they can).

> > I know I'm in luck when the host or someone else says "let's work
> > together".

> > What gets old fast are the people who don't qualify in the top six and
> > decide to just smash into everyone since they might not win anyway. I
> > see this from my perspective - ususally way back in the grid, and I
> > almost always end up having to steer around a wreck caused by someone
> > who just isn't interested in racing. Sure, that puts me ahead of them if
> > I make it around the wreck, but I'd rather earn it.

> > And there *is* a difference between not holding your line and swerving
> > around to stop faster cars from passing. And I'm not talking about some
> > bumping and trading paint, I'm talking about the people who rear end the
> > car in front of them at the green flag because they don't have any self
> > control, or immediately ramming the car next to them because they think
> > it will get them ahead at the start, or the people who rear end you at
> > 150 mph under the yellow flag, then jump out of the race and go join
> > another.

> > Look, this obviously isn't directed at the people who approach N3 to
> > actually race. But for those of you who keep intentionally smashing and
> > crashing, maybe you should consider Demolition Racers or whatever it's
> > called.

> > Seriously.

> > Andrew
> > (pulling on my flame-retardant suit)

> I'm noticing that 1 or 2 out of 10 races I join in are actual races. The
> other 8 or 9 are basically just demolition derbies. If I'm lucky, I join
> a race with people who are way better than me. If I'm really lucky,
> those groups sometimes race a few times in a row and share a little
> knowledge. I'd rather lose to people with better skills than me than
> lose to people who know how to wreck their cars "real nice" (and as many
> others as they can).

> I know I'm in luck when the host or someone else says "let's work
> together".

> What gets old fast are the people who don't qualify in the top six and
> decide to just smash into everyone since they might not win anyway. I
> see this from my perspective - ususally way back in the grid, and I
> almost always end up having to steer around a wreck caused by someone
> who just isn't interested in racing. Sure, that puts me ahead of them if
> I make it around the wreck, but I'd rather earn it.

> And there *is* a difference between not holding your line and swerving
> around to stop faster cars from passing. And I'm not talking about some
> bumping and trading paint, I'm talking about the people who rear end the
> car in front of them at the green flag because they don't have any self
> control, or immediately ramming the car next to them because they think
> it will get them ahead at the start, or the people who rear end you at
> 150 mph under the yellow flag, then jump out of the race and go join
> another.

> Look, this obviously isn't directed at the people who approach N3 to
> actually race. But for those of you who keep intentionally smashing and
> crashing, maybe you should consider Demolition Racers or whatever it's
> called.

> Seriously.

> Andrew
> (pulling on my flame-retardant suit)

> I'm noticing that 1 or 2 out of 10 races I join in are actual races.
The
> other 8 or 9 are basically just demolition derbies. If I'm lucky, I
join
> a race with people who are way better than me. If I'm really lucky,
> those groups sometimes race a few times in a row and share a little
> knowledge. I'd rather lose to people with better skills than me than
> lose to people who know how to wreck their cars "real nice" (and as
many
> others as they can).

> I know I'm in luck when the host or someone else says "let's work
> together".

> What gets old fast are the people who don't qualify in the top six and
> decide to just smash into everyone since they might not win anyway. I
> see this from my perspective - ususally way back in the grid, and I
> almost always end up having to steer around a wreck caused by someone
> who just isn't interested in racing. Sure, that puts me ahead of them
if
> I make it around the wreck, but I'd rather earn it.

> And there *is* a difference between not holding your line and swerving
> around to stop faster cars from passing. And I'm not talking about
some
> bumping and trading paint, I'm talking about the people who rear end
the
> car in front of them at the green flag because they don't have any
self
> control, or immediately ramming the car next to them because they
think
> it will get them ahead at the start, or the people who rear end you at
> 150 mph under the yellow flag, then jump out of the race and go join
> another.

> Look, this obviously isn't directed at the people who approach N3 to
> actually race. But for those of you who keep intentionally smashing
and
> crashing, maybe you should consider Demolition Racers or whatever it's
> called.

> Seriously.

> Andrew
> (pulling on my flame-retardant suit)

>Remember the first time you won an online race? I do!(I still have the
>replay) Online racing can be a VERY rewarding experience, so stick with
>it :)

> Good point(s)

> There is nothing more frustrating than wrecking on the first lap
> (especially when it's not your fault)

> There are several well written articles around about proper online
> racing etiquette. If people took the time to read them, online racing
> would be a much better experience for all of us.

> One thing I try to do is find races that are made up of mostly league
> members. (I had a fantastic race the other night with members of DP) As
> expected, these races tend to run much cleaner.

> I have also switched to automatic at Talledega. I find I'm in alot more
> control at the beginning of the race. It doesn't seem to make me
> any faster or slower, just more in control.

> I think it's too bad that many people give up online racing because of a
> few "bad apples" Remember, some wrecks occur for other reasons
> too like warping and inexperience(not intentional).

> Remember the first time you won an online race? I do!(I still have the
> replay) Online racing can be a VERY rewarding experience, so stick with
> it :)

> Ivan

> > I'm noticing that 1 or 2 out of 10 races I join in are actual races.
> The
> > other 8 or 9 are basically just demolition derbies. If I'm lucky, I
> join
> > a race with people who are way better than me. If I'm really lucky,
> > those groups sometimes race a few times in a row and share a little
> > knowledge. I'd rather lose to people with better skills than me than
> > lose to people who know how to wreck their cars "real nice" (and as
> many
> > others as they can).

> > I know I'm in luck when the host or someone else says "let's work
> > together".

> > What gets old fast are the people who don't qualify in the top six and
> > decide to just smash into everyone since they might not win anyway. I
> > see this from my perspective - ususally way back in the grid, and I
> > almost always end up having to steer around a wreck caused by someone
> > who just isn't interested in racing. Sure, that puts me ahead of them
> if
> > I make it around the wreck, but I'd rather earn it.

> > And there *is* a difference between not holding your line and swerving
> > around to stop faster cars from passing. And I'm not talking about
> some
> > bumping and trading paint, I'm talking about the people who rear end
> the
> > car in front of them at the green flag because they don't have any
> self
> > control, or immediately ramming the car next to them because they
> think
> > it will get them ahead at the start, or the people who rear end you at
> > 150 mph under the yellow flag, then jump out of the race and go join
> > another.

> > Look, this obviously isn't directed at the people who approach N3 to
> > actually race. But for those of you who keep intentionally smashing
> and
> > crashing, maybe you should consider Demolition Racers or whatever it's
> > called.

> > Seriously.

> > Andrew
> > (pulling on my flame-retardant suit)

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