rec.autos.simulators

Face it, youre just ***at football and the "we dont care" ***is a***poor excuse. I know your post is tongue in
cheek but a lot of people really believe that.

"Military intelligence, two words combined that can't make sense"

Mind you, the Brazilians seem to manage pretty well with bare feet and a
tennis ball as training for their youth. We could all learn a trick from
them, even if they do seem to struggle after an air trip to Europe. It'd
probably help if Ronaldo would lay off the in-flight peanuts. Chubby git.

Andrew McP

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Phil

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

I doubt that, if you include minor league, college and amateur
league play.

Like Indy Racing League and Champ Cars, we import a lot of our
soccer players, even more than baseball and basketball. So is
it really a USA soccer team?

But I think the orignal post was correct, USA (and I) just
don't care for soccer. Because of the rules, especially the
offsides rule, there's very little scoring. You can only take
so much of watching a bunch of guys kicking the ball back and
forth, without any progress. Baseball is boring enough, but
it's an excuse for many fans to drink beer and eat hotdogs,
since the game is so slow paced. At least with USA football,
basketball, and tennis, the pace of the game is quicker and
there's a sense of progress.

There doesn't seem to be much interest in sports in general
among the younger crowd in the USA, so don't expect much for
soccer, which has never been popular here in the USA. As
for the atheletes, college scholarships are mostly about
baseball, basketball, and football, so that's what the
atheletes target.

:  Once again the cycling world has proven that America would clean the
: world's clock in soccer if it interested anyone here.   After-all, we also
: have very little interests in cycling and so we sent over a guy for 7
years
: who only had one testicle.  All he did was crush what we were told were
the
: world's best bike riders.(and not one bike had a playing card stuck in the
: spokes for that cool 'motorbike' sound.)  Imagine, if America was really
: serious...you can bet we'd send over someone with two cojones.
:  So this year we again have to have somebody to ride in the Tour Day
: France.  Who did we come up with?   Just some broken down guy who will
have
: his hip replaced in a few weeks.  Oooh boy.  Our top skier is a druken
bum.
: yet he wins world championships.  sheesh.
:  So back to soccer.  I saw the trophy,  some dinky little bauble that
: resembles the brass covered popcorn box that MTV awards to movies.
: Americans like trophies that are huge.  UGLY huge.  Like that Stanley
Tools
: trophy they have in Hockey.  Or the incredibly garish Borg Warner trophy
: for the Indy 500.  See?   So with such a little ***y tiny trophy,  there
: is just no way to motivate the American athelete.  Therefore we'll have to
: continue throwing together a team of leftovers while the real atheletes
: play stick and ball sports.

Yeah, but still most of America could care less about cycling.  What Landis
accomplished on Thursday rivals anything Lance did on a single day.
Absolutely awesome, particularly for some one that rides in pain each mile
of every day.

IMHO, the only way America might warm to soccer is if the scoring was
changed.  Something like a kick from a certain sector of the field is one
point, but from another sector, it could be two, or maybe three points.  A
header could score two or more points depending on the sector of the field.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot, putting a pick on the goalie by another team
member would be legal :-)

Spoken like a true American.

: And for the record Soccer SUCKS !

So do people that figure out who they're replying to.

As I previously posted, a lot of true soccer fans want the offsides rule
changed, as this contribute the most to low scoring, and the holding of
a lead once a team gets one. Something like a blue line similar to hockey
would prevent a team's defense from moving up field to take advantage of
the offsides rule.

I wonder what soccer would be like if there were no offsides rule at all?

Crap, players would just hang around a goal and it would look like a rugby match with players hoofing it from one end to
the other. The same thing would happen in hockey, as soon as any player got the puck, they'd fire it the length of the
ice and there would be less scoring in both sports.

"Military intelligence, two words combined that can't make sense"

Its true if you account for all registered players of all ages.

"Military intelligence, two words combined that can't make sense"

Soccer accepts that life is often unfair. The popular US games *tend* to
be more about an ideal world in which the systematic application of hard
work, broken down into easily digested plays, will gain victory. If only
that were true in life!

Andrew McP

PS The main reason footy will never take off stateside is 45 mins
without adverts!

Andrew MacPherson enlightened us with:

But this is not entirely true, babysteps in the positive direction *is*
sometimes the only way one can succeed in life in general.  The analogy is
flawed when the steps are exagerated.  Some would argue that dealing with an
***ion for example *** or ***ism, is a HUGE step, but in the scheme
of things (compared to those NOT suffering from it) it is only one small
part.  Once you are off dope/***, you then have to fix other little
problems like, how you spend money, what your education level is, etc etc.
Much like a football team (even soccer) if half the team is off eating
donuts during the game (or as might be the case with ***ive mentality)
working for the the other team, I mean against your team, so to speak. well
it is hard to win at anything.  Secondly IMHO, the offsides rule, is like
mother hen government, which when it see there is a profit involved with
hard fought normal  venture (im not talking about cherry picking, or
standing around the goal OK? ) then they think they should stop it.

I can see the rule isn't bad one, but the blue line (which I never thougth
of before I guess) should be looked at, I mean speaking as a Dad with 3 kids
at one time or another in soccer over the past several years, I have seen
teams move the 2 defenders up to mid field lines to reject scoring, not by
skill but by forcing the officials into calling offsides, by just walking as
soon as they get beaten...  instead of ANY merit of thier abilities to
defend the goals.  I say if they want to move up a little fine, but when
they blatantly take advantage of the rule, and can just give up, and allow
the whistle to save their ass, that is where I say BULL-----SH_t

This doesn't happen in basketball, why would it in soccer. If you leave players
*** back around the opponents goal, then you're outmatched at your own goal.

Maybe the no offsides rule would also have to include a reduction in the number
of players on the field.

Anyway, the other propose, a fixed line for offsides, seems a lot better than
allowing a team's defensive line to determine what is offsides.