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GP2: With P II 300

OZ

GP2: With P II 300

by OZ » Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I read a note asking if GP2 will run on a P II 300.
While it is TRUE that the install program does NOT see the processor,
it reports none, it does run the install and does run the game.
In high res mode, with full frames per second selected it runs very
smoothly.

JEB "OZ"

Martin Simar

GP2: With P II 300

by Martin Simar » Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:00:00


>I read a note asking if GP2 will run on a P II 300.
>While it is TRUE that the install program does NOT see the processor,
>it reports none, it does run the install and does run the game.
>In high res mode, with full frames per second selected it runs very
>smoothly.

Oh yes, GP2 works with PII 300 and it works great (21 to 25 fps if I
remember, al options turned on at 640x480).

I did not have any problem with the install.

Bye!

Martin Simard

David Mocn

GP2: With P II 300

by David Mocn » Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:00:00


>I read a note asking if GP2 will run on a P II 300.
>While it is TRUE that the install program does NOT see the processor,
>it reports none, it does run the install and does run the game.
>In high res mode, with full frames per second selected it runs very
>smoothly.

>JEB "OZ"

I beg to differ. I have a P2 300 here with 64Mb Ram and a Mistique video card
and with all the options switched on and full detail (with the frames rate
set at 30) it runs at about 130% occupancy (not bad) but anytime something
happens (ie. smoke, spin or just other cars) the occupancy climbs up to 200%+.
And I am not mentioning replays either. To me this means that a P2 300 is not
enough to run it smoothly. Smoothly is when I get flamles (or close to it)
framerate most of the time. So I suggest you wait for P2 600 or someone who
can rewrite (not optimize... that's a lost cause) the code to run more
efficiently. Such a shame, I would love to play this at 30fps... as all sims
should.

David Mocnay

Jack Russe

GP2: With P II 300

by Jack Russe » Sat, 29 Nov 1997 04:00:00




>>I read a note asking if GP2 will run on a P II 300.
>>While it is TRUE that the install program does NOT see the processor,
>>it reports none, it does run the install and does run the game.
>>In high res mode, with full frames per second selected it runs very
>>smoothly.

>>JEB "OZ"

>I beg to differ. I have a P2 300 here with 64Mb Ram and a Mistique video card
>and with all the options switched on and full detail (with the frames rate
>set at 30) it runs at about 130% occupancy (not bad) but anytime something
>happens (ie. smoke, spin or just other cars) the occupancy climbs up to 200%+.
>And I am not mentioning replays either. To me this means that a P2 300 is not
>enough to run it smoothly. Smoothly is when I get flamles (or close to it)
>framerate most of the time. So I suggest you wait for P2 600 or someone who
>can rewrite (not optimize... that's a lost cause) the code to run more
>efficiently. Such a shame, I would love to play this at 30fps... as all sims
>should.

>David Mocnay

If only Geoff Crammond had not programmed the "o" key in GP2, you'd
have one less thing to worry about.

Jack Russell

rafael medeiro

GP2: With P II 300

by rafael medeiro » Sat, 29 Nov 1997 04:00:00

sorry but the frame rate  cannot be set to 30fps(max 25.6fps)

Randy Magrud

GP2: With P II 300

by Randy Magrud » Sat, 29 Nov 1997 04:00:00


>>I beg to differ. I have a P2 300 here with 64Mb Ram and a Mistique video card
>and with all the options switched on and full detail (with the frames rate
>set at 30) it runs at about 130% occupancy (not bad) but anytime something
>happens (ie. smoke, spin or just other cars) the occupancy climbs up to 200%+.
>And I am not mentioning replays either. To me this means that a P2 300 is not
>enough to run it smoothly. Smoothly is when I get flamles (or close to it)
>framerate most of the time. So I suggest you wait for P2 600 or someone who
>can rewrite (not optimize... that's a lost cause) the code to run more
>efficiently. Such a shame, I would love to play this at 30fps... as all sims
>should.

Is your Mystique an AGP card?  I just got a Dell P2 300 with the STB
Velocity 128 AGP.  I've tried swapping the video board out for a PCI
Hercules Stingray 128/3D (PCI/Voodoo rush) just to see what effect it
had.  Wow.  3DFX came off looking bad, but I suspect that its more the
AGP than anything else.  With the AGP board plugged in running
Direct3D, I can actually run full-field races in CART Precision Racing
with everything turned on at 23-30 fps depending upon traffic.  GP2
ran very quickly as well, though I haven't done a lot of testing on
the starting grid to see what happens there.

Randy

Ken

GP2: With P II 300

by Ken » Sun, 30 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I have the same model of Dell and STB AGP as yours,  and added a Canopus Pure 3dfx
to get the best of both worlds. As far as framerates go the 2 cards are dead even!



> >>I beg to differ. I have a P2 300 here with 64Mb Ram and a Mistique video card
> >and with all the options switched on and full detail (with the frames rate
> >set at 30) it runs at about 130% occupancy (not bad) but anytime something
> >happens (ie. smoke, spin or just other cars) the occupancy climbs up to 200%+.
> >And I am not mentioning replays either. To me this means that a P2 300 is not
> >enough to run it smoothly. Smoothly is when I get flamles (or close to it)
> >framerate most of the time. So I suggest you wait for P2 600 or someone who
> >can rewrite (not optimize... that's a lost cause) the code to run more
> >efficiently. Such a shame, I would love to play this at 30fps... as all sims
> >should.

> Is your Mystique an AGP card?  I just got a Dell P2 300 with the STB
> Velocity 128 AGP.  I've tried swapping the video board out for a PCI
> Hercules Stingray 128/3D (PCI/Voodoo rush) just to see what effect it
> had.  Wow.  3DFX came off looking bad, but I suspect that its more the
> AGP than anything else.  With the AGP board plugged in running
> Direct3D, I can actually run full-field races in CART Precision Racing
> with everything turned on at 23-30 fps depending upon traffic.  GP2
> ran very quickly as well, though I haven't done a lot of testing on
> the starting grid to see what happens there.

> Randy

DM

GP2: With P II 300

by DM » Tue, 02 Dec 1997 04:00:00

David,

I cannot understand why you are finding this. I have a Dell PII 266 with 4Mb
Millennium and 64Mb RAM. GP2 runs at between 85 & 100% processor occupancy
with everything on in SVGA mode. I've seen the odd peak at 124 for a
fleeting instant whilst ploughing through a gravel trap trying to test your
assertions but otherwise would say the 266 handles GP2 without a bother.
Therefore, one would assume your PII 300 should cruise comfortably. However,
there may be another factor (culprit) namely the Mystique. Any chance the
difference is down to the abilities of the Mystique vv Millennium? I don't
know (as I've no Mystique to test with) just suggesting a possible cause.

Regards
DM

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>>I read a note asking if GP2 will run on a P II 300.
>>While it is TRUE that the install program does NOT see the processor,
>>it reports none, it does run the install and does run the game.
>>In high res mode, with full frames per second selected it runs very
>>smoothly.

>>JEB "OZ"

>I beg to differ. I have a P2 300 here with 64Mb Ram and a Mistique video
card
>and with all the options switched on and full detail (with the frames rate
>set at 30) it runs at about 130% occupancy (not bad) but anytime something
>happens (ie. smoke, spin or just other cars) the occupancy climbs up to
200%+.
>And I am not mentioning replays either. To me this means that a P2 300 is
not
>enough to run it smoothly. Smoothly is when I get flamles (or close to it)
>framerate most of the time.

Clancy Wild

GP2: With P II 300

by Clancy Wild » Tue, 02 Dec 1997 04:00:00


> I read a note asking if GP2 will run on a P II 300.
> While it is TRUE that the install program does NOT see the processor,
> it reports none, it does run the install and does run the game.
> In high res mode, with full frames per second selected it runs very
> smoothly.

> JEB "OZ"

Say, are you the same "OZ" who claimed when GP2 was released,
that it ran smooth as butter with all details on in hires mode
on your Pent 200?
Guess your still eating that Mexican grass in your enchiladas
cuz even on a PII 300 it still runs like crap! Go buy UBI's
F1 with 3dfx support and see what a great framerate you get
with all details on and with all 21 cars on the track!!!!!!

Cya, C

Craig March

GP2: With P II 300

by Craig March » Thu, 04 Dec 1997 04:00:00

I'm using a PII 266mhz and at first thought GP2 wouldn't run, because I had
seen the concerns here, and I tried to run it and it locked up. I just
restored my previous version from a tape backup, and realized that my sound
settings were different because I re-installed Win95, so I did setup again,
and works fine. Still can't turn EVERYthing on, but far better than my
P5-200!!


>David,

>I cannot understand why you are finding this. I have a Dell PII 266 with
4Mb
>Millennium and 64Mb RAM. GP2 runs at between 85 & 100% processor occupancy
>with everything on in SVGA mode. I've seen the odd peak at 124 for a
>fleeting instant whilst ploughing through a gravel trap trying to test your
>assertions but otherwise would say the 266 handles GP2 without a bother.
>Therefore, one would assume your PII 300 should cruise comfortably.
However,
>there may be another factor (culprit) namely the Mystique. Any chance the
>difference is down to the abilities of the Mystique vv Millennium? I don't
>know (as I've no Mystique to test with) just suggesting a possible cause.

>Regards
>DM

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>>>I read a note asking if GP2 will run on a P II 300.
>>>While it is TRUE that the install program does NOT see the processor,
>>>it reports none, it does run the install and does run the game.
>>>In high res mode, with full frames per second selected it runs very
>>>smoothly.

>>>JEB "OZ"

>>I beg to differ. I have a P2 300 here with 64Mb Ram and a Mistique video
>card
>>and with all the options switched on and full detail (with the frames rate
>>set at 30) it runs at about 130% occupancy (not bad) but anytime something
>>happens (ie. smoke, spin or just other cars) the occupancy climbs up to
>200%+.
>>And I am not mentioning replays either. To me this means that a P2 300 is
>not
>>enough to run it smoothly. Smoothly is when I get flamles (or close to it)
>>framerate most of the time.

David Mocn

GP2: With P II 300

by David Mocn » Fri, 05 Dec 1997 04:00:00





>>>I read a note asking if GP2 will run on a P II 300.
>>>While it is TRUE that the install program does NOT see the processor,
>>>it reports none, it does run the install and does run the game.
>>>In high res mode, with full frames per second selected it runs very
>>>smoothly.

>>>JEB "OZ"

>>I beg to differ. I have a P2 300 here with 64Mb Ram and a Mistique video card
>>and with all the options switched on and full detail (with the frames rate
>>set at 30) it runs at about 130% occupancy (not bad) but anytime something
>>happens (ie. smoke, spin or just other cars) the occupancy climbs up to 200%+.

>>And I am not mentioning replays either. To me this means that a P2 300 is not
>>enough to run it smoothly. Smoothly is when I get flamles (or close to it)
>>framerate most of the time. So I suggest you wait for P2 600 or someone who
>>can rewrite (not optimize... that's a lost cause) the code to run more
>>efficiently. Such a shame, I would love to play this at 30fps... as all sims
>>should.

>>David Mocnay

>If only Geoff Crammond had not programmed the "o" key in GP2, you'd
>have one less thing to worry about.

>Jack Russell

You don't need the "o" key to notice the slowdowns. If only Geoff Crammond
wrote a dynamic 3d engine that plays in real time and not his "dinamic" time
:)
David Mocnay
OZ

GP2: With P II 300

by OZ » Fri, 05 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Yup, same guy, same story. On this P II 300, it does, indeed, run very
smoothly with full detail on...go figure.
BTW, I still have the PPro 200 on the other table and it still runs GP2,
with the detail lowered as was noted at the time, very smoothly too, cuz we
waz just racing it serial .....go figure II.....

JEB "OZ"



>> I read a note asking if GP2 will run on a P II 300.
>> While it is TRUE that the install program does NOT see the processor,
>> it reports none, it does run the install and does run the game.
>> In high res mode, with full frames per second selected it runs very
>> smoothly.

>> JEB "OZ"

>Say, are you the same "OZ" who claimed when GP2 was released,
>that it ran smooth as butter with all details on in hires mode
>on your Pent 200?
>Guess your still eating that Mexican grass in your enchiladas
>cuz even on a PII 300 it still runs like crap! Go buy UBI's
>F1 with 3dfx support and see what a great framerate you get
>with all details on and with all 21 cars on the track!!!!!!

>Cya, C


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