rec.autos.simulators

TD4 vs. NFS2SE

Mark Smi

TD4 vs. NFS2SE

by Mark Smi » Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I see that EB has both of these titles now.
I've played the demos for each and they seem rather "arcadish".
Can anyone give any feedback on the full product of either title.

I like the idea of the muscle cars in TD4 and I DON'T like the idea of no
***pit in 3Dfx NFS2SE.  NFS seems to offer on one new track while charging me
another $40 for a 3Dfx patch that I should be able to download for FREE.

TD4 looks like it may be promising.  Any comparisons of PC and PSX versions
would be welcome too.

Matt Star

TD4 vs. NFS2SE

by Matt Star » Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I have both.

NFS2 SE has no***pit in 3dfx mode.  It has neutral, and it is a little smoother.
NFS2 SE has more realistic car performance.  No downloadable cars or tracks. Lame
brake lights and good menus.  Cars are modeled with their real wheels. Brakes
actually lock up on NFS2 SE.

TD4 has a***pit view, but with no working guages.  No neutral and is not as
smooth as NFS2 SE.  The steering is too sensitive.  Car performance is not
correct.  A '98 Corvette does 11s in the quarter, when in real life the '98
Corvette will do low 13s on a good day.  Has downloadable cars and tracks for
FREE!  Cool brake lights.  Menus suck. Cars modeled with generic 5 star wheels on
all cars.  Nice***pit view with unfunctional guages, but the steering wheel
moves (would have like working guages better).  Brakes do not lock up on any cars
(I guess all cars have ABS)

Matt


> I see that EB has both of these titles now.
> I've played the demos for each and they seem rather "arcadish".
> Can anyone give any feedback on the full product of either title.

> I like the idea of the muscle cars in TD4 and I DON'T like the idea of no
>***pit in 3Dfx NFS2SE.  NFS seems to offer on one new track while charging me
> another $40 for a 3Dfx patch that I should be able to download for FREE.

> TD4 looks like it may be promising.  Any comparisons of PC and PSX versions
> would be welcome too.

John Cookso

TD4 vs. NFS2SE

by John Cookso » Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I was nervous about buying NFS2 SE because of the 'NO***PIT' view
and I felt peeved about having to pay again as I already own
NFS1 NFS1-SE and NFS2 (NFS2 was awful BTW).

However I got the game and I have to say it is WONDERFUL.
Using a 3dfx card it is the best arcade style racer I have ever seen.
Everything is absolutely perfect and it runs smooth as silk. Not even
any of those typical Win95 swap file hiccups and stutters.

My hat comes off to whoever developed this one for EA and because
of this games off-the-scale quality, I don't begrudge them a penny.
They deserve all the money they get for this superb effort.

You get both a 3dfx glide version and a non-3D version on the CD
The non-3D version has a***pit view and even this is a lot better
than the old NFS2 (Smoother with better driving model).
The controller support and customisation options are also a model for
any racing game developer (certainly this area is a big let down
in Test Drive 4).

If you have a 3dfx card, you will not regret getting this game.

John Cookson

RA

TD4 vs. NFS2SE

by RA » Sun, 23 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I just bought TD4 today ...played with for a few hours, & on my system
(P166mmx, R3D, 48 megs)  no comparison to NFS2SE.

TD4  runs very choppy making it near impossible to control, graphics
draw ahead are so noticeable that what looks like a straight road
turns into a 90 barely in time to react. It has a dash view but no
gauges work and my red cars dash is bright blue. Night driving is
maddening sorta like driving with a desk lamp over your car... you
can't see the traffic until you wack'm ... the cars have no lights.
Your car has brake lights but I didn't notice that traffic or
opponents did. Another thing I find annoying is the sparks that fly
when you hit something are very distinctive rather large orange
triangles.

But even if my CPU could handle the graphics, the game has a very
cumbersome menu system, doesn't remember setups.. you have to select
your controller every time you start the game. The Drag Race game
gives you one run, then the results, then loads you back to the main
screen. It takes 11 sec for the race and about a minute of menu
hopping to race again. My mouse doesn't work on the menus (?) so I
have to use the arrow keys to move between selections.

Anyway...  my experience is the game sucks big time unless I'm doing
something drastically wrong. While both games are for sure arcade
racers, NFS2SE runs rings around TD4.. if it only had the dash view
(with working gauges).

If anyone can provide tips to make this thing run on my system it
might save me a trip back to the store Monday.

RAH


>> I see that EB has both of these titles now.
>> I've played the demos for each and they seem rather "arcadish".
>> Can anyone give any feedback on the full product of either title.

>> I like the idea of the muscle cars in TD4 and I DON'T like the idea of no
>>***pit in 3Dfx NFS2SE.  NFS seems to offer on one new track while charging me
>> another $40 for a 3Dfx patch that I should be able to download for FREE.

>> TD4 looks like it may be promising.  Any comparisons of PC and PSX versions
>> would be welcome too.

Destroy-Derek Struy

TD4 vs. NFS2SE

by Destroy-Derek Struy » Sun, 23 Nov 1997 04:00:00


> If anyone can provide tips to make this thing run on my system it
> might save me a trip back to the store Monday.

Buy a 3dfx/Voodoo vid card. :) You'll need one sometime anyway, so might
as well enjoy it now.
Destroy-Derek Struy

TD4 vs. NFS2SE

by Destroy-Derek Struy » Sun, 23 Nov 1997 04:00:00


> If anyone can provide tips to make this thing run on my system it
> might save me a trip back to the store Monday.

Buy a 3dfx/Voodoo 3d vid card. :) You'll need one sometime anyway, so
might as well enjoy it now.
Fusi

TD4 vs. NFS2SE

by Fusi » Sun, 23 Nov 1997 04:00:00


>Buy a 3dfx/Voodoo vid card. :) You'll need one sometime anyway, so might
>as well enjoy it now.

Read his post again.... R3D...

--                        


JustM

TD4 vs. NFS2SE

by JustM » Sun, 23 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Tried the TD4 Demo and wasnt impressed. NFS2SE (w/3dfx) gets my vote by far.


>Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:17:19 GMT

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>>TD4 looks like it may be promising.

>I hoped so too. The sad truth is - it sucks. It's just so incredibly
>boring.

Leho Kra

TD4 vs. NFS2SE

by Leho Kra » Sun, 23 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:17:19 GMT

About: TD4 vs. NFS2SE
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I hoped so too. The sad truth is - it sucks. It's just so incredibly
boring.

Kevi

TD4 vs. NFS2SE

by Kevi » Sun, 23 Nov 1997 04:00:00



> > If anyone can provide tips to make this thing run on my system it
> > might save me a trip back to the store Monday.

> Buy a 3dfx/Voodoo 3d vid card. :) You'll need one sometime anyway, so
> might as well enjoy it now.

He's right.  The difference between the normal version and the 3dfx
version is like night and day.  Even with 3dfx, the game still sucks.
Great idea, bad execution.
Leho Kra

TD4 vs. NFS2SE

by Leho Kra » Sun, 23 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:22:32 GMT

About: Re: TD4 vs. NFS2SE
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You aren't doing anything wrong. TD4 is just another big letdown. It's
like half of the game is done, but then the makers got tired.


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