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Hosting N4 with DSL

T. Wortm

Hosting N4 with DSL

by T. Wortm » Fri, 12 Oct 2001 06:56:24

Has anyone had experience with hosting N4 with a 768k DSL line? We
have our server sitting at an ISP right now. But a good deal has came
available for this DSL line, saving a good bit of money. But if we
can't host 20-25 cars with quality, it won't be worth it. Thanks for
any input.
Paul

Hosting N4 with DSL

by Paul » Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:13:27

Hosting 25 cars in N4 will require 525kbs of throughput.  Assuming your DSL
line has at least 384kbs upload, you should be fine.  The drawback to
hosting via a DSL line is that the line can be less stable than a co-located
server.  But... it's certainly cheaper. :-)

-Paul
Western States Racing League
www.wsrlracing.com


Destro

Hosting N4 with DSL

by Destro » Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:40:49

I have a medium to medium poor connect with DSL and can only host
dedicated about 8 ppl with consistant smoothness. This game is a
bandwidth hog.

>Has anyone had experience with hosting N4 with a 768k DSL line? We
>have our server sitting at an ISP right now. But a good deal has came
>available for this DSL line, saving a good bit of money. But if we
>can't host 20-25 cars with quality, it won't be worth it. Thanks for
>any input.

DB

Hosting N4 with DSL

by DB » Fri, 12 Oct 2001 08:05:03

Tim,

  I can host 20+ just fine on my dsl line, I have had as many as 30 on. . At
www.dslreports.com my speed measures usually about 500kbps down
and 400kbps up.
  I am curious though as to how much you pay to locate a server at an ISP
and do they charge for actual bandwidth/bytes, How does that work  ?
  Also will they let you use software like pcanywhere or vnc to control
you're remote
server. Also If you're server happens to crash 'windows machine ya know' do
they have
folks on site that can reset for you.

thanks
-Dave


Tom Olive

Hosting N4 with DSL

by Tom Olive » Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:42:27

For the record we never had any success at all with a DSL host in N3 for
more than about 10 people no matter what bandwidth was the host had. We
never even tried it in N4.

This can vary widely. For a typical N4 collocated server you're not talking
about a lot of bandwidth (in real internet server terms) so you can get the
cheaper rates. In my experience you get what you pay for. Great ISP sites
with a top notch backbone and routers demand more money. You can get it from
$50 a month up to $1000 or more depending on the ISP. The average for a
pretty good one is about $100-$400 a month depending on where you locate it.
Yes, almost all of them charge by bandwidth, but again that's not usually an
issue for N4 unless you run a ton of servers or do other things on the
server that cause the bandwidth usage to go up.

Yes.

Yes. Most sites either automatically reboot for you, have a web site to do
it, or do it after you call them.

Tom


> Tim,

>   I can host 20+ just fine on my dsl line, I have had as many as 30 on. .
At
> www.dslreports.com my speed measures usually about 500kbps down
> and 400kbps up.
>   I am curious though as to how much you pay to locate a server at an ISP
> and do they charge for actual bandwidth/bytes, How does that work  ?
>   Also will they let you use software like pcanywhere or vnc to control
> you're remote
> server. Also If you're server happens to crash 'windows machine ya know'
do
> they have
> folks on site that can reset for you.

> thanks
> -Dave



> > Has anyone had experience with hosting N4 with a 768k DSL line? We
> > have our server sitting at an ISP right now. But a good deal has came
> > available for this DSL line, saving a good bit of money. But if we
> > can't host 20-25 cars with quality, it won't be worth it. Thanks for
> > any input.

DB

Hosting N4 with DSL

by DB » Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:52:36

Thanks for the answers Tom :)

  I think I am luckier than most in that I'm getting SDSL like quality
because my
ISP services small cities but seems to have a nice fat pipe to the backbone.
I
guess if I where replacing a ISP located server I would definitely look into
SDSL service but that probably wouldn't be much of a money savings.

Good luck to ya Tim,  Thanks again Tom
-Dave


> For the record we never had any success at all with a DSL host in N3 for
> more than about 10 people no matter what bandwidth was the host had. We
> never even tried it in N4.

> >   I am curious though as to how much you pay to locate a server at an
ISP
> > and do they charge for actual bandwidth/bytes, How does that work  ?

> This can vary widely. For a typical N4 collocated server you're not
talking
> about a lot of bandwidth (in real internet server terms) so you can get
the
> cheaper rates. In my experience you get what you pay for. Great ISP sites
> with a top notch backbone and routers demand more money. You can get it
from
> $50 a month up to $1000 or more depending on the ISP. The average for a
> pretty good one is about $100-$400 a month depending on where you locate
it.
> Yes, almost all of them charge by bandwidth, but again that's not usually
an
> issue for N4 unless you run a ton of servers or do other things on the
> server that cause the bandwidth usage to go up.

> >   Also will they let you use software like pcanywhere or vnc to control
> > you're remote
> > server.

> Yes.

> >>Also If you're server happens to crash 'windows machine ya know' do
> > they have
> > folks on site that can reset for you.<<

> Yes. Most sites either automatically reboot for you, have a web site to do
> it, or do it after you call them.

> Tom



> > Tim,

> >   I can host 20+ just fine on my dsl line, I have had as many as 30 on.
.
> At
> > www.dslreports.com my speed measures usually about 500kbps down
> > and 400kbps up.
> >   I am curious though as to how much you pay to locate a server at an
ISP
> > and do they charge for actual bandwidth/bytes, How does that work  ?
> >   Also will they let you use software like pcanywhere or vnc to control
> > you're remote
> > server. Also If you're server happens to crash 'windows machine ya know'
> do
> > they have
> > folks on site that can reset for you.

> > thanks
> > -Dave



> > > Has anyone had experience with hosting N4 with a 768k DSL line? We
> > > have our server sitting at an ISP right now. But a good deal has came
> > > available for this DSL line, saving a good bit of money. But if we
> > > can't host 20-25 cars with quality, it won't be worth it. Thanks for
> > > any input.

JoeZ

Hosting N4 with DSL

by JoeZ » Sat, 13 Oct 2001 02:23:25

My ADSL with SWBell has actually been quite good.
1.5 down/128K up.

I've hosted 5 on N4 with no problems. Behind a hardware
firewall too. I need to host a race sometime for more and see
what happens I guess. Anyone up for a race tonight?



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