rec.autos.simulators

by **Suppor** » Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:00:00

...who would -love- to see a finished Suzuka (and a banked Monza...8^)...) and who
feels embarassed every time some bonehead pulls a stunt like this. Might be a
Canadian thing...

J. P. Hovercraft

> Hear, hear!

> J. P. Hovercraft, a legitimate converter owner and fervent enjoyer of all things
> Noonan.

> > > This is one of my early versions of suzuka. I have given no permission for
> > this track
> > > to be posted but the site concerned, and seemingly their ISP, couldn't
> > care less about
> > > copyrights.

> > > I have a much newer and better version of Suzuka but it's been rendered
> > pointless by
> > > this posting - I presume that was the intention.

> > > Regards

> > > Dave Noonan

> > Dave, There is nothing pointless about your tracks...let the idiots have
> > their day, the rest of us are more than happy to wait for the finished
> > product.

> > And thanks again for Imola, I LOVE IT!

> > --
> > don

> > New Programmes for the Converted GPL Tracks
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

by **Thorsten Ruete** » Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Why is it pointless, David? Everyone knows that the tracks at that
French website are pirated. A finished Suzuka from you would be
delicous!!! Or did you want to charge money for it? In that case the
premature posting on that website would indeed be very annoying for you...

Thanks for the excellent Imola rendition, btw. :)

-Thorsten Rueter

> This is one of my early versions of suzuka. I have given no permission for
this track
> to be posted but the site concerned, and seemingly their ISP, couldn't
care less about
> copyrights.

> I have a much newer and better version of Suzuka but it's been rendered
pointless by
> this posting - I presume that was the intention.

> Regards

> Dave Noonan

> > Hi all.

> > Apparently no one noticed that a "pre-beta" version of Suzuka for GPL
> > is available at the French Pits...

> > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/thefrenchpits/index2.html

> > I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know what it's worth.

> > Folco

> > ========================================================================
> > Folco Banfi -- Universite de Fribourg -- Institut d'Informatique
> > Chemin du Musee 3 - 1700 Fribourg - Switzerland - Tel.+41.26.300.84.75

> > ========================================================================
> > Pet Shop Boys tribute CD: http://www-iiuf.unifr.ch/~banfi/attribute
> > Featured in the links section of WinAmp 2.06!

by **Jason Mond** » Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Hi David,

I heard someone was working on Suzuka, but didn't know it was you. Once I saw
all the converted tracks posted, I thought something was fishy. I will not
unzip, nor install this pirated copy of Suzuka on the YouBeTheBoss server. It
will be worth the wait for the real thing.

Jason.

> Dave, I hope you reconsider your decision to pull the plug this one.

> As I stated earlier on, this site was the one that posted the hacked
> versions of the US tracks. I'm sure once the finished article appears no one
> will even think about the beta.

> I suggest we collectively bouycott this site. I don't believe how people
> could submit hotlaps to a creep like this.

> MS

> > This is one of my early versions of suzuka. I have given no permission for
> this track
> > to be posted but the site concerned, and seemingly their ISP, couldn't
> care less about
> > copyrights.

> > I have a much newer and better version of Suzuka but it's been rendered
> pointless by
> > this posting - I presume that was the intention.

> > Regards

> > Dave Noonan

> > > Hi all.

> > > Apparently no one noticed that a "pre-beta" version of Suzuka for GPL
> > > is available at the [snip]

--
Jason Monds
http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL)
http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project
(Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

by **Morgan V. Wooten** » Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Indubitably! We (I, at least) love your work! Imola is fantastic. Don't be
discouraged by the idiots!

--
-----------------------------------
Morgan Vincent Wooten

http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/
-----------------------------------

> > This is one of my early versions of suzuka. I have given no permission for
> this track
> > to be posted but the site concerned, and seemingly their ISP, couldn't
> care less about
> > copyrights.

> > I have a much newer and better version of Suzuka but it's been rendered
> pointless by
> > this posting - I presume that was the intention.

> > Regards

> > Dave Noonan

> Dave, There is nothing pointless about your tracks...let the idiots have
> their day, the rest of us are more than happy to wait for the finished
> product.

> And thanks again for Imola, I LOVE IT!

> --
> don

> New Programmes for the Converted GPL Tracks
> http://www.ianparker1.freeserve.co.uk/gpl/index.html

by **Arto Wik** » Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Dear David (and all the r.a.s),

you wrote about the "French Pits"' copyright violation:

I do really hope three things:

1) This kind of copyright violations should be prevented. Did you ask
the web site provider already?

2) We all in r.a.s. should NOT use this kind of material. And we
should exclude all the pages and persons connected with copyright
violations.

3) And last but not least: I do really hope that you will not quit
making your utterly excellent work for the GPL community!

Many thanks for the latest gem, the Imola track!

Arto

by **Uncle Feste** » Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:00:00

> I suggest we collectively bouycott this site. I don't believe how people
> could submit hotlaps to a creep like this.

I'll second that!

--
Chuck Kandler

A man is no less a Slave just because he is
allowed to choose a new Master every four years.

by **Jim Er** » Sat, 15 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I have a Suzuka track I run in N3, though it is an older N2 track. It
is complete including bulidings, background, etc. Can't remember where I
found it at, though.

2_Slow

by **Jan Verschuere** » Sun, 16 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Let it go Dave, rifraf like that is not worth the time of day.

If you want to keep releasing 3rd Party add-ons for games (be it as freeware
or commercially), you're going to have to focus your energy on the people
who actually appreciate what you're doing. They are many.

I think it's no exaggeration to say everyone here is prepared to patiently
wait for you to declare the track finished to aquire and use it.

Jan.
=---

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Sun, 16 Jul 2000 04:00:00

According to the site owner he has permission from Sierra France.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

> woah....
> are those tracks up on the frenchpits for real? can they put that stuff
up
> there for download?!

> Martyn_D

> > it doesnt work.

> > > Hi all.

> > > Apparently no one noticed that a "pre-beta" version of Suzuka for GPL
> > > is available at the French Pits...

> > > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/thefrenchpits/index2.html

> > > I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know what it's worth.

> > > Folco

========================================================================
Tel.+41.26.300.84.75
========================================================================
http://www-iiuf.unifr.ch/~banfi/attribute

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Sun, 16 Jul 2000 04:00:00

NO, David! NO!
Your Suzuka is NOT "rendered pointless" by this person!

If you can complete it in the same manner as O-ring, Brands and Imola, do
you really think that anyomne would even be bothered looking at what is on
this French site?

Please don't let this idiot deter you from your projects.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

> This is one of my early versions of suzuka. I have given no permission for
this track
> to be posted but the site concerned, and seemingly their ISP, couldn't
care less about
> copyrights.

> I have a much newer and better version of Suzuka but it's been rendered
pointless by
> this posting - I presume that was the intention.

> Regards

> Dave Noonan

> > Hi all.

> > Apparently no one noticed that a "pre-beta" version of Suzuka for GPL
> > is available at the French Pits...

> > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/thefrenchpits/index2.html

> > I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know what it's worth.

> > Folco

> > ========================================================================
> > Folco Banfi -- Universite de Fribourg -- Institut d'Informatique
> > Chemin du Musee 3 - 1700 Fribourg - Switzerland - Tel.+41.26.300.84.75

> > ========================================================================
> > Pet Shop Boys tribute CD: http://www-iiuf.unifr.ch/~banfi/attribute
> > Featured in the links section of WinAmp 2.06!

by **Aubre** » Sun, 16 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Trying to make an example of them? Violate copyrights and you cut off the
supply? I'll be disappointed to not have Suzuka, but I can't say this
sounds like a bad idea. It's certainly fair game. I just hope Suzuka
arrives when and if the French Pits finally backs down. Let's not blame
Dave, and start blaming the French Pits for taking Suzuka away from us.

You have excellent taste, by the way. Suzuka and Imola were my GP2
favorites.

-A

by **Uncle Feste** » Sun, 16 Jul 2000 04:00:00

> I suggest we collectively bouycott this site. I don't believe how people
> could submit hotlaps to a creep like this.

You know what... maybe a better alternative would be to have a
letter-writing campaign to this French Pits site, just to register our
extreme displeasure with them. Also a copy forwarded to their ISP may
not hurt either. Comments or suggestions?

--
Chuck Kandler

A man is no less a Slave just because he is
allowed to choose a new Master every four years.

by **Slic** » Sun, 16 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Who are you calling names!!?

Olivier
B.R.R.

by **m.seer** » Sun, 16 Jul 2000 04:00:00

ROTFLOL.

Dave's work has nothing to do with Sierra. Just blows their credibility
even further away.

MS

> According to the site owner he has permission from Sierra France.
> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------

> > woah....
> > are those tracks up on the frenchpits for real? can they put that stuff
> up
> > there for download?!

> > Martyn_D

> > > it doesnt work.

> > > > Hi all.

> > > > Apparently no one noticed that a "pre-beta" version of Suzuka for
GPL
> > > > is available at the French Pits...

> > > > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/thefrenchpits/index2.html

> > > > I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know what it's worth.

> > > > Folco

> ========================================================================
> > > > Folco Banfi -- Universite de Fribourg -- Institut d'Informatique
> > > > Chemin du Musee 3 - 1700 Fribourg - Switzerland -
> Tel.+41.26.300.84.75

> ========================================================================
> > > > Pet Shop Boys tribute CD:
> http://www-iiuf.unifr.ch/~banfi/attribute
> > > > Featured in the links section of WinAmp 2.06!

by **amos-opu** » Sun, 16 Jul 2000 04:00:00

maybe dave should try and find out how the french pits got it....
And blaming them for not getting suzuka?.....in the end it is dave not
giving/selling us the track, and him alone.....

Sudesh

> > I have a much newer and better version of Suzuka but it's been rendered
> pointless by
> > this posting - I presume that was the intention.

> Trying to make an example of them? Violate copyrights and you cut off the
> supply? I'll be disappointed to not have Suzuka, but I can't say this
> sounds like a bad idea. It's certainly fair game. I just hope Suzuka
> arrives when and if the French Pits finally backs down. Let's not blame
> Dave, and start blaming the French Pits for taking Suzuka away from us.

> You have excellent taste, by the way. Suzuka and Imola were my GP2
> favorites.

> -A

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