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by **Laurence Lindstro** » Tue, 27 Jan 1998 04:00:00

> FWIW, I talked to the folks at Ubi Soft, and they confirmed John's
> suspicions about the inaccuracies of the tracks. They also said
> they have no plans for a patch to fix this. =(

That's not cool. I will continue to enjoy this sim.

What do you hear of Starting Grid? Is that a dream that has
died? If so, what did it in?

Larry

by **papa..** » Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Could you elaborate...? Im not sure I understand the point your
making...? Surely you dont mean that I should expend the sort of
effort I typically make when buying a car, when I buy a GAME...eh?

Being a *** Flight Simmer (someone else's definition of me) I
realize how important the details can be to some people. But in
reality it helps to realize that hey its only a game....HAVE FUN.

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>When you buy a TV, a computer chip, or perhaps a car, don't you try to
>find out as much as possible about the product to ensure you're getting
>the best deal possible?...or do you simply plonk-down your cash for
>whatever's in front of you? ;)

>Cheers!

>Marc

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by **Marc J. Nelso** » Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:00:00

> What do you hear of Starting Grid? Is that a dream that has
> died? If so, what did it in?

Not a peep! Doesn't look good for the sim, especially with a possibilty
of GP3 coming to a Christmas near you. This, plus licensing, and the
scandal that's about to hit Uncle Bernie square in the face, could very
well keep it off the store shelves indefinately. =(

Cheers!

Marc
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by **Marc J. Nelso** » Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:00:00

> Well that certainly wouldn't be good. I guess I am glad I didn't know
> Hungary is that bad. Oh well.

When you buy a TV, a computer chip, or perhaps a car, don't you try to
find out as much as possible about the product to ensure you're getting
the best deal possible?...or do you simply plonk-down your cash for
whatever's in front of you? ;)

Cheers!

Marc

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by **Marc J. Nelso** » Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:00:00

> Frankly if he did say that I would wonder what his problem was.
> I know that it is impossible to completely simulate these things
> with a computer on a 14" flat screen, but come on F1RS is the
> best available. There are many real pilots that don't like PC
> flightsimulators because it is impossible to simulate the real
> thing. I am sure the same is true of auto simulators.

A few points: simulators are not designed with monitor size in mind; if
someone made a sim of a beach-ball game, and the ball was square, would
you find it so easy to accept? I would presume these pilots may be
referring to the "seat_of_the_pants" feeling missing from flight sims,
and this may also be true for motorsports sims.

Mr. Sim Racing News?...ah am truley honored sah! ;)

I don't recall John saying they suck, I believe he stated that the
experience was ruined for him, because of what he may expect to see
in a sim (see beach-ball theory above)?

Perhaps you're more affected than you think, else you wouldn't continue
to respond to this thread. ;)

Cheers!

Marc

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by **John Walla** » Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:00:00

On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:14:10 -0600, "Greg Cisko"

>Frankly if he did say that I would wonder what his problem was.
>I know that it is impossible to completely simulate these things
>with a computer on a 14" flat screen, but come on F1RS is the
>best available. There are many real pilots that don't like PC
>flightsimulators because it is impossible to simulate the real
>thing. I am sure the same is true of auto simulators.

That's exactly what I mean. F1RS is the best thing available _for_you_
but you must accept that others do not share that opinion. JV's
problem would be that he knows what it should feel like and can judge
how much is missing and how well simulated are the parts that are
there. You and I can only guess at these things, and hence F1RS
satisfies us to different degrees depending upon our knowledge,
experience, and consequent expectations.

I don't drive around the circuits thinking how much they suck either,
I just don't drive around those circuits. If you are releasing a
simulation then you have some responsibility to do it properly, since
that impacts upon your customers and in turn upon your sales. Quite
apart from that, if I was a circuit owner and had agreed to license my
track I would at least like to see it done properly. OTOH they
probably don't care too much as long as the money rolls in - sadly
another general truism of modern business.

Cheers!
John

by **Tony R** » Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:00:00

>Have to agree that the Ostkurve seems broken based on watching it on
>the tube from in car....really seems to be missing the elevations.
>Hopefully patchs will fix that sort of thing up. Not a game killer by
>any stretch of the imagination for me...though...just a wish they
>would fix it...kind of thing..<VBG>.

I dont know how Ubisoft made the tracks but if it's anything like the
way they made the tracks in Pod then it should be rather easy for
them, considering how many extra tracks they churned out for that.

Tony

by **Richard Walk** » Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:00:00

On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:27:33 -0800, "Marc J. Nelson"

>When you buy a TV, a computer chip, or perhaps a car, don't you try to
>find out as much as possible about the product to ensure you're getting
>the best deal possible?...or do you simply plonk-down your cash for
>whatever's in front of you? ;)

You know, there are times when I wonder whether blissful ignorance isn't
the way to go ;-)

Cheers,
Richard

by **Marc J. Nelso** » Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:00:00

On a relative scale, why not? Surely things need to be kept in their
proper perspective, but my point was that the game/sim experience is
what you make it. =)

Cheers!

Marc

> Could you elaborate...? Im not sure I understand the point your
> making...? Surely you dont mean that I should expend the sort of
> effort I typically make when buying a car, when I buy a GAME...eh?

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by **Marc J. Nelso** » Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Sure would save a hellava' lot of time! =P

Cheers!

Marc

> You know, there are times when I wonder whether blissful ignorance isn't
> the way to go ;-)

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