rec.autos.simulators

by **Mike Whit** » Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Ontario (Motor) Speedway WAS located in Ontario California.

> I'm an Aussie, which means my in-depth knowledge of North american racing
> ovals is pretty limited but I'm sure the Ontario Speedway is actually
> located in California, not Canada?! Is that correct? I have memories
that
> it was once referred to as "the Indianapolis of the West" or some such
term.

> Anyway ....I'm sure it is in the USA!

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------

> > Hi all,

> > To get to the point...how come the converted Ontario Motor Speedway (NL)
> > and Toronto (ICR2/CART) have the -US- flag displayed on them!!! At least
> > Vancouver was correct. Ontario isn't a state...yet! Hopefully, someone
> > will give us new illustrations for these two. Any Canuk artists/drivers
> > out there who might take this on? I would, but all my artistic talent is
> > in my ears...8^)

> > J. P. Hovercraft

by **J. P. Hovercraf** » Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:00:00

"In days of yore, from shore to shore,
Sanguinary beavers came,
And planted sharp and shining fangs
In arteries and veins..."

from "Vampire Beavers" by Joe Hall
(sung to the tune of "The Maple Leaf Forever")

J. P.

> To get to the point...how come the converted Ontario Motor Speedway (NL)
> > and Toronto (ICR2/CART) have the -US- flag displayed on them!!! At least
> > Vancouver was correct.

> Im sorry to inform yoo of this but the United States of America has invaded
> your country, we now control all of Ontario, Toronto, Vancouver, and the
> Windsor bridge.
> So allways carry American money, know the Pledge of Alligience by heart, and
> look for the Stars and Stripes at a location near you!!

> Rik Anthrax
> -
> -
> "trust the government?? what are you, some kind of moron?"
> "Cato was right."

by **J. P. Hovercraf** » Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:00:00

It's now been hijacked back to its rightful home in Ontario, Canada. It's alive
and well in a full tower case in my studio. Send American $$$ or I'll start
returning it a piece at a time. 8^)

J. P.

> Ontario (Motor) Speedway WAS located in Ontario California.

> > I'm an Aussie, which means my in-depth knowledge of North american racing
> > ovals is pretty limited but I'm sure the Ontario Speedway is actually
> > located in California, not Canada?! Is that correct? I have memories
> that
> > it was once referred to as "the Indianapolis of the West" or some such
> term.

> > Anyway ....I'm sure it is in the USA!

> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------

> > > Hi all,

> > > To get to the point...how come the converted Ontario Motor Speedway (NL)
> > > and Toronto (ICR2/CART) have the -US- flag displayed on them!!! At least
> > > Vancouver was correct. Ontario isn't a state...yet! Hopefully, someone
> > > will give us new illustrations for these two. Any Canuk artists/drivers
> > > out there who might take this on? I would, but all my artistic talent is
> > > in my ears...8^)

> > > J. P. Hovercraft

by **David Butte** » Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:00:00

<snip>

The only ways Canadians are embarassing are: 1) thinking ice hockey is a sport,
and 2) repeatedly using the expression "chump change" without realising that
hardly anyone this side of the pond knows what you're on about ;-)
--
David.
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

by **Rikanthr** » Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Can we at least keep our beer?!! Please don't make us drink
your beer! Please please please!! :-)

Hell, thats what we came for!!
:o

Rik Anthrax
-
-
"trust the government?? what are you, some kind of moron?"
"Cato was right."

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:00:00

No doubt a supermarket or housing estate now, Mike?!
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

> Ontario (Motor) Speedway WAS located in Ontario California.

> > I'm an Aussie, which means my in-depth knowledge of North american
racing
> > ovals is pretty limited but I'm sure the Ontario Speedway is actually
> > located in California, not Canada?! Is that correct? I have memories
> that
> > it was once referred to as "the Indianapolis of the West" or some such
> term.

> > Anyway ....I'm sure it is in the USA!

> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------

> > > Hi all,

> > > To get to the point...how come the converted Ontario Motor Speedway
(NL)
> > > and Toronto (ICR2/CART) have the -US- flag displayed on them!!! At
least
> > > Vancouver was correct. Ontario isn't a state...yet! Hopefully, someone
> > > will give us new illustrations for these two. Any Canuk
artists/drivers
> > > out there who might take this on? I would, but all my artistic talent
is
> > > in my ears...8^)

> > > J. P. Hovercraft

by **Stiff on** » Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I can see how Bruce gets confused. They have an American flag for the
Toronto street circuit!

> No doubt a supermarket or housing estate now, Mike?!
> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------

> > Ontario (Motor) Speedway WAS located in Ontario California.

> > > I'm an Aussie, which means my in-depth knowledge of North american
> racing
> > > ovals is pretty limited but I'm sure the Ontario Speedway is actually
> > > located in California, not Canada?! Is that correct? I have memories
> > that
> > > it was once referred to as "the Indianapolis of the West" or some such
> > term.

> > > Anyway ....I'm sure it is in the USA!

> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Bruce Kennewell,
> > > Canberra, Australia.
> > > ---------------------------

> > > > Hi all,

> > > > To get to the point...how come the converted Ontario Motor Speedway
> (NL)
> > > > and Toronto (ICR2/CART) have the -US- flag displayed on them!!! At
> least
> > > > Vancouver was correct. Ontario isn't a state...yet! Hopefully,
someone
> > > > will give us new illustrations for these two. Any Canuk
> artists/drivers
> > > > out there who might take this on? I would, but all my artistic
talent
> is
> > > > in my ears...8^)

> > > > J. P. Hovercraft

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Ummm, Mr. Stiff, if you go back through the thread I think you'll find that
it wasn't I who was confused....it was Mr. Hovercraft.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

> I can see how Bruce gets confused. They have an American flag for the
> Toronto street circuit!

> > No doubt a supermarket or housing estate now, Mike?!
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------

> > > Ontario (Motor) Speedway WAS located in Ontario California.

> > > > I'm an Aussie, which means my in-depth knowledge of North american
> > racing
> > > > ovals is pretty limited but I'm sure the Ontario Speedway is
actually
> > > > located in California, not Canada?! Is that correct? I have
memories
> > > that
> > > > it was once referred to as "the Indianapolis of the West" or some
such
> > > term.

> > > > Anyway ....I'm sure it is in the USA!

> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bruce Kennewell,
> > > > Canberra, Australia.
> > > > ---------------------------

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > To get to the point...how come the converted Ontario Motor
Speedway
> > (NL)
> > > > > and Toronto (ICR2/CART) have the -US- flag displayed on them!!! At
> > least
> > > > > Vancouver was correct. Ontario isn't a state...yet! Hopefully,
> someone
> > > > > will give us new illustrations for these two. Any Canuk
> > artists/drivers
> > > > > out there who might take this on? I would, but all my artistic
> talent
> > is
> > > > > in my ears...8^)

> > > > > J. P. Hovercraft

by **J. P. Hovercraf** » Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Just as a final note, I actually drove the converted Ontario Motor Speedway
today. I guess the virtual palm trees could have been my first clue...8^0.

J. P. Hovercraft

----------------------------

> Hi all,

> To get to the point...how come the converted Ontario Motor Speedway (NL)
> and Toronto (ICR2/CART) have the -US- flag displayed on them!!! At least
> Vancouver was correct. Ontario isn't a state...yet! Hopefully, someone
> will give us new illustrations for these two. Any Canuk artists/drivers
> out there who might take this on? I would, but all my artistic talent is
> in my ears...8^)

> J. P. Hovercraft

by **Stiff on** » Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Well Bruce I was not taking a shot at you, just saying that they have old
glory in place of my wonderful red maple leaf at Toronto. I have short
attention span disorder. What were we talking about?
Al Stiff

> Ummm, Mr. Stiff, if you go back through the thread I think you'll find
that
> it wasn't I who was confused....it was Mr. Hovercraft.

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------

> > I can see how Bruce gets confused. They have an American flag for the
> > Toronto street circuit!

> > > No doubt a supermarket or housing estate now, Mike?!
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Bruce Kennewell,
> > > Canberra, Australia.
> > > ---------------------------

> > > > Ontario (Motor) Speedway WAS located in Ontario California.

> > > > > I'm an Aussie, which means my in-depth knowledge of North american
> > > racing
> > > > > ovals is pretty limited but I'm sure the Ontario Speedway is
> actually
> > > > > located in California, not Canada?! Is that correct? I have
> memories
> > > > that
> > > > > it was once referred to as "the Indianapolis of the West" or some
> such
> > > > term.

> > > > > Anyway ....I'm sure it is in the USA!

> > > > > --
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Bruce Kennewell,
> > > > > Canberra, Australia.
> > > > > ---------------------------

> > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > To get to the point...how come the converted Ontario Motor
> Speedway
> > > (NL)
> > > > > > and Toronto (ICR2/CART) have the -US- flag displayed on them!!!
At
> > > least
> > > > > > Vancouver was correct. Ontario isn't a state...yet! Hopefully,
> > someone
> > > > > > will give us new illustrations for these two. Any Canuk
> > > artists/drivers
> > > > > > out there who might take this on? I would, but all my artistic
> > talent
> > > is
> > > > > > in my ears...8^)

> > > > > > J. P. Hovercraft

by **Stephen Ferguso** » Sun, 02 Apr 2000 04:00:00

> >Hi all, (eyes averted, face reddening)

> >OK,OK, in a flurry of misplaced nationalistic indignation, I've
> >rushed to put my foot in my mouth (keyboard?) up to at least the
> >knee and embarassed myself and Canadians everywhere...
> <snip>

> The only ways Canadians are embarassing are: 1) thinking ice hockey is a
sport,
> and 2) repeatedly using the expression "chump change" without realising
that
> hardly anyone this side of the pond knows what you're on about ;-)

... and continually apologizing when *you* step on *their* foot.

Took me several years to break the habit after I moved away.
Stephen

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Mon, 03 Apr 2000 05:00:00

Hmmmm?
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

> Well Bruce I was not taking a shot at you, just saying that they have old
> glory in place of my wonderful red maple leaf at Toronto. I have short
> attention span disorder. What were we talking about?
> Al Stiff

> > Ummm, Mr. Stiff, if you go back through the thread I think you'll find
> that
> > it wasn't I who was confused....it was Mr. Hovercraft.

> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------

> > > I can see how Bruce gets confused. They have an American flag for the
> > > Toronto street circuit!

> > > > No doubt a supermarket or housing estate now, Mike?!
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bruce Kennewell,
> > > > Canberra, Australia.
> > > > ---------------------------

> > > > > Ontario (Motor) Speedway WAS located in Ontario California.

> > > > > > I'm an Aussie, which means my in-depth knowledge of North
american
> > > > racing
> > > > > > ovals is pretty limited but I'm sure the Ontario Speedway is
> > actually
> > > > > > located in California, not Canada?! Is that correct? I have
> > memories
> > > > > that
> > > > > > it was once referred to as "the Indianapolis of the West" or
some
> > such
> > > > > term.

> > > > > > Anyway ....I'm sure it is in the USA!

> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Bruce Kennewell,
> > > > > > Canberra, Australia.
> > > > > > ---------------------------

> > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > > To get to the point...how come the converted Ontario Motor
> > Speedway
> > > > (NL)
> > > > > > > and Toronto (ICR2/CART) have the -US- flag displayed on
them!!!
> At
> > > > least
> > > > > > > Vancouver was correct. Ontario isn't a state...yet! Hopefully,
> > > someone
> > > > > > > will give us new illustrations for these two. Any Canuk
> > > > artists/drivers
> > > > > > > out there who might take this on? I would, but all my artistic
> > > talent
> > > > is
> > > > > > > in my ears...8^)

> > > > > > > J. P. Hovercraft

by **Kirk Lan** » Mon, 03 Apr 2000 05:00:00

Ontario Motor Speedway is in Ontario CA....that's CALIFORNIA, you Canadian!
:P

California Motor Speedway is right next to the old site, in Fontana....

Like I keep telling my pro-Canada friend, there's nothing good left in
Canada...we've gotten everything good out of there...Tom Green...Pamela
Anderson (or so I've heard)...well, can't think of much else :)

--
Kirk Lane

ICQ: 28171652
BRT #187

"Yeah you won't find me
I'm going MIA
Tonight I'm leaving
Going MIA
Getting lost in you again
Is better than being known"
-Foo Fighters, "MIA"

by **Brad Wils** » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00

And you can take a look at what's left of the actual track, I think just
a piece of banking and one of the signs, that now refers to a business
park or some such thing. Most of the area is now an outlet mall and
some light industry warehouses.

It is interesting that the new California speedway is just a couple
miles away, and built on the site of an old steel mill. Kinda going in
the opposite direction from OMS.

Anyone know where exactly the Riverside Speedway was? I think it was
Moreno Valley, but don't know exactly where, maybe there are no visible
pieces of it left.

--Brad

> Just as a final note, I actually drove the converted Ontario Motor Speedway
> today. I guess the virtual palm trees could have been my first clue...8^0.

> J. P. Hovercraft

> ----------------------------

> > Hi all,

> > To get to the point...how come the converted Ontario Motor Speedway (NL)
> > and Toronto (ICR2/CART) have the -US- flag displayed on them!!! At least
> > Vancouver was correct. Ontario isn't a state...yet! Hopefully, someone
> > will give us new illustrations for these two. Any Canuk artists/drivers
> > out there who might take this on? I would, but all my artistic talent is
> > in my ears...8^)

> > J. P. Hovercraft

--

by **don hodgdo** » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00

The sign for Riverside International is still visible from the freeway as
you pass by...kinda sad really.
--
don

"Getting hit by a meteorite is an accident...
everything else is driver-error."

> And you can take a look at what's left of the actual track, I think just
> a piece of banking and one of the signs, that now refers to a business
> park or some such thing. Most of the area is now an outlet mall and
> some light industry warehouses.

> It is interesting that the new California speedway is just a couple
> miles away, and built on the site of an old steel mill. Kinda going in
> the opposite direction from OMS.

> Anyone know where exactly the Riverside Speedway was? I think it was
> Moreno Valley, but don't know exactly where, maybe there are no visible
> pieces of it left.

> --Brad

> > Just as a final note, I actually drove the converted Ontario Motor
Speedway
> > today. I guess the virtual palm trees could have been my first
clue...8^0.

> > J. P. Hovercraft

> > ----------------------------

> > > Hi all,

> > > To get to the point...how come the converted Ontario Motor Speedway
(NL)
> > > and Toronto (ICR2/CART) have the -US- flag displayed on them!!! At
least
> > > Vancouver was correct. Ontario isn't a state...yet! Hopefully, someone
> > > will give us new illustrations for these two. Any Canuk
artists/drivers
> > > out there who might take this on? I would, but all my artistic talent
is
> > > in my ears...8^)

> > > J. P. Hovercraft

> --

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