> Shhh... Don't let my two computers hear that. I have NR2 install
> fully on both and only the host requires the CDROM to play over the
> network.
Are either one of the computers equipped with a rendition card?
> Shhh... Don't let my two computers hear that. I have NR2 install
> fully on both and only the host requires the CDROM to play over the
> network.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WRONG, but thanks for playing! First of all, this question has been
thoroughly thrashed within this very newsgroup, on a very frequent basis,
so the answer is available if you will only take the time to look.
To claim that it is a "major BUG" for a software vendor to require you
to purhase multiple copies of a product, one for each simultaneous user,
is completely ridiculous. Do you honestly believe that, oh, let's say
the Ford Motor Company, only buys one copy of Windows NT, and then plays
"pass the CD" several thousand times? Wrong, wrong, wrong. This is where
an issue, known in the trade as
<technical jargon>
"licensing"
</technical jargon>
comes into play. Now I don't happen to have my Nascar 2 box here at the
office, but I am willing to bet that somewhere in that box there is
something resembling a
<technical jargon>
"software license agreement"
</technical jargon>.
Please let me know if I am going too fast for you. For entertainment
software, they usually don't mind if you have it installed on more than
one machine, but you are generally asked to only use one copy at any
given time. Papyrus could have taken the commercial approach, and required
IPX users to purchase a
<technical jargon>
"site license"
</technical jargon>,
but they didn't. They were nice enough to provide this software so that
you and your friends can do some head to head driving over a fast network,
and all they require is that you own one legal copy. Now I am certain
that the hackers have already found a work around for this, so if you
don't happen to own "any" legal copies, just do some digging. If you
do own a legal copy, and you do manage to figure out how this works,
then the next time you and your 7 friends are racing head to head for
the low, low price of $30 or $40, instead of thinking that the folks
at Papyrus are a bunch of jackbooted, fascist thugs, you might just say
"Thanks". They have given you a gift. And you are too ignorant to realize
it.
--Marcus Pless
*** you, bye have a nice day!!!
>Thanks,
>Mark E. Mooney
If this workaround doesn't let you get started, I'd like to hear some more
details from ya.
Charlie Heath
Papyrus
> Hey guyze,
> I just bought Nascar 2, after being hooked on nascar 1 for ages.
> I got two pentiums networked at home, but can't seem to get nascar to
> run multiplayer over IPX (other games play fine).
> Do I have to buy two copies of the games, so each machine has a CD in
> the drive, or is it supposed to be possible to play with a full
> installation and CD in one machine (like warcraft?).
> If not then thats a major BUG!!!, and I don't think SIERRA are being
> fair. I won't buy two copies of the game if one of them just sits in the
> cupboard most of the time.
> Other than that I think the game is mighty fine.
> Sam
Mark,
Yours is probably/maybe a little different, but mine works with LSL, NE200 and
IPXODI all loading in autoexec.bat-but *NOT* NETX ! Someone else mentioned
needing net.cfg, but I haven't. Hope it helps.
Happy Lappin'
Wade Tschida
You only need one copy of N2 to play over a network. The CD must be in the
computer when the game is started. Once you get the first machine to the
main menu you can take the CD out and all will run fine. Put it into the
second machine and start N2. Keep doing this untill all of the machines
are at the main menu. Once they are all there just go to multiplayer and
setup a network game. I tried it durring my Christmas vacation for nearly
every night and never had a problem.
Matt Fondoble
> > Hey guyze,
> > I just bought Nascar 2, after being hooked on nascar 1 for ages.
> > I got two pentiums networked at home, but can't seem to get nascar to
> > run multiplayer over IPX (other games play fine).
> > Do I have to buy two copies of the games, so each machine has a CD in
> > the drive, or is it supposed to be possible to play with a full
> > installation and CD in one machine (like warcraft?).
> > If not then thats a major BUG!!!, and I don't think SIERRA are being
> > fair. I won't buy two copies of the game if one of them just sits in
the
> > cupboard most of the time.
> > Other than that I think the game is mighty fine.
> > Sam
> It states clearly in the owners manual that to use N2 in multiplayer a
> CDrom of N2 has to be in "each" computers CDrom drive.
> If two people are playing simultaneous they want each player to own his
> own N2 sim.
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>> It states clearly in the owners manual that to use N2 in multiplayer a
>> CDrom of N2 has to be in "each" computers CDrom drive.
>> If two people are playing simultaneous they want each player to own his
>> own N2 sim.
>Did you get a different manual than I did? What page makes it so clear?
>The readme.txt says you need the CD-ROM in the drive to HOST
>multiplayer.
>I'm not saying you are wrong, I just didn't find it in the manual.
>Mike
I think the license agreement is intended to be "use it like a book" -
meaning, one purchased copy of NASCAR II for each machine it is running on
concurrently. However, this is not enforced by the limited copy protection
provided by requiring a CD in the drive.
Charlie Heath
Papyrus
> Mr. Heath responded to a different question when he said:
> > I think the license agreement is intended to be "use it like a book" -
> > meaning, one purchased copy of NASCAR II for each machine it is running
> on
> > concurrently. However, this is not enforced by the limited copy
> protection
> > provided by requiring a CD in the drive.
> > Charlie Heath
> > Papyrus
> The comment "this is not enforced by the limited copy protection provided
> by requiring a CD in the drive" brings to mind the question ... will N2
> install a finite number of times from a given CD? If so, how many? I've
> already burned 3 on my system due to operator error mostly.
> comments? answers? details?
> --
> MWarren
Mr. Heath responded to a different question when he said:
The comment "this is not enforced by the limited copy protection provided
by requiring a CD in the drive" brings to mind the question ... will N2
install a finite number of times from a given CD? If so, how many? I've
already burned 3 on my system due to operator error mostly.
comments? answers? details?
--
MWarren
There is no technical way to accomplish that with a simple CD. So,
"No, there is no limit." Even if there were a way to do it, customers
would be so incensed (rightly so) about it that no respectable
shrink-wrap entertainment vendor would do it...
Of course, Charlie's comments above still apply. Please don't just buy
one copy and pass it around...
---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus
On Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:24:31 +0000, Julian Anderson
>In other words, all I want to do is Network a race from ONE CD. Win95 or
>DOS, I dont really care. I will not consider buying Nascar2 until I know
>where I stand on this.
As for buying one copy and playing on multiple machines, I don't know
legally where that stands under UK copyright law, but it was our
intention to allow network races from one CD, so I think you'll be
fine all around... (Hopefully, that will get people "hooked" and
they'll buy their own copies to practice and get better...)
---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus
"You may use one copy of the product on a single terminal connected to a
single computer. You may not network the product or otherwise install it
on more than one computer or computer terminal at the same time."
Utterly unprosecutable of course.... ;-)
Cheers,
Richard