is being said... the "bully club" was mentioned as it is probably the
the club, for Chrysler's sake...
>> Niles.
>> I wouldn't doubt you beat me at many things. I was shocked to read that
>> you are 56? you sounded more like 15, in the original post/reply lol.
>> No I'm not being holier than thou I'm trying to put perspective. It is a
>> club, you are old enough to know that you don't even join (back in your
>> day) the neiborhood bully's club without earning respect and rank.
> Never wanted too.
>> The only way to get either is to race, earn points. that was all I
>> meant.
>> Niles, I am not one of those authors that sound as good when typing, I
>> was trying to be provocative but not personal.
>>> First off let me say that I love the physics and the scanning concept.
>>> Also I like the fact they are using a tire dyno to recon info.
>>>> Niles, no offense... All I can say is damn, unless you are the king or
>>>> the son of the king, you don't start ANY PLACE on the planet, AT THE
>>>> TOP... you work your way up. Sheesh.
>>> I'm 56 years old and have already been to school ... even SIM Racing
>>> school, I've been SIM Racing for 11 years. I want to race the cars I'm
>>> driving now and I don't need to have a faux career to know I can SIM
>>> race or get to a car I already know how to drive.
>> I disagree, this same thing weeds the set top mentality people out, which
>> in the whole makes it better... every signup deal-wave that brought
>> newbies to iRacing, brought with them a percentage of those who go "phuck
>> it, floor it into one, wreck & who cares, it is just a game" and we cant
>> handle that as a Club. It has to mimick something, they chose it to
>> mimick more like real life, earn you way up. how else can it be handled?
>> I mean I dont have my own server I cant ban the phucktards but iracing
>> can group them together at least.
>> I do AArmy, it is free all they ask is that you dont cheat, 90% of the
>> servers rank you, from cheats that ban you (punk buster) and kill ratios,
>> time in rank, shit like that, and afaik other games are the same way,
>> howver what is different about iracing doing it the way it is done?
>> little I really feel...
>>>That's the game part of iRacing that turns me off. iRacing says it's more
>>>SIM but it's really more game. rFactor has a career mode built into it
>>>and I don't know one person that's done it ... mostly because they
>>>already know how to race ... at least the people I race with.
>> rFactor had to balance it because what fun is it to sit at home and race
>> the computer? I bought my son (for his xbo360) called dirt, and like you
>> I was instantly turned off that I have to "unlock" a goddamn game I
>> bought. Why it is different for online? I guess I feel some reward that
>> when I join a race with my 4.3 safety rating at oval B licence level,
>> that it should mean to otheres (as it does to me) that I have worked my
>> way up there.
>> Ill finish later I ran out of time....
>>>> You have to give a little to get a little, for Jesus Chryslers sake
>>>> man. If that effort is too much for you, then I don't know if I want to
>>>> race with you either, you know?
>>> I'd beat you anyway. ;) I put in a lot of effort on my 1995 IndyCar
>>> leagues ... you don't even know me and you think because it's not
>>> iRacing that it doesn't count ... and your holier than thou attitude
>>> typifies so many iRacing zealots and that is a main reason why I can't
>>> do it. Not only that, iRacing doesn't offer a series type or a car I'm
>>> interested in. And if you feel like you need to be validated by
>>> progressing through a career, more power to you. But if you feel like
>>> the only qualifier for you racing with me is that I have to play that
>>> little game that iRacing offers up, rather then judging me on my racing
>>> ability ... I don't want to race with you either. And that's exactly why
>>> I find so many iRacing zealots arrogant and offensive. And the arrogant
>>> divisiveness that iRacing has created, has done more harm to SIM Racing
>>> overall then good and all you have to do is look at how many members
>>> that have come, then gone, to know they have turned people off. It ain't
>>> good. Their megalomaniacal management is flawed. Half the members that
>>> have stayed don't like it.
>>> People come back to our leagues saying definitively they will not be
>>> doing any more iRacing. They have been alienated. It's not just the game
>>> that turns people off, it's the arrogance of "We're in iRacing and
>>> you're not!" that keep people from going.
>>> While im gone here where I probably crossed the line
>>>> there... answer me this: if you were to start a real life racing
>>>> career you are telling me you would "start" in formula one? I know,
>>>> mostly not just because of money? No, not just money, but also because
>>>> of Skill. That is all, fair enough?
>>> I started in Viper Racing. Then GPL then a dozen other SIM's. But now
>>> because iRacing's here, I don't know how to race? "Come to iRacing
>>> Jesus. It's the only path to SIM enlightenment."
>>> Not saying you aren't damn fine sim racer, maybe your
>>>> real name is Skip Barber, but even he worked his way up.
>>> Done worked my way up, son.
>>> but I haven't
>>>> raced you, so how would I know? So you spend a very short 4 weeks
>>>> showing us (Iracing and me (ONLY saying and me, because I am a member
>>>> I can see your stats as they accumulate)) that you can drive as fast as
>>>> you talk... then you move up, no sweat! Some reason you think you
>>>> should get to skip all that?
>>> I have done iRacing and it takes more then 4 weeks, plus as I said above
>>> they don't offer the car I want to drive. Plus I want to race the car I
>>> want to race, when I want to race and with whom I want to race. And
>>> there is a group of guys over there, that are in control that alienated
>>> me and a large group of SIM racers in 2004 and now they want me to pay
>>> there wages while being in a format of high restrictions ..... No.
>>> I have heard this same argument from a dozen people and I've heard a
>>> dozen more have my argument. But all you have to do is look at how many
>>> people are subscribed and you have your answer. It's a loser. There is
>>> no way that John Henry will continue to back this loser unless they get
>>> some more paying members. When I say loser I mean financial loser. Take
>>> there employees and estimate their salaries and expenses (office, IT,
>>> ....) and then estimate iRacing income and you will see that there is a
>>> big hole over there that John Henry's throwing money down and it has no
>>> bottom.
>>>> To me, you sound less like you hate iRacing, but more like you hate
>>>> competition, earning your way up, and proving yourself. Well IMHO I
>>>> think you (if that is right) should avoid iRacing at all costs...
>>> Again, your holier than thou attitude. You are what's wrong with
>>> iRacing. You and your type.
