rec.autos.simulators

by **Eggman** » Tue, 13 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Here is the Indianapolis Motor Speedway track for Nascar and Indycar
Racing II.
Please allow at least 3 days for repost requests because the file is
being forwarded through an anonymous re-mailing service in Finland.
If anyone knows of any anonymous FTP servers that DO NOT keep logs of
uploads, please forward that info to me via email. If I find a truly
anonymous ftp site, I will upload the file there.
-=EggMan71=-

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by **Thomas Warde** » Wed, 14 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>Here is the Indianapolis Motor Speedway track for Nascar and Indycar
>Racing II.
>Please allow at least 3 days for repost requests because the file is
>being forwarded through an anonymous re-mailing service in Finland.
>If anyone knows of any anonymous FTP servers that DO NOT keep logs of
>uploads, please forward that info to me via email. If I find a truly
>anonymous ftp site, I will upload the file there.
>-=EggMan71=-
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>Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED.

WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?? ARE YOU STUPID OR ARE YOU JUST PALILY AN
MORON??? Come on everyone lets try to find out who this is!

Tom Wardell

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171

by **Eggman** » Wed, 14 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?? ARE YOU STUPID OR ARE YOU JUST PALILY AN
>MORON??? Come on everyone lets try to find out who this is!

>Tom Wardell

>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171

Why am I doing what? Seems you are the moron for asking a pointless
question.
Let me know what the problem is.
Also, you CANNOT find out who I am. The anonymous re-mailer
ANON.PENET.FI has only been obligated to reveal the true identity of
only one (1) of it's users, and that was because the Church of
Sceintology <sp> (which is a worldwide organization) went through the
Finland court system and obtained a warrant for the name of the person
that was posting anonymous "hate messages" about the church.
I really don't want any trouble Tom, If I bother you, don't read my
posts.
This all must be a misunderstanding.
-=EggMan71=-
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by **Thomas Warde** » Wed, 14 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>>WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?? ARE YOU STUPID OR ARE YOU JUST PALILY AN
>>MORON??? Come on everyone lets try to find out who this is!

>>Tom Wardell

>>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171

>Why am I doing what? Seems you are the moron for asking a pointless
>question.
>Let me know what the problem is.
>Also, you CANNOT find out who I am. The anonymous re-mailer
>ANON.PENET.FI has only been obligated to reveal the true identity of
>only one (1) of it's users, and that was because the Church of
>Sceintology <sp> (which is a worldwide organization) went through the
>Finland court system and obtained a warrant for the name of the person
>that was posting anonymous "hate messages" about the church.
>I really don't want any trouble Tom, If I bother you, don't read my
>posts.
>This all must be a misunderstanding.
>-=EggMan71=-
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>Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED.

THIS IS AGANST THA LAW! I already have the Indy Track Pack myself
ANYWAY! Even if I didn't I wounld get it from you. Whyy don't you go
to ALT.BINARIES.GAMES and uplaod the INDY Track there!

Tom Wardell

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171

by **Robert Mull** » Wed, 14 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>>WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?? ARE YOU STUPID OR ARE YOU JUST PALILY AN
>>MORON??? Come on everyone lets try to find out who this is!

>>Tom Wardell

>>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171

>Why am I doing what? Seems you are the moron for asking a pointless
>question.
>Let me know what the problem is.
>Also, you CANNOT find out who I am. The anonymous re-mailer
>ANON.PENET.FI has only been obligated to reveal the true identity of
>only one (1) of it's users, and that was because the Church of
>Sceintology <sp> (which is a worldwide organization) went through the
>Finland court system and obtained a warrant for the name of the person
>that was posting anonymous "hate messages" about the church.
>I really don't want any trouble Tom, If I bother you, don't read my
>posts.
>This all must be a misunderstanding.
>-=EggMan71=-
>--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENTION***
>Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED.

You would know what the problem is if you had been reading this group
for a while. We have been very fortunate to have a dialogue with the
people at Papyrus as well as Spectrum Holobyte. These people will not
be happy to see there pirated software on this group. By posting the
Indy track you have jeapordised this relationship for all of us. If
this stupidity on your part causes us to lose this I think you are
going to find yourself with many enemies. I would hope that Ed and
Adam can find your identity and sue your ass. Thanks for nothing.

by **Rebel Warrio** » Wed, 14 Aug 1996 04:00:00

I think explaining all that was pointless. I also think it was a bad
decision (very bad) to make that post in this group. Keep post of that
type where they belong else you could wind up pissing off alot more
people other than the ones in this group. We would'nt want to do that
now would we...

Rebel Warrior

by **Thomas Warde** » Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>>>WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?? ARE YOU STUPID OR ARE YOU JUST PALILY AN
>>>MORON??? Come on everyone lets try to find out who this is!

>>>Tom Wardell

>>>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171

>>Why am I doing what? Seems you are the moron for asking a pointless
>>question.
>>Let me know what the problem is.
>>Also, you CANNOT find out who I am. The anonymous re-mailer
>>ANON.PENET.FI has only been obligated to reveal the true identity of
>>only one (1) of it's users, and that was because the Church of
>>Sceintology <sp> (which is a worldwide organization) went through the
>>Finland court system and obtained a warrant for the name of the person
>>that was posting anonymous "hate messages" about the church.
>>I really don't want any trouble Tom, If I bother you, don't read my
>>posts.
>>This all must be a misunderstanding.
>>-=EggMan71=-
>>--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENTION***
>>Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED.
>You would know what the problem is if you had been reading this group
>for a while. We have been very fortunate to have a dialogue with the
>people at Papyrus as well as Spectrum Holobyte. These people will not
>be happy to see there pirated software on this group. By posting the
>Indy track you have jeapordised this relationship for all of us. If
>this stupidity on your part causes us to lose this I think you are
>going to find yourself with many enemies. I would hope that Ed and
>Adam can find your identity and sue your ass. Thanks for nothing.

that, won't sound right if I used BUTT!) FOR ALL IT'S WORTH! PROBABLY
NOTHING!

Tom Wardell

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171

by **Ed Mart** » Tue, 20 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>>Here is the Indianapolis Motor Speedway track for Nascar and Indycar
>>Racing II.
>>Please allow at least 3 days for repost requests because the file is
>>being forwarded through an anonymous re-mailing service in Finland.
>>If anyone knows of any anonymous FTP servers that DO NOT keep logs of
>>uploads, please forward that info to me via email. If I find a truly
>>anonymous ftp site, I will upload the file there.
>>-=EggMan71=-

>>--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENTION***
>>Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED.

>WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?? ARE YOU STUPID OR ARE YOU JUST PALILY AN
>MORON??? Come on everyone lets try to find out who this is!

>Tom Wardell

>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171

Dear Tom,

I could care less if this is you or someone who keeps posting under
your name. I welcome you to my kill file. this way, i'll never even
see another message from you & all the other Tom Wardell's.

Hailing frequencies closed.

Ed Martin
Producer, Series Director
NASCAR Racing League
Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

by **Tim Dal** » Tue, 20 Aug 1996 04:00:00

SNIP SNIP SNIP

I always enjoy hearing from ED!! :-}

Regards

Tim Daley
Expertec Corporation (313) 451-2272
Providers of Software Solutions and Expertise
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I'd rather be lucky than FAST!
<<<<<<<<<GM Proving Grounds Race Team>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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by **Jeff Vince** » Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>>>Here is the Indianapolis Motor Speedway track for Nascar and Indycar
>>>Racing II.
>>>Please allow at least 3 days for repost requests because the file is
>>>being forwarded through an anonymous re-mailing service in Finland.
>>>If anyone knows of any anonymous FTP servers that DO NOT keep logs of
>>>uploads, please forward that info to me via email. If I find a truly
>>>anonymous ftp site, I will upload the file there.
>>>-=EggMan71=-

>>>--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENTION***
>>>Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED.

>>WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?? ARE YOU STUPID OR ARE YOU JUST PALILY AN
>>MORON??? Come on everyone lets try to find out who this is!

>>Tom Wardell

>>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171

>Dear Tom,
>I could care less if this is you or someone who keeps posting under
>your name. I welcome you to my kill file. this way, i'll never even
>see another message from you & all the other Tom Wardell's.
>Hailing frequencies closed.
>Ed Martin
>Producer, Series Director
>NASCAR Racing League
>Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Ed,

Please look closer at the quotes, Tom was *flaming* the guy
(Eggman71) who posted the Indy track. While Tom's posts may
be of limited usefullness, I don't see why he, as a paying
customer of Papyrus/SOL (to the best of my knowledge), should
be cut off from your support offered here.

Pick one or more: Model Rockets (competition-NERCB) / PCs (even Atari!) /
Papyrus ICR-ICR2-NCR / Who needs a life when you have multiple non-lives?

by **Richard Walk** » Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>I could care less if this is you or someone who keeps posting under
>your name. I welcome you to my kill file. this way, i'll never even
>see another message from you & all the other Tom Wardell's.

Don't worry too much, Ed. He wasn't particular adept at what he was
doing. It looks like it must have taken him the better part of the day
to do what he did, and even then it didn't get as far as my ISP, at
least - a rather nice gentleman issued a bincancel to stop it
propagating through the 'net. Not that he did it because he realised
that it was infringing your copyright but simply because "eggman" was
being a prat and posting a large binary to a discussion newsgroup!

Richard

by **M Darrell You** » Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:00:00

writes:

>>>Here is the Indianapolis Motor Speedway track for Nascar and Indycar
>>>Racing II.
>>>Please allow at least 3 days for repost requests because the file is
>>>being forwarded through an anonymous re-mailing service in Finland.
>>>If anyone knows of any anonymous FTP servers that DO NOT keep logs
of
>>>uploads, please forward that info to me via email. If I find a truly
>>>anonymous ftp site, I will upload the file there.
>>>-=EggMan71=-

>>>--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENT
ON***
>>>Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically*
ANONYMIZED.

>>WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?? ARE YOU STUPID OR ARE YOU JUST PALILY AN
>>MORON??? Come on everyone lets try to find out who this is!

>>Tom Wardell

>>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171

>Dear Tom,

>I could care less if this is you or someone who keeps posting under
>your name. I welcome you to my kill file. this way, i'll never even
>see another message from you & all the other Tom Wardell's.

>Hailing frequencies closed.

>Ed Martin
>Producer, Series Director
>NASCAR Racing League
>Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Let me first say that most of what Tom has to say here I usually do not
agree with. This however seems to be someone taking heat for something
they did not do. I seem to recall not so long ago the same thing
happening to me. Which I might ad that when I e-mailed you Ed
concerning that; I did'nt even get as much as a reply back. My point
is; why should Tom be punished for the wrong doings of others? I agree
that there are some bad apples in this group that love nothing more
then causing problems but for the most part most people here try to
help each other and learn new things by visiting this group. Tom is an
example of someone that post to this group very often and while I
generally don't agree with his views; he has the right to voice his
views like everyone else. I do not think its fair for anyone to kill
his post "based" on something he claims to have no involvement in
including you. After all; he visits this group because he purchases and
enjoys simulators produced by your company. That in itself should be
enough for him to gain your respect and fair treatment. This is just my
view because I had a hard time excepting your post on this matter.
Anyone who disagrees is welcome to respond and I'm sure you will:)
Thanks to everyone who took the time to read this and HAPPY RACING!!!!!
Darrell

by **Tim Wortm** » Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:00:00

>Let me first say that most of what Tom has to say here I usually do not
>agree with. This however seems to be someone taking heat for something
>they did not do. I seem to recall not so long ago the same thing
>happening to me. Which I might ad that when I e-mailed you Ed
>concerning that; I did'nt even get as much as a reply back. My point
>is; why should Tom be punished for the wrong doings of others?

Get real....Tom dug a very deep hole a long time ago. I've spent
countless hours viewing his messages, his ranting and arguing, and
IMHO Tom needs to

A. Get a life
B. Finish high school
C. Change his name and service provider after A & B have been
completed.

_______________________________________
Tim Wortman

NASS '96 Series Director

Visit the NASS '96 home page
http://www.webcom.com/twortman/nasscar/
_______________________________________

by **Kai Fulle** » Fri, 23 Aug 1996 04:00:00

> >Let me first say that most of what Tom has to say here I usually do not
> >agree with. This however seems to be someone taking heat for something
> >they did not do. I seem to recall not so long ago the same thing
> >happening to me. Which I might ad that when I e-mailed you Ed
> >concerning that; I did'nt even get as much as a reply back. My point
> >is; why should Tom be punished for the wrong doings of others?

> Get real....Tom dug a very deep hole a long time ago. I've spent
> countless hours viewing his messages, his ranting and arguing, and
> IMHO Tom needs to

> A. Get a life
> B. Finish high school
> C. Change his name and service provider after A & B have been
> completed.

> _______________________________________
> Tim Wortman

> NASS '96 Series Director

> Visit the NASS '96 home page
> http://www.webcom.com/twortman/nasscar/
> _______________________________________

I would like to say as senior writer of Inside Nass 96' racing (inr),
that not all people in the Nass 96' series are as closed minded as Tim.

Poeple in this group need to:
a: Forvive
b: Forget
c: Learn to help people become better posters instead of kicking them
while their down.

--Kai Fuller
Senior Writer of INR
My oppinoins are not always the oppinion of INR.

by **John Wallac** » Sat, 24 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Or possibly...

a) Stop posting binaries where they shouldn't
b) Learn a little about what they're doing before doing it
c) Show a little respect for other's time, feelings etc.

(a) is a usenet thing, (b) and (c) are a common-sense thing - you don't
need to spend time on the internet to grasp "netiquette". It's just
"etiquette" practised on the 'net. Sadly no-one seems to know much about
it anymore...

Cheers!
John
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