rec.autos.simulators

by **Yoshihiko Minam** » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 07:06:50

Around 2001/09/02, Sierra Euro branch misunderstood about beta patch
and carried on their web site. After that, I read Papy had said they'll
release real one within one week....

And what? Is N4 patch abandoned???

I cannot stand with broken spotter and rough, reckless AI cars.

Y.Minami

by **Dave Henri** » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 09:30:23

I never saw any posts about releasing it within a week, but since they DO
plan on releasing an expansion pak, they DO want to release the 2nd patch.
Papy has never been a company that works quickly through a patching process.
Id they are not.
dave henrie

by **Bob Thurma** » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 10:47:33

But we don't have to down load 25 different "point
releases" at 20 to 30 megs each!

buzard

> I never saw any posts about releasing it within a week, but since they
DO
> plan on releasing an expansion pak, they DO want to release the 2nd patch.
> Papy has never been a company that works quickly through a patching
process.
> Id they are not.
> dave henrie

message

> > Around 2001/09/02, Sierra Euro branch misunderstood about beta patch
> > and carried on their web site. After that, I read Papy had said they'll
> > release real one within one week....

> > And what? Is N4 patch abandoned???

> > I cannot stand with broken spotter and rough, reckless AI cars.

> > Y.Minami

by **Mike Grand** » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 23:38:45

And what? Is N4 patch abandoned???

No it's not.

--

Michael K. Grandy
Non Stop Cable Services East, Inc
An Estancia Cable Partners Company

by **Yoshihiko Minam** » Sat, 06 Oct 2001 18:24:50

Really?

by **Tim Mise** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 01:55:43

I wonder if papy is planning a Nascar 5? Don't they usually release a new
one every year?...or is it every two years. If the former, they probably
applying most of their time to N5.

-Tim

> I never saw any posts about releasing it within a week, but since they
DO
> plan on releasing an expansion pak, they DO want to release the 2nd patch.
> Papy has never been a company that works quickly through a patching
process.
> Id they are not.
> dave henrie

message

> > Around 2001/09/02, Sierra Euro branch misunderstood about beta patch
> > and carried on their web site. After that, I read Papy had said they'll
> > release real one within one week....

> > And what? Is N4 patch abandoned???

> > I cannot stand with broken spotter and rough, reckless AI cars.

> > Y.Minami

by **Scott B. Huste** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 03:47:07

Good questions, but you don't get publicity or information too often from
Papy. Unlike most developers who have this concept of 'promoting' their
products ahead of time, Papy/Sierra don't seem too intent on doing so with
their upcoming products. They keep a pretty tight wrap on their plans.
Most likely a defense mechanism to avoid getting flamed to hell from missing
target dates, cancelling of projects, patches, etc.

Just for a contrast, look at how Codemasters announced Colin McRae Rally 3
or how far ahead we learned about Rally Trophy. We haven't heard anything
from Papyrus on upcoming projects since the release of N4

Perhaps they are still stinging from the "N3" at Christmas 98 was it? That
was really N2.5 but ended up being N4. ;)

Good, bad, or indifferent.

Scott
PA-Scott
PowerSimsMag.com

> I wonder if papy is planning a Nascar 5? Don't they usually release a new
> one every year?...or is it every two years. If the former, they probably
> applying most of their time to N5.

> -Tim

> > I never saw any posts about releasing it within a week, but since they
> DO
> > plan on releasing an expansion pak, they DO want to release the 2nd
patch.
> > Papy has never been a company that works quickly through a patching
> process.
> > Id they are not.
> > dave henrie

> message

> > > Around 2001/09/02, Sierra Euro branch misunderstood about beta patch
> > > and carried on their web site. After that, I read Papy had said
they'll
> > > release real one within one week....

> > > And what? Is N4 patch abandoned???

> > > I cannot stand with broken spotter and rough, reckless AI cars.

> > > Y.Minami

by **ymenar** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 04:08:02

Yep, like WSC.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Scott B. Huste** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 04:30:09

What, you don't have WSC YET? I've worn my TSW2 Modified out with it.
=)

Scott
PA-Scott

> > Unlike most developers who have this concept of 'promoting' their
> > products ahead of time

> Yep, like WSC.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Jim Benwa** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 04:31:22

Got this off Papy board dated Sept 26th

I have it on good authority that the new patch for N4 is due out in a
couple of weeks (just got off the phone with my contact at Sierra).
Hopefully it will address all of the issue that you raise here.

Cheers, Andy Mahood SimColumnist - PC Gamer Magazine

> Really?

> > And what? Is N4 patch abandoned???

> > No it's not

by **Mick** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 06:53:50

So, it'll be out next Tuesday.. Jim Benway says the new N4 Patch will be
out on Tuesday, Oct. 9th, 2001!!! ;-) J/K, You know how info like this
gets rumors started..heheh

> Got this off Papy board dated Sept 26th

> I have it on good authority that the new patch for N4 is due out in a
> couple of weeks (just got off the phone with my contact at Sierra).
> Hopefully it will address all of the issue that you raise here.

> Cheers, Andy Mahood SimColumnist - PC Gamer Magazine

by **Dave Henri** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 11:35:20

I think a-lot has to do with the COST of licensing. If you go about it
quietly and low key, you can finagle a fairly low price for each driver,
track billboard, etc. But if you make big announcements and grandiose
plans, then the holders of the products can play hardball and run-up the
price you pay for each driver, track, billboard, sponsor logo etc.
dave henrie