rec.autos.simulators

> I myself have big problems keeping the tail on the RWD in the tarmac, im
all
> over the place and have to opposite lock most of the times not to go off
the
> track.

> > Hi,

> > I downloaded a "fast" rallyX replay today - 1:11:22 was the time for one
> lap
> > in a turbo. What dissapointed me was the attitude of the car into the
> > corners on dirt. This was the same as on tarmac, nice clean line with
> > neutral handling - almost no steering lock at all. In fact I didn't even
> see
> > any opposite lock coming out of the dirt corners.

> > I RallyCrossed many RWD cars for many years, and as anyone who has even
> > watched them on TV will assert, driving without oversteer on dirt is a
> very
> > slow way around the track in reality, but unfortunately appears to be
the
> > fastest on LFS.

> > There are many reasons to throw a car sideways under brakes (or scando)
in
> > corners. First up is that*** the tail slows you down a hell of a
lot
> > faster than braking in a straight line, as you build up resistance from
> > pushing the gravel ahead of 4 offset tyres instead of just the front 2.
> Then
> > with the car nicely set up for the corner, you can power on much
earlier,
> as
> > the throttle is helping push the car around the corner.

> > One disclaimer - due to my bad FPS rate at the moment, I haven't had a
> > chance to drive in LFS smoothly myself, so am relying on watching the
> > replays of others. I know that LFS has astoundingly good physics on
> tarmac,
> > but would any other real world rally drivers care to comment on their
> > impressions of the dirt handling?

> > Thanks,
> > Tim

> Man, I can't wait to graduate.  I hate this FWD ***:)

> -Larry

> > Just cause the guy in the replay doesnt use opposite lock, you cant
really
> > turn it down. This is just a early demo / alpha, at v0.04, we cant
expect
> > miracles yet.

> > I myself have big problems keeping the tail on the RWD in the tarmac, im
> all
> > over the place and have to opposite lock most of the times not to go off
> the
> > track.

> > > Hi,

> > > I downloaded a "fast" rallyX replay today - 1:11:22 was the time for
one
> > lap
> > > in a turbo. What dissapointed me was the attitude of the car into the
> > > corners on dirt. This was the same as on tarmac, nice clean line with
> > > neutral handling - almost no steering lock at all. In fact I didn't
even
> > see
> > > any opposite lock coming out of the dirt corners.

> > > I RallyCrossed many RWD cars for many years, and as anyone who has
even
> > > watched them on TV will assert, driving without oversteer on dirt is a
> > very
> > > slow way around the track in reality, but unfortunately appears to be
> the
> > > fastest on LFS.

> > > There are many reasons to throw a car sideways under brakes (or
scando)
> in
> > > corners. First up is that*** the tail slows you down a hell of a
> lot
> > > faster than braking in a straight line, as you build up resistance
from
> > > pushing the gravel ahead of 4 offset tyres instead of just the front
2.
> > Then
> > > with the car nicely set up for the corner, you can power on much
> earlier,
> > as
> > > the throttle is helping push the car around the corner.

> > > One disclaimer - due to my bad FPS rate at the moment, I haven't had a
> > > chance to drive in LFS smoothly myself, so am relying on watching the
> > > replays of others. I know that LFS has astoundingly good physics on
> > tarmac,
> > > but would any other real world rally drivers care to comment on their
> > > impressions of the dirt handling?

> > > Thanks,
> > > Tim

> Selected Car XR GT TURBO

> Simple as that.

> Tim

> > I take it the turbo is a RWD?

> > Man, I can't wait to graduate.  I hate this FWD ***:)

> > -Larry

> > > Just cause the guy in the replay doesnt use opposite lock, you cant
> really
> > > turn it down. This is just a early demo / alpha, at v0.04, we cant
> expect
> > > miracles yet.

> > > I myself have big problems keeping the tail on the RWD in the tarmac,
im
> > all
> > > over the place and have to opposite lock most of the times not to go
off
> > the
> > > track.

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I downloaded a "fast" rallyX replay today - 1:11:22 was the time for
> one
> > > lap
> > > > in a turbo. What dissapointed me was the attitude of the car into
the
> > > > corners on dirt. This was the same as on tarmac, nice clean line
with
> > > > neutral handling - almost no steering lock at all. In fact I didn't
> even
> > > see
> > > > any opposite lock coming out of the dirt corners.

> > > > I RallyCrossed many RWD cars for many years, and as anyone who has
> even
> > > > watched them on TV will assert, driving without oversteer on dirt is
a
> > > very
> > > > slow way around the track in reality, but unfortunately appears to
be
> > the
> > > > fastest on LFS.

> > > > There are many reasons to throw a car sideways under brakes (or
> scando)
> > in
> > > > corners. First up is that*** the tail slows you down a hell of
a
> > lot
> > > > faster than braking in a straight line, as you build up resistance
> from
> > > > pushing the gravel ahead of 4 offset tyres instead of just the front
> 2.
> > > Then
> > > > with the car nicely set up for the corner, you can power on much
> > earlier,
> > > as
> > > > the throttle is helping push the car around the corner.

> > > > One disclaimer - due to my bad FPS rate at the moment, I haven't had
a
> > > > chance to drive in LFS smoothly myself, so am relying on watching
the
> > > > replays of others. I know that LFS has astoundingly good physics on
> > > tarmac,
> > > > but would any other real world rally drivers care to comment on
their
> > > > impressions of the dirt handling?

> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Tim

> Selected Car XR GT TURBO

> Simple as that.

> Tim

> > I take it the turbo is a RWD?

> > Man, I can't wait to graduate.  I hate this FWD ***:)

> > -Larry

> > > Just cause the guy in the replay doesnt use opposite lock, you cant
> really
> > > turn it down. This is just a early demo / alpha, at v0.04, we cant
> expect
> > > miracles yet.

> > > I myself have big problems keeping the tail on the RWD in the tarmac, im
> > all
> > > over the place and have to opposite lock most of the times not to go off
> > the
> > > track.

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I downloaded a "fast" rallyX replay today - 1:11:22 was the time for
> one
> > > lap
> > > > in a turbo. What dissapointed me was the attitude of the car into the
> > > > corners on dirt. This was the same as on tarmac, nice clean line with
> > > > neutral handling - almost no steering lock at all. In fact I didn't
> even
> > > see
> > > > any opposite lock coming out of the dirt corners.

> > > > I RallyCrossed many RWD cars for many years, and as anyone who has
> even
> > > > watched them on TV will assert, driving without oversteer on dirt is a
> > > very
> > > > slow way around the track in reality, but unfortunately appears to be
> > the
> > > > fastest on LFS.

> > > > There are many reasons to throw a car sideways under brakes (or
> scando)
> > in
> > > > corners. First up is that*** the tail slows you down a hell of a
> > lot
> > > > faster than braking in a straight line, as you build up resistance
> from
> > > > pushing the gravel ahead of 4 offset tyres instead of just the front
> 2.
> > > Then
> > > > with the car nicely set up for the corner, you can power on much
> > earlier,
> > > as
> > > > the throttle is helping push the car around the corner.

> > > > One disclaimer - due to my bad FPS rate at the moment, I haven't had a
> > > > chance to drive in LFS smoothly myself, so am relying on watching the
> > > > replays of others. I know that LFS has astoundingly good physics on
> > > tarmac,
> > > > but would any other real world rally drivers care to comment on their
> > > > impressions of the dirt handling?

> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Tim

> What fun would that be unless you earn your way to it.  It only takes a few hours at best to get
> enough credits to reach the Turbo

> "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
> alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
> the....." - Ash

> > er.. then edit cfg.txt and change selected car line to:

> > Selected Car XR GT TURBO

> > Simple as that.

> > Tim

> > > I take it the turbo is a RWD?

> > > Man, I can't wait to graduate.  I hate this FWD ***:)

> > > -Larry

> > > > Just cause the guy in the replay doesnt use opposite lock, you cant
> > really
> > > > turn it down. This is just a early demo / alpha, at v0.04, we cant
> > expect
> > > > miracles yet.

> > > > I myself have big problems keeping the tail on the RWD in the
tarmac, im
> > > all
> > > > over the place and have to opposite lock most of the times not to go
off
> > > the
> > > > track.

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > > I downloaded a "fast" rallyX replay today - 1:11:22 was the time
for
> > one
> > > > lap
> > > > > in a turbo. What dissapointed me was the attitude of the car into
the
> > > > > corners on dirt. This was the same as on tarmac, nice clean line
with
> > > > > neutral handling - almost no steering lock at all. In fact I
didn't
> > even
> > > > see
> > > > > any opposite lock coming out of the dirt corners.

> > > > > I RallyCrossed many RWD cars for many years, and as anyone who has
> > even
> > > > > watched them on TV will assert, driving without oversteer on dirt
is a
> > > > very
> > > > > slow way around the track in reality, but unfortunately appears to
be
> > > the
> > > > > fastest on LFS.

> > > > > There are many reasons to throw a car sideways under brakes (or
> > scando)
> > > in
> > > > > corners. First up is that*** the tail slows you down a hell
of a
> > > lot
> > > > > faster than braking in a straight line, as you build up resistance
> > from
> > > > > pushing the gravel ahead of 4 offset tyres instead of just the
front
> > 2.
> > > > Then
> > > > > with the car nicely set up for the corner, you can power on much
> > > earlier,
> > > > as
> > > > > the throttle is helping push the car around the corner.

> > > > > One disclaimer - due to my bad FPS rate at the moment, I haven't
had a
> > > > > chance to drive in LFS smoothly myself, so am relying on watching
the
> > > > > replays of others. I know that LFS has astoundingly good physics
on
> > > > tarmac,
> > > > > but would any other real world rally drivers care to comment on
their
> > > > > impressions of the dirt handling?

> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Tim

> I downloaded a "fast" rallyX replay today - 1:11:22 was the time for one lap
> in a turbo. What dissapointed me was the attitude of the car into the
> corners on dirt. This was the same as on tarmac, nice clean line with
> neutral handling - almost no steering lock at all. In fact I didn't even see
> any opposite lock coming out of the dirt corners.

> I RallyCrossed many RWD cars for many years, and as anyone who has even
> watched them on TV will assert, driving without oversteer on dirt is a very
> slow way around the track in reality, but unfortunately appears to be the
> fastest on LFS.

> There are many reasons to throw a car sideways under brakes (or scando) in
> corners. First up is that*** the tail slows you down a hell of a lot
> faster than braking in a straight line, as you build up resistance from
> pushing the gravel ahead of 4 offset tyres instead of just the front 2. Then
> with the car nicely set up for the corner, you can power on much earlier, as
> the throttle is helping push the car around the corner.

> One disclaimer - due to my bad FPS rate at the moment, I haven't had a
> chance to drive in LFS smoothly myself, so am relying on watching the
> replays of others. I know that LFS has astoundingly good physics on tarmac,
> but would any other real world rally drivers care to comment on their
> impressions of the dirt handling?

> Thanks,
> Tim