http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Does anybody have any inside information on this? What is going on?
Can we look to EA to keep the Papyrus tradition alive?
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David G Fisher
> http://www.easports.com/games/nascarsimracing/home.jsp
> Does anybody have any inside information on this? What is going on?
> Can we look to EA to keep the Papyrus tradition alive?
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> Shock
> http://www.easports.com/games/nascarsimracing/home.jsp
> Does anybody have any inside information on this? What is going on?
> Can we look to EA to keep the Papyrus tradition alive?
> --
> Shock
> http://www.easports.com/games/nascarsimracing/home.jsp
> Does anybody have any inside information on this? What is going on? Can
> we look to EA to keep the Papyrus tradition alive?
> --
> Shock
> http://www.easports.com/games/nascarsimracing/home.jsp
> Does anybody have any inside information on this? What is going on? Can
> we look to EA to keep the Papyrus tradition alive?
> --
> Shock
:I refuse to purchase an EA game due to their business practices with
: exclusive licenses. This includes Nascar SimRacing.
:
:
: > Ok, correct me if I am wrong, but I think EA has made a good decision by
: > hiring former Papyrus employees. Also, it appears that possibly they
are
: > taking already written code and putting a EA face on a Papyrus engine.
: > Here's a link:
: >
: > http://www.easports.com/games/nascarsimracing/home.jsp
: >
: > Does anybody have any inside information on this? What is going on? Can
: > we look to EA to keep the Papyrus tradition alive?
: >
: > --
: > Shock
:
:
> :I refuse to purchase an EA game due to their business practices with
> : exclusive licenses. This includes Nascar SimRacing.
> :
> :
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> > This is kinda funny. Takes two to make an exclusive license agreement,
> and
> > just who do you think was really in the driver's seat on a deal like
this?
> > Also I wonder just how upset EA's stockholders are. Trading at 44 in
> > October, close to 60 now.
I love top posting.
>> Lol, no kidding. Blaming EA (or anyone for that matter) is hilarious.
>> > This is kinda funny. Takes two to make an exclusive license agreement,
>> and
>> > just who do you think was really in the driver's seat on a deal like
>this?
>> > Also I wonder just how upset EA's stockholders are. Trading at 44 in
>> > October, close to 60 now.
>Exclusive licensing agreements suck for the consumer. Before, we had several
>choices and competition in Nascar sims and games and now we have one console
>game and one PC sim to choose from.
How is that better? I blame Nascar and
You won't blow a freaking measily $50-$70 on a damn game? Better to spend time
this way?? If you'll be sorely missed as a customer I'm sure someone will let
you know ASAP.
They know they have the deep pockets to afford
Politics of sim racing and development... Gotta be kidding me...?
Nobody can stop you :-)
Todd Wasson
Racing Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.com
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm
> > Lol, no kidding. Blaming EA (or anyone for that matter) is
hilarious.
> > > This is kinda funny. Takes two to make an exclusive license
agreement,
> > and
> > > just who do you think was really in the driver's seat on a deal like
> this?
> > > Also I wonder just how upset EA's stockholders are. Trading at 44 in
> > > October, close to 60 now.
> Exclusive licensing agreements suck for the consumer. Before, we had
several
> choices and competition in Nascar sims and games and now we have one
console
> game and one PC sim to choose from. How is that better? I blame Nascar and
> the NFL for going for the cash grab instead of thinking of the people that
> their businesses are built on. The fans. EA has been begging for these
> exclusive deals for years. They know they have the deep pockets to afford
> them and what better way to beat your competition than to just take them
out
> of the game.
> I love top posting.
Regarding the rest of your post, if you think any major sports org,
especially Nascar, cares about the fans, at least the fans in the sense of
you and I, I got a bridge to sell ya.
In terms of exclusive licenses, who cares.
Let's do a hypothetical (or maybe not) Nascar board meeting regarding
licensing for the future....
Suits: Chief, it's again time to decide what pc *** company should get
our license.
Chief: Right. Who's the contenders this year.
Suits: Same as the last several years; Sierra/Papyrus and EA Sports.
Chief: Right. I want input.
Suits: Sierra/Papyrus have had a license since 1994. EA Sports since
1998, for the pc.
Chief: Right. Opinions ?
Suits: While having a license for a shorter time, EA has completely
sponsored several of our races each year for the last few years, as well as
having contigency sponsorships with many of the teams. Also have hosted
hospitality events at the races, as well as having a deal with the TV
networks, where the latest EA game is used for demonstrations.
They've shown a real desire to work with us, to benefit both
parties.
Chief: Right. Impressive. What about this Sierra/Papyrus ? What have
they done with/for us, besides using our license ?
Suit: I know who I'd want to have my license.
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.........................
>>> Lol, no kidding. Blaming EA (or anyone for that matter) is
> hilarious.
>>>>This is kinda funny. Takes two to make an exclusive license
> agreement,
>>>and
>>>>just who do you think was really in the driver's seat on a deal like
>>this?
>>>>Also I wonder just how upset EA's stockholders are. Trading at 44 in
>>>>October, close to 60 now.
>>Exclusive licensing agreements suck for the consumer. Before, we had
> several
>>choices and competition in Nascar sims and games and now we have one
> console
>>game and one PC sim to choose from. How is that better? I blame Nascar and
>>the NFL for going for the cash grab instead of thinking of the people that
>>their businesses are built on. The fans. EA has been begging for these
>>exclusive deals for years. They know they have the deep pockets to afford
>>them and what better way to beat your competition than to just take them
> out
>>of the game.
>>I love top posting.
> Glad you're ***about posting methods. Try getting out more.
> Regarding the rest of your post, if you think any major sports org,
> especially Nascar, cares about the fans, at least the fans in the sense of
> you and I, I got a bridge to sell ya.
> In terms of exclusive licenses, who cares.
> Let's do a hypothetical (or maybe not) Nascar board meeting regarding
> licensing for the future....
> Suits: Chief, it's again time to decide what pc *** company should get
> our license.
> Chief: Right. Who's the contenders this year.
> Suits: Same as the last several years; Sierra/Papyrus and EA Sports.
> Chief: Right. I want input.
> Suits: Sierra/Papyrus have had a license since 1994. EA Sports since
> 1998, for the pc.
> Chief: Right. Opinions ?
> Suits: While having a license for a shorter time, EA has completely
> sponsored several of our races each year for the last few years, as well as
> having contigency sponsorships with many of the teams. Also have hosted
> hospitality events at the races, as well as having a deal with the TV
> networks, where the latest EA game is used for demonstrations.
> They've shown a real desire to work with us, to benefit both
> parties.
> Chief: Right. Impressive. What about this Sierra/Papyrus ? What have
> they done with/for us, besides using our license ?
> Suit: > I know who I'd want to have my license.
> <silence>..................................................................
> .........................
Mr. B
Right on the money, JP, just one additional comment I would add: Chief (aka: Bill France Jr): Who can possibly afford the outrageous fees --Bob
:
: >
: > > Lol, no kidding. Blaming EA (or anyone for that matter) is
: hilarious.
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > > > This is kinda funny. Takes two to make an exclusive license
: agreement,
: > > and
: > > > just who do you think was really in the driver's seat on a deal like
: > this?
: > > > Also I wonder just how upset EA's stockholders are. Trading at 44
in
: > > > October, close to 60 now.
: >
: > Exclusive licensing agreements suck for the consumer. Before, we had
: several
: > choices and competition in Nascar sims and games and now we have one
: console
: > game and one PC sim to choose from. How is that better? I blame Nascar
and
: > the NFL for going for the cash grab instead of thinking of the people
that
: > their businesses are built on. The fans. EA has been begging for these
: > exclusive deals for years. They know they have the deep pockets to
afford
: > them and what better way to beat your competition than to just take them
: out
: > of the game.
: >
: > I love top posting.
: >
:
: Glad you're ***about posting methods. Try getting out more.
:
: Regarding the rest of your post, if you think any major sports org,
: especially Nascar, cares about the fans, at least the fans in the sense of
: you and I, I got a bridge to sell ya.
:
: In terms of exclusive licenses, who cares.
:
: Let's do a hypothetical (or maybe not) Nascar board meeting regarding
: licensing for the future....
:
: Suits: Chief, it's again time to decide what pc *** company should
get
: our license.
:
: Chief: Right. Who's the contenders this year.
:
: Suits: Same as the last several years; Sierra/Papyrus and EA Sports.
:
: Chief: Right. I want input.
:
: Suits: Sierra/Papyrus have had a license since 1994. EA Sports since
: 1998, for the pc.
:
: Chief: Right. Opinions ?
:
: Suits: While having a license for a shorter time, EA has completely
: sponsored several of our races each year for the last few years, as well
as
: having contigency sponsorships with many of the teams. Also have hosted
: hospitality events at the races, as well as having a deal with the TV
: networks, where the latest EA game is used for demonstrations.
: They've shown a real desire to work with us, to benefit both
: parties.
:
: Chief: Right. Impressive. What about this Sierra/Papyrus ? What have
: they done with/for us, besides using our license ?
:
: Suit:
:
<silence>..................................................................
: .........................
:
:
: I know who I'd want to have my license.
I'm going to demand?
> :
> : >
> : > > Lol, no kidding. Blaming EA (or anyone for that matter) is
> : hilarious.
> : > >
> : > >
> : > >
> : > > > This is kinda funny. Takes two to make an exclusive license
> : agreement,
> : > > and
> : > > > just who do you think was really in the driver's seat on a deal
like
> : > this?
> : > > > Also I wonder just how upset EA's stockholders are. Trading at 44
> in
> : > > > October, close to 60 now.
> : >
> : > Exclusive licensing agreements suck for the consumer. Before, we had
> : several
> : > choices and competition in Nascar sims and games and now we have one
> : console
> : > game and one PC sim to choose from. How is that better? I blame Nascar
> and
> : > the NFL for going for the cash grab instead of thinking of the people
> that
> : > their businesses are built on. The fans. EA has been begging for these
> : > exclusive deals for years. They know they have the deep pockets to
> afford
> : > them and what better way to beat your competition than to just take
them
> : out
> : > of the game.
> : >
> : > I love top posting.
> : >
> :
> : Glad you're ***about posting methods. Try getting out more.
> :
> : Regarding the rest of your post, if you think any major sports org,
> : especially Nascar, cares about the fans, at least the fans in the sense
of
> : you and I, I got a bridge to sell ya.
> :
> : In terms of exclusive licenses, who cares.
> :
> : Let's do a hypothetical (or maybe not) Nascar board meeting regarding
> : licensing for the future....
> :
> : Suits: Chief, it's again time to decide what pc *** company should
> get
> : our license.
> :
> : Chief: Right. Who's the contenders this year.
> :
> : Suits: Same as the last several years; Sierra/Papyrus and EA Sports.
> :
> : Chief: Right. I want input.
> :
> : Suits: Sierra/Papyrus have had a license since 1994. EA Sports since
> : 1998, for the pc.
> :
> : Chief: Right. Opinions ?
> :
> : Suits: While having a license for a shorter time, EA has completely
> : sponsored several of our races each year for the last few years, as well
> as
> : having contigency sponsorships with many of the teams. Also have hosted
> : hospitality events at the races, as well as having a deal with the TV
> : networks, where the latest EA game is used for demonstrations.
> : They've shown a real desire to work with us, to benefit
both
> : parties.
> :
> : Chief: Right. Impressive. What about this Sierra/Papyrus ? What
have
> : they done with/for us, besides using our license ?
> :
> : Suit:
> :
Yep, very true.
