Has it been that long since NASCAR ran restrictor plates at Loudon, or
are you just short of memory today Mr Henrie?
Also, you should be working on GPL instead of posting sir. I'm now a
full 2 seconds ahead of you at Zandy and I suck.
Jason
-Larry
> > Did you catch the blurb from one of the announcers? "We have to run
> > restrictor plates here or the cars would be running 230." Here's a news
> > flash. The cars SHOULD be running 230. If the current crop of million
> > dollar spoon fed prima donnas don't want to drive Tally at 230 put
> > drivers in the cars who do.
> > I think the late Dale Earnhardt spelled out my views on restrictor
> > plate racing best.
> > "This is not racing".
> > GJ
> While the drivers should have a say in thier own safety, I think you
will
> find the track owners, league officials and, most importantly, the
Insurers
> will have final say in SS speeds. Remember cars were LEAVING the speedway
in
> the old days. Until the tracks can be made safer, the cars must be held
> back.
> In that vein, would just FLATTENING the two tracks fix
> everything? if the banking was single digit like Loudon or Indy, wouldn't
> that remove any problem with the cars going tooooooo fast?
> dave henrie
-Larry
> Also, you should be working on GPL instead of posting sir. I'm now a
> full 2 seconds ahead of you at Zandy and I suck.
> Jason
-Larry
> > Did you catch the blurb from one of the announcers? "We have to run
> > restrictor plates here or the cars would be running 230." Here's a news
> > flash. The cars SHOULD be running 230. If the current crop of million
> > dollar spoon fed prima donnas don't want to drive Tally at 230 put
> > drivers in the cars who do.
> > I think the late Dale Earnhardt spelled out my views on restrictor
> > plate racing best.
> > "This is not racing".
> I'm with him, but uncapping the cars and letting them run 230 is a bad
idea.
> Something needs to be done that allows them to hold the speeds down but
also
> allows a car on its own to run nearly as fast as a car in the draft.
Maybe
> skinnier or harder tires? Power reduction isn't the way, and I don't
think
> aero is either, because adding drag just makes the cars even better as a
> draft.
> Maybe a maximum rollout? One that would allow, say, 205mph laps at the
> typical near-valvefloat RPMs of an unrestricted engine? Allow teams to
run
> shorter ratios if they want, but nothing taller...
> Just ideas.
> Milhouse
> > In that vein, would just FLATTENING the two tracks fix
> >everything? if the banking was single digit like Loudon or Indy,
wouldn't
> >that remove any problem with the cars going tooooooo fast?
> Has it been that long since NASCAR ran restrictor plates at Loudon, or
> are you just short of memory today Mr Henrie?
> Also, you should be working on GPL instead of posting sir. I'm now a
> full 2 seconds ahead of you at Zandy and I suck.
> Jason
Yeah, and at the expense of ANYTHING resembling exciting racing as the race
drew on.
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Jason
I was watching the Talladega race on TV when Bobby Allison cut a tire and
*nearly* flew into the grandstands. That fence probably saved the lives of
hundreds of people, and it was lucky that the car didn't hit a fraction
differently. While I'd *love* to see how fast the cars could actually go, I
understand why they can never let them get that fast again.
Eldred
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> > The Tally track was designed specifically for 200+ speeds. After Bill
> >Elliot qualified at, what 212?, rather than going back to the shop and
> >working on thier cars to be competitive, the teams and drivers simply
> >whined to the officials to lower the speeds of the top cars and voila we
> >have restrictor plate racing where everyone can run with the lead pack.
> Talladega was built in 1969. While they may have hoped the cars would
> eventually get to 200+mph, I'm not sure the track was specifically
DESIGNED for
> that...
> > For those who actually saw Daytona and Tally before restrictor
> >plates, I can only hope someday someone will realize that watching a
> >pack of cars drive around at 183 on a track designed for 200+ is just
> >damn boring and I might actually watch an exciting speedway race again.
> I was watching the Talladega race on TV when Bobby Allison cut a tire and
> *nearly* flew into the grandstands. That fence probably saved the lives
of
> hundreds of people, and it was lucky that the car didn't hit a fraction
> differently. While I'd *love* to see how fast the cars could actually go,
I
> understand why they can never let them get that fast again.
> Eldred
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> with experience...
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John
What about adding a dogleg on the backstretch, like they did at Watkins
Glen.
Could you picture that ?
Jason
Since practicing with the AI is generally useless here, I decided to go
online and run some open races at Dega (with my alternate screen name, of
course. No more open with my main screen name). It was ***y dreadful.
It was the same every single race. The flag would drop, every peckerhead up
front would drop to the low line, and just run around in circles with the
left tires on the line the entire way around the entire race.
There was no racing. You basically finished where you qualed unless you got
lucky or someone ahead of you crashed out.
If you _did_ try to go high and pass, the car behind you would just slip
underneath and steal your spot instead of going with you and trying to get
somewhere.
B o r i n g :(
Man, I don't know what started this mentality, but it's not racing. It's
ring-around-the-rosie.
I now understand whey there are so many incidents in open races. People are
losing their damned minds and adopting "Block me and you pay" attitudes.
Ugly stuff...
All the SS races I need are here on Rascar from now on.
-Larry
> > Yeah, and at the expense of ANYTHING resembling exciting racing as the
> race
> > drew on.
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> > Dan Belcher
> > Webmaster,
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Amazingly, I've yet to be in a pickup race at a plate track where everyone
hugged the low line. If I did go high, someone went with me. Unfortunately,
there's always an opening laps crash, terrible start that makes me lose the
draft, or something stupid like that.
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