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(OFF TOPIC) Formula One is just a boring procession

Zonk

(OFF TOPIC) Formula One is just a boring procession

by Zonk » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>> David Hobbs and Derek Daly are incorrect?

David Hobbs, a British rtacing driver, Did a few F1 gp's in the late 60's
early 70's.

Derek Daly is an Irish Driver, raced for Tyrrell hmm late 70's.

They both commentate now 8)

Well in the past for espn, but not sure who now.

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Trey Beh

(OFF TOPIC) Formula One is just a boring procession

by Trey Beh » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>How about
>making the figure-8 Suzuka a *real* figure 8!

If anyone can do this, it's Alex Zanardi :)

Trey Behan

John Walla

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by John Walla » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>Why, John?

If they pass on incorrect information then they're incorrect, don't
you think?

Eddie was born in Northern Ireland (U.K.) and is a British citizen -
he holds an Irish racing license and now lives in Dublin. He now
"considers himself" as Irish. For podiums the Irish tricolour and the
Union Jack are alternated.

Now I may consider myself a Bolivian but it doesn't change the fact
that I'm legally British. For that matter I may consider myself
Scottish (and indeed do), but I'm British in the eyes of the world. It
may seem a small distinction, but as a British protestant born in
Northern Ireland, raising a tricolour and calling yourself Irish is
the sort of thing that has been getting people killed in Northern
Ireland for the past 30 odd years. Utterly stupid it may be
considered, but there you go.

Cheers!
John

David Ewin

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by David Ewin » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00



> > David Hobbs and Derek Daly are incorrect?

> Ok, so I can't stand it anymore and I've got to show my ignorance.
> Who are David Hobbs and Derek Daly?

David Hobbs and Derek Daly are former drivers who are now TV
commentators.  Derek Daly is a former F1 driver from Ireland now on
Speedvision's F1 coverage with Sam Posey (a former Can-Am driver).  He
drove in the late 70's / early 80's for Tyrrell, March, Williams and a
couple of other smaller outfits.  David Hobbs drove a little F1 (late
60's / early 70's - BRM, Honda, McLaren), as well as other formulae.  In
fact, he was even an entry in the 1967 British Grand Prix at Silverstone
(GPL reference), driving a BRM.  He switches off with Derek Bell (yet
another former driver - most famous for his success at Le Mans) on Fox
Sports F1 coverage.

That said - man, the coverage on both Speedvision and Fox Sports was
weak for the Australian GP, particularly Fox.  I watched the Speedvision
coverage live at my neighbors house and then watched a bit of the replay
the next morning.  Neither team of commentators noticed the smoke
filling the air (coming from the Stewarts) before the start of the
race.  The guys on Fox never noticed that both Stewarts were having the
identical problem.  They thought it was just Johnny Herbert, even though
the camera shots showed the cars in different places and the drivers
talking to different people.  Neither team explained why it was okay for
half the field to pass Mika Hakkinen at the start of the parade lap.
Fox completely missed the restart during a commercial (when Irvine and
the rest of the leaders swarmed by Hakkinen).  Then when they showed the
replay of the restart, they prattled on about how F1 drivers just aren't
used to these re-starts, even though it was obvious that Hakkinen was
having mechanical trouble.

At least Murray Walker's numerous mistakes sound amusing. I hope the
coverage is better in other parts of the world.

Dave Ewing

Graeme Nas

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by Graeme Nas » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00

In the UK it's great. Our coverage on ITV has its critics but I like it.
I miss the BBC's advert-free races but we have so much more now. At
least half an hour's build-up, at least 15 minutes of analysis. Also
interviews, press conferences and what I think is the best commentary
team on TV.
And with satellite TV I watch the German coverage during the ad-breaks.
My German isn't that great but I get most of it :-)

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Wosc

(OFF TOPIC) Formula One is just a boring procession

by Wosc » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00

no, paula jones, get it....cricket cricket

Jesse


>I'm afraid you've lost me completely. Do you mean that "Paul Jones" is a
common
>name? I had a mate called John Smith at university. We had to sign in to
some
>event and both gave our names and the girl behind the till gave us a look
that
>meant, "What are you two trying to hide?". There are 3 Paul Joneses where I
>work.
>Cheers,
>Paul


>> I have to ask you (off topic) do you ever get stopped and have you repeat
>> your name again when you meet someone?

>> Jesse


>> >Ooooh! Now we're on difficult political water here. Depends whether
you're
>> a
>> >Unionist or a Republican - and I am neither. He hails from Northern
>> Ireland,
>> >which is technically part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
>> >Northern Ireland and they played the British national athem under a
Union
>> >flag for his victory. However he now lives in Dublin.
>> >Does it matter, though? I hate petty nationalism and tribalism. I just
said
>> >British to make a point - I take no view at all.
>> >Cheers,
>> >Paul


>> >> Hi Paul,


>> >> >In the way that all the cars go around the track in the same
direction.
>> >> >Even if some seer had seen in his/her crystal ball that this year's
>> >> >Australian Grand Prix would have been won by a Brit with a German in
>> >> >second, who would have been able to predict that the Brit would be
>> >> >Irvine (not Coulthard) and the German, Frentzen (and not Schumacher).

>> >> Nobody I guess.....The reason could be that Irvine is Irish. :-)

>> >> Remco

Mike Rodrigue

(OFF TOPIC) Formula One is just a boring procession

by Mike Rodrigue » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I know. It's pretty ***ing sad when you notice things the paid
"professional" comentators miss. What burns me up even more is when the
commentators try to make something out of nothing.

Take the finish on Speedvision, for instance. I don't know who those dorks
were, but they were all doom and gloom for Eddie, especially on the camera
showing the S/F straight "He's not going to make it!" "Blather blather
blather" Fools.

Fox was slightly better, but as you say, they totally missed the Stewart
plight. Also missed why Johnny didn't get the spare car (worse qualifying
time). And they totally left Jordan out of the picture until HH was
obviously going to finish on the podium.

I swear, if it weren't for the engine sounds, I'd just as soon turn the
sound down during a GP since Bob Varsha stopped commentating. BTW, Varsha is
not (I could be wrong) a former driver-turned-commentator, but he is (was)
extremely well-educated on the shenanigans of teams and the histories of the
current crop of drivers. Maybe his writers left when he did, I don't know,
but I sure miss the semi-intelligent on-the-spot analysis he gave.

But that's just me.

Mikey
Avetikus Racing

|That said - man, the coverage on both Speedvision and Fox Sports was
|weak for the Australian GP, particularly Fox.  I watched the Speedvision
|coverage live at my neighbors house and then watched a bit of the replay
|the next morning.  Neither team of commentators noticed the smoke
|filling the air (coming from the Stewarts) before the start of the
|race.  The guys on Fox never noticed that both Stewarts were having the
|identical problem.  They thought it was just Johnny Herbert, even though
|the camera shots showed the cars in different places and the drivers
|talking to different people.  Neither team explained why it was okay for
|half the field to pass Mika Hakkinen at the start of the parade lap.
|Fox completely missed the restart during a commercial (when Irvine and
|the rest of the leaders swarmed by Hakkinen).  Then when they showed the
|replay of the restart, they prattled on about how F1 drivers just aren't
|used to these re-starts, even though it was obvious that Hakkinen was
|having mechanical trouble.
|
|At least Murray Walker's numerous mistakes sound amusing. I hope the
|coverage is better in other parts of the world.
|
|Dave Ewing

Dean

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by Dean » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>I know. It's pretty ***ing sad when you notice things the paid
>"professional" comentators miss. What burns me up even more is when the
>commentators try to make something out of nothing.

Talking of this I noticed Ralph's right hand bargeboard go under his car and
flying out the back about 5 laps from the end and no-one mentioned it at
all.

Dean

Mark C Dod

(OFF TOPIC) Formula One is just a boring procession

by Mark C Dod » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I believe he wears the green and orange on his helmet to show no
particular religious or political bent. Perhaps Formula 1 would be better
off doing as Masons do at there meetings and ban all discussion of
religion and politics so everybody is considered equal and no bad feelings
ensue.


> >Why, John?

> If they pass on incorrect information then they're incorrect, don't
> you think?

> Eddie was born in Northern Ireland (U.K.) and is a British citizen -
> he holds an Irish racing license and now lives in Dublin. He now
> "considers himself" as Irish. For podiums the Irish tricolour and the
> Union Jack are alternated.

> Now I may consider myself a Bolivian but it doesn't change the fact
> that I'm legally British. For that matter I may consider myself
> Scottish (and indeed do), but I'm British in the eyes of the world. It
> may seem a small distinction, but as a British protestant born in
> Northern Ireland, raising a tricolour and calling yourself Irish is
> the sort of thing that has been getting people killed in Northern
> Ireland for the past 30 odd years. Utterly stupid it may be
> considered, but there you go.

> Cheers!
> John

Mark C Dod

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by Mark C Dod » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I am yet to see a good commentator for Cars or Bikes wether on Free to Air or
Cable. The best I ever heard was Wayne Gardner but his driving commitments
replaced his Motrocycle commentary. Event he on track commentators are not as
good as they used to be because they rely too much on what the monitors are
showing them. In the old days they had spotters and binoculars.


> >I know. It's pretty ***ing sad when you notice things the paid
> >"professional" comentators miss. What burns me up even more is when the
> >commentators try to make something out of nothing.

> Talking of this I noticed Ralph's right hand bargeboard go under his car and
> flying out the back about 5 laps from the end and no-one mentioned it at
> all.

> Dean

Paul Jone

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by Paul Jone » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

The best I've heard is unquestionably Martin Brundle on ITV. He picks up on almost
everything and gives us a real insight into so many aspects of the sport as well
as the racers. The very best thing is that you can be almost sure the Murray
Walker will make 10 complete howlers in a race and that MB will correct him. F1'97
has MB saying "You're right there, Murray" every minute or so - nothing could be
further from the truth. James Hunt (sadly missed) was a useful commentator as
well.
Having said that ITVs coverage of the race was very bad. They missed so much of
the action that it is hard to believe it was accidental. Remco Moedt sais on
another thread that Canal+ got all the good shots in - do you suppose that Bernie
has given them a watered down contract so that he can make still more money from
satellite.
Cheers,
Paul

> I am yet to see a good commentator for Cars or Bikes wether on Free to Air or
> Cable. The best I ever heard was Wayne Gardner but his driving commitments
> replaced his Motrocycle commentary. Event he on track commentators are not as
> good as they used to be because they rely too much on what the monitors are
> showing them. In the old days they had spotters and binoculars.



> > >I know. It's pretty ***ing sad when you notice things the paid
> > >"professional" comentators miss. What burns me up even more is when the
> > >commentators try to make something out of nothing.

> > Talking of this I noticed Ralph's right hand bargeboard go under his car and
> > flying out the back about 5 laps from the end and no-one mentioned it at
> > all.

> > Dean

schwab

(OFF TOPIC) Formula One is just a boring procession

by schwab » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Oh, so that's a British accent??? I think not John... he's as Irish as a
pint of Guiness!

:-)

-_dave




> >Nobody I guess.....The reason could be that Irvine is Irish. :-)

> No he's not....

> Cheers!
> John

--
Dave Schwabe
The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site
http://users.wi.net/~schwabe
Graeme Nas

(OFF TOPIC) Formula One is just a boring procession

by Graeme Nas » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

What's a British accent? There's no such thing!

--
Cheers!
Graeme Nash


http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk
ICQ# 11257824

1998 Xoom GP2 League Champion

schwab

(OFF TOPIC) Formula One is just a boring procession

by schwab » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Hehehe! So, I must have an *American* accent, right?:-)

--Dave


> >Oh, so that's a British accent???
> What's a British accent? There's no such thing!

> --
> Cheers!
> Graeme Nash


> http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk
> ICQ# 11257824

> 1998 Xoom GP2 League Champion

--
Dave Schwabe
The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site
http://users.wi.net/~schwabe
John Walla

(OFF TOPIC) Formula One is just a boring procession

by John Walla » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>Oh, so that's a British accent??? I think not John... he's as Irish as a
>pint of Guiness!

You do know that Guiness isn't made exclusivley in Ireland? You also
realise that people in Northern Ireland have Irish accents as
well?!?!?! <gasp!>

You will therefore not be too shocked to find out that you are also
wrong.

Next!

John


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