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Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

Schoone

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by Schoone » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 03:33:30

Those were the points I was trying to make. Sorry if I came off defending
NASCAR but in North America (I'm Canadian) NASCAR is the number one racing
series on TV and has the largest fan base.  Yes F1 is big as well but it is
not the marketing giant that NASCAR is.  Papy also has an almost exclusive
market with it's NASCAR sim and like you said F1 is currently being done by
others so little room left there.




> > Who told you NASCAR is number 1? I don't want to get into a debate as to
> > which sport or series is no.1, but from what I hear F1 is the second
most
> > popular sport in the world.
>      Probably referring to viewership and attendance in the USA.
Obviously
> F1 worldwide has a larger audience, but take a survey here in the States
and
> ask about the Names Schumacher and Hakkenin  vs Gordon and Earnhardt it
> would be no contest.  The mass market here in the STates is dominated by
> Nascar.

> Anyway, all I was trying to say was that they
> > clearly have a talented bunch of people, and they have a very solid
> physics
> > engine (arguably the best), why not exploit that?

>   I  agree...the more sims using the basic core engine, the lower the
> developmental costs for each program.

> The opposite of you, I
> > don't really care for NASCAR (I love the cars, but hate the fact that
they
> > race on ovals), so I'd like to see them use that awesome physics engine
on
> > some other series (i.e. modern F1, Rally, etc.). Clearly there is money
to
> > be made outside of NASCAR evident by the number of F1 titles, Rally
> titles,
> > etc.
>   And that alone is a good reason to avoid those...F1 has two to three
upper
> crust sims and about a dozen hack efforts(plus all the console titles)
It's
> a swamped market...Unless Papyrus could bring something unique to the F1
sim
> market there would be little chance of dominating, and hence great
financial
> risk.
> dave henrie

Biz

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by Biz » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 04:29:37

Where did you find this press release?  Please post the URL.
--
Biz

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the....." - Ash


Steephen Whit

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by Steephen Whit » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 04:33:24

"could be a pre april joke"!
Papy are a business remember , and if I could get away with adding a few
extra features to the sim and make even  money in a sport thats extremley
popular in the USA .I would.
I reckon anyone in the same position would too

Admi

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by Admi » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 05:10:22

I think this is a fake posting personally (not a slam aginst the poster, but
maybe his source)

First, it addresses the save game feature that Papy has all but admitted
they don't care to implement.

Second it says you can race 43 friends on the internet, sorry you can only
race 42 friends if you plan to participate. Even Papy would get this
correct.

Racing all 23 tracks and having Coca Cola would no longer be NEW! as it says
since we have those now.

No way to know about the 2003 teams and sponsors, especially since only
selected ones make it in to the game (Mr Hendrick...)

AND the magically strength adjusting AI sounds like it is right off the Papy
forum dedicated to AI and Save Game whiners...

Just my opinion, but I bet this is about as real as the paper it was written
on.


Ian

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by Ian » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 07:43:17


>I think this is a fake posting personally (not a slam aginst the poster, but
>maybe his source)

I agree with you, its sounds pretty fake to me.  Probably somebody
getting an early start on April Fool's Day (check the calendar).
Whoever wrote this couldn't even be bothered to get the spelling of
Tony Stewart correct.  Say what you will about Papyrus, at least they
are usually a lot less illiterate than their customers!
CW Webste

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by CW Webste » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 07:59:39

It came from a servey

Admi

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by Admi » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:17:04

The mods over at the Sierra NR2002 forum have admitted that this is a fake
given the inaccuracies in the text, most of the text coming off PR for
NR2002, and the fact we never here about Feb releases until December of the
year prior.



> >I think this is a fake posting personally (not a slam aginst the poster,
but
> >maybe his source)

> I agree with you, its sounds pretty fake to me.  Probably somebody
> getting an early start on April Fool's Day (check the calendar).
> Whoever wrote this couldn't even be bothered to get the spelling of
> Tony Stewart correct.  Say what you will about Papyrus, at least they
> are usually a lot less illiterate than their customers!

> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >> NASCAR Racing 2003 Season

> >> Strap yourself into the driver's seat of a 750-horsepower NASCAR stock
car
> >> and battle Dale Earnhardt Jr., Jeff Gordon and Tony Stuart on all 23
> >> Winston Cup tracks.  <snip>

William Bradsha

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by William Bradsha » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:25:18


I certainly agree with you. I, for one, would like to experience what it's
like to be a NASCAR driver. Including what you stated above. I'd also like
to see something with a first person view, so you can walk around the track,
souvinier (sp?) trailers, garages, even up to the announcers box or stands.
Another great thing to have would be when you win a race, you get to drive
onto Victory Lane. That's the one thing I want most. :-)

Perhaps a 3D***pit to support VR helmets and head tracking technology. It
would give the best experience possible, IMO.

OTOH, I can understand it's only a driving simulator, but Papy needs some
heart and turn it into a NASCAR simulator with the sights and sounds.
Wouldn't it be cool to walk up to your car and get in, sit through the
National Anthem? So many things they can add to make the ultimate product.

I'm sure what everyone would like to see is a Career mode, too. $20 says we
won't see any of those things for a number of years to come. hehe

-Will

jason moy

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by jason moy » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:45:08

<snip>

Where did you find this?

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Anyway, even if that's true, it could be worse.  They could make a
modern F1 game.  *shudder*

Jason

Gerald Moo

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by Gerald Moo » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:52:45

Trolling?

> Sigh... c'mon Sierra enough is enough.  Threat us like shite, we'll just do
> the same in return.  It's *not* the way to please the public.  There is
> NOTHING new in the press release below.  There is NOTHING that couldn't
> already be in NR2002 or patched in.  It's pure milking.

> Oh and Papyrus, please change your name to "Papyrus Stockcar Racing Games".
> You are nothing more, it's a shame to the whole simracing community to have
> you forced to only do that.  Your logo is not worth what you people have
> done for half a decade now.

> ---------------------------------------------------------
> NASCAR Racing 2003 Season

> Strap yourself into the driver's seat of a 750-horsepower NASCAR stock car
> and battle Dale Earnhardt Jr., Jeff Gordon and Tony Stuart on all 23
> Winston Cup tracks. Choose your paint scheme or get under the hood with
> your pit crew and tune your car to win. Let NASCAR legend Darrel Waltrip
> give you the inside scoop on each track or just jump in and race your
> favorite drivers. Now even rookies can drive like the pros using the
> all-new Driving Assist feature. Immerse yourself in a dynamic race
> environment where you'll see a blur of flashes through the dirt buildup on
> your windshield as spectators snap photos from the grandstands. Hear the
> engines thunder and the tires squeal as you drop the hammer in the
> backstretch at 191mph and pull ahead for the win. Then create your race
> winning highlight reel with the easy-to-use Replay Editor feature and savor
> your win. The 2003 season has begun.

>       NEW! Save Game will allow you to take a breather during those
> grueling 500-mile marathons.
>       NEW! 2003 Teams and Sponsors.
>       NEW! Race all 23 Tracks, including the Coca Cola Super-Speedway
> Fantasy Track, at speeds of more than 220 mph
>       NEW! Dynamic environments bring the tracks to life. Dirt will build
> up on your windshield. Debris will kick up as you fly by. Crowds will come
> to life when you go three a*** in turn four.
>       NEW! Automatic Artificial Intelligence will set the competitors
> strength to match your skills.
>       Track Tours Narrated by three-time NASCAR Champion Darrel Waltrip.
>       Racing Lessons allow you to master the art of NASCAR
>       Race up to 43 of your friends online.
>       Incredible 3D Physics deliver one of the most realistic NASCAR
> racing experiences
> ----------------------------------------------------

jason moy

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by jason moy » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 16:48:25


> I certainly agree with you. I, for one, would like to experience what it's
> like to be a NASCAR driver. Including what you stated above. I'd also like
> to see something with a first person view, so you can walk around the track,
> souvinier (sp?) trailers, garages, even up to the announcers box or stands.

It would be even cooler if you had a crosshair and a railgun and could
walk around the stands killing invading space aliens and republicans.
Also, I hope that support for the new Blowmaster force-feedback
*** peripheral is finally working properly.  I'm tired of having
to recalibrate it everytime I switch between Nascar 2k2 and F1 2001,
which seems to set the standard for sucking.

There should also be full military-grade gyroscope support so we can
experience the same G Forces.  Also, the ability to marry the trophy
girls and then have them take half of our winnings 5 years down the
line.  Talk about a career mode.

Yeah!  It would be rad if we got to sit through the pre-race
alternacountry bands too, and then after the race there would be a 3-d
rendered image of the winning driver in victory lane and some PR guy
standing there switching his hats.

A career mode would rule!  Especially if you could quit a few races
into the season to drive an indycar!

Jason

William Bradsha

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by William Bradsha » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:15:05



<SNIP HILARIOUS STUFF>

LOL. Nice replies. :)

-Will

Admi

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by Admi » Sun, 31 Mar 2002 00:44:47


> On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:37:49 -0500, "ymenard"

> >       NEW! Save Game will allow you to take a breather during those
> >grueling 500-mile marathons.

> I will buy NR2003 just for this feature alone. But it will be the last
> version I buy for a long time.

Sorry dude, this is a hoax. You'll have to wait on the real Papy to announce
whatever it is they are planning next.
Dave Henri

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by Dave Henri » Sun, 31 Mar 2002 02:29:49

  My first inclination was it wasn't a proper press release...but then I
noted the original poster, who 'usually' is up on these things so I let it
slide.  The thing to note I guess, is that Papyrus does not announce a
product officially until it's almost done.  At least in the past this has
been the case.  They have so many licensing issues that I don't believe it
benefits them to pre-announce a product until they have the bulk of the
licensing completed.
  So just based on the time frame...warning lights should have gone off.  I
suspect, IF we see a Nascar 2003 press release it will be sometime this fall
or very late in the summer.
  But I will admit...I fell for the fake announcement.  :)
  (still looking forward to bug splats tho...)
dave henrie
Goy Larse

Just bought NR2002? NR2003 is right out the corner!

by Goy Larse » Sun, 31 Mar 2002 07:20:30




> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:37:49 -0500, "ymenard"

> > >       NEW! Save Game will allow you to take a breather during those
> > >grueling 500-mile marathons.

> > I will buy NR2003 just for this feature alone. But it will be the last
> > version I buy for a long time.

> Sorry dude, this is a hoax. You'll have to wait on the real Papy to announce
> whatever it is they are planning next.

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