rec.autos.simulators

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

Haqsa

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Haqsa » Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:51:10

Okay I think I got it.  I was confused by the different file types, but
apparently some of those are only parity files?  Anyway, is the end result
one file of ~128 meg size?  If so WinRAR worked and I just didn't realize
it.  Thanks again for the help.


Michael Horto

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Michael Horto » Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:35:37

Rar has been around as long or longer than Zip.


decoders/decompressors

> to use files from the internet.  Don't get me wrong, I am grateful to Ped
> Xing for uploading the files, I just wish people would stop inventing new
> formats for no particular reason... <grumble> <grumble>



> > Serves me right for not reading the message I'm responding to properly,
> > missed the yEnc part.....sorry

> > Beers and cheers
> > (uncle) Goy

> > http://www.theuspits.com

> > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> > --Groucho Marx--

Haqsa

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Haqsa » Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:30:44

Okay, but do we really need both?  Does Rar have capabilities that Zip does
not?  Again these are honest questions, I am not trying to get into
anybody's shorts or anything.  Well, not here anyway...


Haqsa

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Haqsa » Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:33:39

Actually now that I have gone and downloaded yEnc32 I'm not sure what all
the fuss is about.  It's free and there doesn't appear to be any adware.
Granted it is another duplicate format and I don't know why we need it, but
other than that why do you think it is bad?  Just curious.


Dave Henri

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Dave Henri » Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:11:10



    I beleive RAR has superior compression routines.  So the reason some
folks USE rar is because the final product is smaller than the same file
compressed with Zip.  While their function is similar, the higher
compression can be a cost saving factor for those web hosts who have to pay
for file storage etc.
dave henrie

Magnus Svensso

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Magnus Svensso » Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:06:13



Well I don't know about needing...

,but if one would make a case that .rar is redundant b/c of .zip, .zip
would be redundant b/c of .lzh, .gz, .arc, .lha and all the formats
predating it by many years. ...ace on the other hand... ;-)

The reason I don't like rar is that it isn't backwards-compatible.
They keep changing the algorith between versions. A WinRAR3.0 file
can't be opened by WinRAR2.5 for instance. pkzip has been the same for
at least 12 years AFAIK. The main advantage it has is that it's
capable of splitting the archive file easily into several files(.r00,
.r01,... et.c.). With zip it gets trickier, I don't know if it's even
possible in WinZip without archiving to floppy.

ikste

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by ikste » Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:56:40


Check out tucows for "Newsbin".  It's a dedicated
binary tool for usenet.  multithreaded too (up to 6
threads) and pretty fast.  Can run at the same time
as your regular newsreader as well.  You can point
it at a newsgroup, give it a file mask and it will download
every matching file.

Even better, give it a list of 2000 newsgroups and
go to bed.  Be prepared to delete a lot of ***the
next morning but there are always a few useful files.

iksteh

ymenar

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by ymenar » Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:00:39


> Actually now that I have gone and downloaded yEnc32 I'm not sure what all
> the fuss is about.  It's free and there doesn't appear to be any adware.
> Granted it is another duplicate format and I don't know why we need it,
but
> other than that why do you think it is bad?  Just curious.

It still keeps everything wrong with uuencoding.  It creates massive
confusion for the users, for the small benefits of it.  It's spreading like
a plague.  It doesn't rely on MIME content tagging.  Anway I don't care
anymore about binary files on the Usenet.  I just think it's current status
is completely shameful.


> > I won't argue much, except to say that yEncing files is just bad and
> > scam-like.

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Ped Xin

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Ped Xin » Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:07:30



Yes, you are probably right.  It was just my frustration coming to boil,
I suppose.  I have done quite a bit of binary posting in other groups in
the past and never once have I heard a complaint or criticism when doing
so.  I have always tried to adhere to the popular, accepted methods of
posting.

What exactly is the problem you are having?

Providing detailed, step by step instructions on how to download and
process binaries from usenet is a bit beyond the scope of what I was
trying to do.

No, I don't assume everyone knows exactly what to do, so when people have
mentioned having problems I have tried to point them in the right
direction.

I wish I could!  But serving bandwidth on the Internet is not free and
not cheap.  If someone has a site that could host a 125mb file I would
gladly FTP it to them (or ICQ or whatever).

Ped Xin

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Ped Xin » Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:09:53



Yeah, the PAR, .P01 and .P02 are parity files.  The movie should be 125mb.  
Does it play OK for you?

Malc

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Malc » Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:34:17


OE. 'nuff said really. I tried downloading powergrab & powerpost to see if
that worked any better, but I haven't figured them out yet, and I'm not
really the type to ask for advice before I've tried to figure it out for
myself, so I'm sure I'll work it out eventually, and rec.autos.simulators
really isn't the place to ask.

It occurs to me that if all the people went and found out how to do stuff
for themselves usenet would be pretty empty, and therefore devoid of the
answers to their questions. Therefore they would have to ask, and so usenet
perpetuates...

I like that.

Malc.

Haqsa

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Haqsa » Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:44:58

Yes, it plays fine.  Frankly now that I have done this once it doesn't seem
so terribly hard, it's just that having never had to piece something like
that together before, it seemed a bit more confusing that it really was.
Anyway, haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing yet, but the little
that I did see looks fantastic.  Great job, Ped.


Haqsa

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Haqsa » Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:48:10

I used OE but would not recommend it.  It had to allocate a huge page file
just to save the download and my poor machine thrashed for a good 20
minutes, despite having 384 meg of RAM and gobs of free disk space.  I'm
sure there is a better way to do it.  Some other people have mentioned
alternatives in this thread and based on my experience I would definitely
say try them rather than trying to get OE to work.


Malc

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Malc » Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:21:29


I tried the combine & decode in OE which only took a few seconds but then it
produced a huge text file full of garbage & spent 20 odd minutes searching
for URL's.

I didn't realise the extra messages were for redundancy, so I had just
picked one of each title to combine.

I'll work it out eventually ;-)

Malc.

Haqsa

Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

by Haqsa » Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:02:08

Ahh, that's probably what mine was doing too then.



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