rec.autos.simulators

> David G Fisher

> > I seen a thread on here some time ago about FPS dropping as the race
moves
> > along but didn't notice if it got resolved.

> > Last night I was running an online race and half way through a 30% race
at
> > Daytona my FPS when from 50-70 down to 20-30 for no obvious reason.
> Anyone
> > know what might cause this and how to fix it?
> > Running at 1600*1200 32BIT on a Radeon 8500.  PC is an AMP XP1600 with
> > 512DDR Ram.

> > Like I said it was fine all evening through practice and the first part
of
> > the race and then just tailed off.

> > Schooner2000
> > www.corl.ca - Canadian Online Racing League

> > from what I remember reading, the damaged cars slowing things down was
not a
> > result of having to display the extra polys on damaged cars, but having
to
> > do with the calculations of the reduced performance of damaged cars.

>      It is neither damaged cars (I play with no damage so I don't have to
keep
> getting
> wrecked by slow junkers who won't move out of the *&%%$*^% way when I
> try to lap them), nor it is related to replay memory (set that down to 0
once
> and
> the frame rate drain kept happening).  It IS related to the speed of the
track
> (it is
> horrendous at Coca Cola and Zenjoltis with no plates and low
spoilers-single
> digits after 40 laps; short-trackers might not even notice it even during
a 500
> lap
> race).  One of the reasons I  upgraded (128-512 RAM; TNT2-GF3) was to
solve
> this problem, but alas...(now I'll have to get a new processor and hope
that
> works...).

>     John DiFool

>> My FPS problems turned out to be related to Zone Alarm... :(  Turned it off
>> while racing online, and haven't had any problems since.
>> Gotta find another firewall, though.  I'll probably get a Linksys or
>> something...

>I'm running a Linksys router with Kerio behind it.  Kerio keeps those
>troublesome programs that want to phone home at bay.

> -John

> > I't's the damage. Get a full field of cars and intentionally cause a
huge
> > wreck or two at a track like Daytona and then watch as the fps drop.

> > David G Fisher

> > > I seen a thread on here some time ago about FPS dropping as the race
> moves
> > > along but didn't notice if it got resolved.

> > > Last night I was running an online race and half way through a 30%
race
> at
> > > Daytona my FPS when from 50-70 down to 20-30 for no obvious reason.
> > Anyone
> > > know what might cause this and how to fix it?
> > > Running at 1600*1200 32BIT on a Radeon 8500.  PC is an AMP XP1600 with
> > > 512DDR Ram.

> > > Like I said it was fine all evening through practice and the first
part
> of
> > > the race and then just tailed off.

> > > Schooner2000
> > > www.corl.ca - Canadian Online Racing League

> FPS steady at 35 - 40FPS then about 45 min into the race FPS dropped to 12
> for about 10 minutes, then went back up to about 18 - 20 and stayed there,
I
> didn't have any damage but 2 cars right in front of me did.  The FPS seem
to
> start dropping under a caution and then creep back up as I'm back to
racing.
> I have no clue as to why this is happening.

> I upgraded my VIA 4n1 drivers and NVidia drivers between the 1st and 2nd
> time this happened.  The second time the FPS only dropped to 20, but still
> that's a 50% drop in FPS for no apparent reason.

> Asus A7V  AMD TB 800
> 512MB SDRam
> GeForce256 GTS
> SB Audigy

> Dan

> >   If it keeps on dropping, almost sounds like a memory leak.

> > -John

> > > I't's the damage. Get a full field of cars and intentionally cause a
> huge
> > > wreck or two at a track like Daytona and then watch as the fps drop.

> > > David G Fisher

> > > > I seen a thread on here some time ago about FPS dropping as the race
> > moves
> > > > along but didn't notice if it got resolved.

> > > > Last night I was running an online race and half way through a 30%
> race
> > at
> > > > Daytona my FPS when from 50-70 down to 20-30 for no obvious reason.
> > > Anyone
> > > > know what might cause this and how to fix it?
> > > > Running at 1600*1200 32BIT on a Radeon 8500.  PC is an AMP XP1600
with
> > > > 512DDR Ram.

> > > > Like I said it was fine all evening through practice and the first
> part
> > of
> > > > the race and then just tailed off.

> > > > Schooner2000
> > > > www.corl.ca - Canadian Online Racing League

>   Kind of like, at the start of a race, your fps will be X, but once
things
> get spread out, it'll be X+, due to various things, one of them being draw
> distance, etc.

> -John

> > It's happened to me twice.

> > FPS steady at 35 - 40FPS then about 45 min into the race FPS dropped to
12
> > for about 10 minutes, then went back up to about 18 - 20 and stayed
there,
> I
> > didn't have any damage but 2 cars right in front of me did.  The FPS
seem
> to
> > start dropping under a caution and then creep back up as I'm back to
> racing.
> > I have no clue as to why this is happening.

> > I upgraded my VIA 4n1 drivers and NVidia drivers between the 1st and 2nd
> > time this happened.  The second time the FPS only dropped to 20, but
still
> > that's a 50% drop in FPS for no apparent reason.

> > Asus A7V  AMD TB 800
> > 512MB SDRam
> > GeForce256 GTS
> > SB Audigy

> > Dan

> > >   If it keeps on dropping, almost sounds like a memory leak.

> > > -John

> > > > I't's the damage. Get a full field of cars and intentionally cause a
> > huge
> > > > wreck or two at a track like Daytona and then watch as the fps drop.

> > > > David G Fisher

> > > > > I seen a thread on here some time ago about FPS dropping as the
race
> > > moves
> > > > > along but didn't notice if it got resolved.

> > > > > Last night I was running an online race and half way through a 30%
> > race
> > > at
> > > > > Daytona my FPS when from 50-70 down to 20-30 for no obvious
reason.
> > > > Anyone
> > > > > know what might cause this and how to fix it?
> > > > > Running at 1600*1200 32BIT on a Radeon 8500.  PC is an AMP XP1600
> with
> > > > > 512DDR Ram.

> > > > > Like I said it was fine all evening through practice and the first
> > part
> > > of
> > > > > the race and then just tailed off.

> > > > > Schooner2000
> > > > > www.corl.ca - Canadian Online Racing League

> I'd be riding under caution for at least a lap, probably 2 before the FPS
> would drop.

> When you have a bunch of cars in front of you on the restart and your FPS
> drops that is expected and you will quickly see them return to normal, at
> least I do.  But in these cases, sometimes I would only have 1 or two cars
> in front of me in the corner or when everyone pits and I am the only one
on
> the track besides the pace car I would still get the same thing, very low
> FPS for no apparent reason.  And the FPS don't come back to the normal
35 -
> 40 FPS ever, the highest it would go back to was 20FPS.

> Dan

> >   Well, if it's dropping under caution, back up under racing, that could
> be
> > just do to the fact that under caution, everything's bunched up, and
under
> > racing, it's not.

> >   Kind of like, at the start of a race, your fps will be X, but once
> things
> > get spread out, it'll be X+, due to various things, one of them being
draw
> > distance, etc.

> > -John

> > > It's happened to me twice.

> > > FPS steady at 35 - 40FPS then about 45 min into the race FPS dropped
to
> 12
> > > for about 10 minutes, then went back up to about 18 - 20 and stayed
> there,
> > I
> > > didn't have any damage but 2 cars right in front of me did.  The FPS
> seem
> > to
> > > start dropping under a caution and then creep back up as I'm back to
> > racing.
> > > I have no clue as to why this is happening.

> > > I upgraded my VIA 4n1 drivers and NVidia drivers between the 1st and
2nd
> > > time this happened.  The second time the FPS only dropped to 20, but
> still
> > > that's a 50% drop in FPS for no apparent reason.

> > > Asus A7V  AMD TB 800
> > > 512MB SDRam
> > > GeForce256 GTS
> > > SB Audigy

> > > Dan

> > > >   If it keeps on dropping, almost sounds like a memory leak.

> > > > -John

> > > > > I't's the damage. Get a full field of cars and intentionally cause
a
> > > huge
> > > > > wreck or two at a track like Daytona and then watch as the fps
drop.

> > > > > David G Fisher

> > > > > > I seen a thread on here some time ago about FPS dropping as the
> race
> > > > moves
> > > > > > along but didn't notice if it got resolved.

> > > > > > Last night I was running an online race and half way through a
30%
> > > race
> > > > at
> > > > > > Daytona my FPS when from 50-70 down to 20-30 for no obvious
> reason.
> > > > > Anyone
> > > > > > know what might cause this and how to fix it?
> > > > > > Running at 1600*1200 32BIT on a Radeon 8500.  PC is an AMP
XP1600
> > with
> > > > > > 512DDR Ram.

> > > > > > Like I said it was fine all evening through practice and the
first
> > > part
> > > > of
> > > > > > the race and then just tailed off.

> > > > > > Schooner2000
> > > > > > www.corl.ca - Canadian Online Racing League

>   Kind of like, at the start of a race, your fps will be X, but once things
> get spread out, it'll be X+, due to various things, one of them being draw
> distance, etc.

>   Start a race.  Immediately when you see these problems, pause the race,
> alt-tab out to your desktop, and check your resources again.

>   That may be a good place to start; you shouldn't see a HUGE difference.

> -John

> > I agree with your statement, generally that is true, but this doesn't
seem
> > to follow exactly on those lines.

> > I'd be riding under caution for at least a lap, probably 2 before the
FPS
> > would drop.

> > When you have a bunch of cars in front of you on the restart and your
FPS
> > drops that is expected and you will quickly see them return to normal,
at
> > least I do.  But in these cases, sometimes I would only have 1 or two
cars
> > in front of me in the corner or when everyone pits and I am the only one
> on
> > the track besides the pace car I would still get the same thing, very
low
> > FPS for no apparent reason.  And the FPS don't come back to the normal
> 35 -
> > 40 FPS ever, the highest it would go back to was 20FPS.

> > Dan

> > >   Well, if it's dropping under caution, back up under racing, that
could
> > be
> > > just do to the fact that under caution, everything's bunched up, and
> under
> > > racing, it's not.

> > >   Kind of like, at the start of a race, your fps will be X, but once
> > things
> > > get spread out, it'll be X+, due to various things, one of them being
> draw
> > > distance, etc.

> > > -John

> > > > It's happened to me twice.

> > > > FPS steady at 35 - 40FPS then about 45 min into the race FPS dropped
> to
> > 12
> > > > for about 10 minutes, then went back up to about 18 - 20 and stayed
> > there,
> > > I
> > > > didn't have any damage but 2 cars right in front of me did.  The FPS
> > seem
> > > to
> > > > start dropping under a caution and then creep back up as I'm back to
> > > racing.
> > > > I have no clue as to why this is happening.

> > > > I upgraded my VIA 4n1 drivers and NVidia drivers between the 1st and
> 2nd
> > > > time this happened.  The second time the FPS only dropped to 20, but
> > still
> > > > that's a 50% drop in FPS for no apparent reason.

> > > > Asus A7V  AMD TB 800
> > > > 512MB SDRam
> > > > GeForce256 GTS
> > > > SB Audigy

> > > > Dan

> > > > >   If it keeps on dropping, almost sounds like a memory leak.

> > > > > -John

> > > > > > I't's the damage. Get a full field of cars and intentionally
cause
> a
> > > > huge
> > > > > > wreck or two at a track like Daytona and then watch as the fps
> drop.

> > > > > > David G Fisher

> > > > > > > I seen a thread on here some time ago about FPS dropping as
the
> > race
> > > > > moves
> > > > > > > along but didn't notice if it got resolved.

> > > > > > > Last night I was running an online race and half way through a
> 30%
> > > > race
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > Daytona my FPS when from 50-70 down to 20-30 for no obvious
> > reason.
> > > > > > Anyone
> > > > > > > know what might cause this and how to fix it?
> > > > > > > Running at 1600*1200 32BIT on a Radeon 8500.  PC is an AMP
> XP1600
> > > with
> > > > > > > 512DDR Ram.

> > > > > > > Like I said it was fine all evening through practice and the
> first
> > > > part
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the race and then just tailed off.

> > > > > > > Schooner2000
> > > > > > > www.corl.ca - Canadian Online Racing League

> Thanks,
> Dan

> >   That is strange.  Here's something to try.  Reboot your pc.  Once at
> your
> > desktop, check your system resources.

> >   Start a race.  Immediately when you see these problems, pause the
race,
> > alt-tab out to your desktop, and check your resources again.

> >   That may be a good place to start; you shouldn't see a HUGE
difference.

> > -John

> > > I agree with your statement, generally that is true, but this doesn't
> seem
> > > to follow exactly on those lines.

> > > I'd be riding under caution for at least a lap, probably 2 before the
> FPS
> > > would drop.

> > > When you have a bunch of cars in front of you on the restart and your
> FPS
> > > drops that is expected and you will quickly see them return to normal,
> at
> > > least I do.  But in these cases, sometimes I would only have 1 or two
> cars
> > > in front of me in the corner or when everyone pits and I am the only
one
> > on
> > > the track besides the pace car I would still get the same thing, very
> low
> > > FPS for no apparent reason.  And the FPS don't come back to the normal
> > 35 -
> > > 40 FPS ever, the highest it would go back to was 20FPS.

> > > Dan

> > > >   Well, if it's dropping under caution, back up under racing, that
> could
> > > be
> > > > just do to the fact that under caution, everything's bunched up, and
> > under
> > > > racing, it's not.

> > > >   Kind of like, at the start of a race, your fps will be X, but once
> > > things
> > > > get spread out, it'll be X+, due to various things, one of them
being
> > draw
> > > > distance, etc.

> > > > -John

> > > > > It's happened to me twice.

> > > > > FPS steady at 35 - 40FPS then about 45 min into the race FPS
dropped
> > to
> > > 12
> > > > > for about 10 minutes, then went back up to about 18 - 20 and
stayed
> > > there,
> > > > I
> > > > > didn't have any damage but 2 cars right in front of me did.  The
FPS
> > > seem
> > > > to
> > > > > start dropping under a caution and then creep back up as I'm back
to
> > > > racing.
> > > > > I have no clue as to why this is happening.

> > > > > I upgraded my VIA 4n1 drivers and NVidia drivers between the 1st
and
> > 2nd
> > > > > time this happened.  The second time the FPS only dropped to 20,
but
> > > still
> > > > > that's a 50% drop in FPS for no apparent reason.

> > > > > Asus A7V  AMD TB 800
> > > > > 512MB SDRam
> > > > > GeForce256 GTS
> > > > > SB Audigy

> > > > > Dan

> > > > > >   If it keeps on dropping, almost sounds like a memory leak.

> > > > > > -John

> > > > > > > I't's the damage. Get a full field of cars and intentionally
> cause
> > a
> > > > > huge
> > > > > > > wreck or two at a track like Daytona and then watch as the fps
> > drop.

> > > > > > > David G Fisher

> > > > > > > > I seen a thread on here some time ago about FPS dropping as
> the
> > > race
> > > > > > moves
> > > > > > > > along but didn't notice if it got resolved.

> > > > > > > > Last night I was running an online race and half way through
a
> > 30%
> > > > > race
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > Daytona my FPS when from 50-70 down to 20-30 for no obvious
> > > reason.
> > > > > > > Anyone
> > > > > > > > know what might cause this and how to fix it?
> > > > > > > > Running at 1600*1200 32BIT on a Radeon 8500.  PC is an AMP
> > XP1600
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > 512DDR Ram.

> > > > > > > > Like I said it was fine all evening through practice and the
> > first
> > > > > part
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the race and then just tailed off.

> > > > > > > > Schooner2000
> > > > > > > > www.corl.ca - Canadian Online Racing League