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RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

Jan Verschuere

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by Jan Verschuere » Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:05:11

I don't quite follow this logic. This race won't be any easier than any
other superspeedway race. Generally speaking I think people could do with
practising a little patience in these events.

When I first read this it sounded slow as it's only marginally faster than a
reasonable GPL time. I expected the trans-ams to be significantly quicker.

After having briefly tried it I can confirm: after 8 laps I'm down to
1m15.051s with the <expert> setup. I therefore think the really quick road
course guys like Ginger, Neil, Dave, Uwe and Jurjen will be in the low
1m14's and might even crack the 13's.

I created a new car and imported my painscheme from the .tga files. That
worked.

I doubt it... one can (in roadcourse/GPL terms) take enourmous liberties
with the car and still stay on the black stuff.

Jan.
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Jan Verschuere

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by Jan Verschuere » Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:43:03

I think Neil is closer to the mark in saying most guys this side of the pond
haven't tried PWF's Kyalami yet, although I'm sure it also has to do with
what I prefer to call confidence.
Seeing as most will have extensive experience at this Kyalami layout using
GPL, it's more a matter of familiarizing oneself with the car and the setup,
rather than learning the quick way around the track. A much shorter process,
which can be performed much closer to the race.

I do rate myself as a roadcourse and GT driver. Heck, I'm even***y enough
to rate myself as a stockcar/oval driver. I think I do alright for myself
despite a lack of raw speed. IMO it's essential for a racecar driver (real
or virtual) to have the inner belief/arrogance to think he can outdrive
anyone else on raceday.

I think the same or similar applies to most drivers in RASCAR. Whether this
shows up in our demeanor is a matter of debate. In my experience, RASCARians
are, by far, not the worst offenders in this category. There is the odd
"tongue in cheek" comment and the odd friendly rib (usually among guys who
race together in other leagues), but on the whole I think most egos are kept
firmly in check.

If you disagree and you think a particular person has an ego problem,
there's only one sure fire way to deflate it... on track. <vbg>

The car grips a ton and then more or less lets go. It's hard to overdo it,
but when you do, you do burn off a lot of speed, which will show up on the
clock. It's going to be very important to approach the limit "from the good
side" in these races, IMO.

Sorry to hear that. You got one thing going for you... they might think
twice about firing someone at Christmas.

Bring it on! ;-)

Jan.
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jon

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by jon » Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:36:17

so im guessing there will be little scattered groups of guys going many laps
down here.

jon

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by jon » Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:46:44

"Jan Verschueren"  wrote

Now I've ran about 10 laps total at Kyalami in Gpl. Not what you would call
extensive. Maybe I need to dig around and see what kind of kyalami stuff
there is for it. Maybe help the learning curve a little here.

Jan Verschuere

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by Jan Verschuere » Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:03:40

Sure, if you can find some replays and then take something like an Alison
Hine Ferrari v2 setup, you will get quite close to the way the trans-am
feels, there's just less grip.

Jan.
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David G Fishe

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by David G Fishe » Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:01:04

I tried it out tonight and my best was a 114.6. This is a new track to me
since I never ran it in GPL, so I'm sure the time can be brought down into
the 113's, and someone might even do a 112 without any aero help from
another driver.

David G Fisher


Tony Rickar

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by Tony Rickar » Sat, 27 Dec 2003 20:53:30


> After having briefly tried it I can confirm: after 8 laps I'm down to
> 1m15.051s with the <expert> setup. I therefore think the really quick road
> course guys like Ginger, Neil, Dave, Uwe and Jurjen will be in the low
> 1m14's and might even crack the 13's.

Without wishing to worry you, Jan (and more so, Larry) in the MARA T/A
practice races (with modified setups of course) I sneaked into the 13s
whilst Shane dropped into the 12s !!

Cheers
Tony

Jan Verschuere

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by Jan Verschuere » Sat, 27 Dec 2003 21:16:48

I was being slightly conservative on the assumption the qualifying format
would adhere to the stock car rules, i.e. one or two flying laps on cold
tyres and a full tank of fuel.

Besides, I'm not worried about your or Shane's speed... it's your
consistency and racecraft that make you formidable<sp?> opponents.

Jan.
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David G Fishe

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by David G Fishe » Sat, 27 Dec 2003 22:41:02

Did another 15 laps and brought it down to 113.710. No doubt now there will
be 112's.

David G Fisher



> I tried it out tonight and my best was a 114.6. This is a new track to me
> since I never ran it in GPL, so I'm sure the time can be brought down into
> the 113's, and someone might even do a 112 without any aero help from
> another driver.

> David G Fisher



> > Well, not seeing much of a need to practice the Talladega Truck Race,
I've
> > skipped ahead to the Jan 3 Kyalami PWF race.

> > A couple of things:

> > 1.  After about 20 min of practice, I'm turning 18.5's.  How far off the
> > Alien pace am I?
> > 2.  Any way to change the car file for this series ?  I dumped my GNS
car
> in
> > the PTA folder where it should go, but it does not appear.

> > Will we have 20+ copies of the "Terminator" body style running around
the
> > track ?

> > -Larry

Brian Oste

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by Brian Oste » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 02:33:28

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:51:29 -0500, "bluestringer"


>Did a best lap of 1.18.250, but it was bad ugly. Most of mine are in the
>high 18's low 19's. Goodbye to my top 10 points standings. :-(

>bluestringer

I'll be sinking right there with you.  My only strategy is to stay in
the back and hope someone goes off course... thats the only way I'll
be passing anybody.

Brian Oster

Brian Oste

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by Brian Oste » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 02:35:20

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:05:11 GMT, "Jan Verschueren"


>"Larry" wrote...
>> Well, not seeing much of a need to practice the
>> Talladega Truck Race, I've skipped ahead to the
>> Jan 3 Kyalami PWF race.

>I don't quite follow this logic. This race won't be any easier than any
>other superspeedway race. Generally speaking I think people could do with
>practising a little patience in these events.

Actually people probably should put in a few laps at Tally.  The truck
can push up on corner exit pretty severly with this setup.

Brian Oster

Mitch_

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by Mitch_ » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 03:07:46

Hey, dont be broadcasting my strategy bub ;)

I'm down into the 16's without much practice but speeds in the TA series
won't be nearly as important as consistency will be.

Mitch

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> I'll be sinking right there with you.  My only strategy is to stay in
> the back and hope someone goes off course... thats the only way I'll
> be passing anybody.

> Brian Oster

Larr

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by Larr » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:32:52

I'm in the mid-16's now, with a best-lap so far of 16.4 :)

-Larry




> > Well, not seeing much of a need to practice the Talladega Truck Race,
I've
> > skipped ahead to the Jan 3 Kyalami PWF race.

> > A couple of things:

> > 1.  After about 20 min of practice, I'm turning 18.5's.  How far off the
> > Alien pace am I?
> > 2.  Any way to change the car file for this series ?  I dumped my GNS
car
> in
> > the PTA folder where it should go, but it does not appear.

> > Will we have 20+ copies of the "Terminator" body style running around
the
> > track ?

> > -Larry

> Did a best lap of 1.18.250, but it was bad ugly. Most of mine are in the
> high 18's low 19's. Goodbye to my top 10 points standings. :-(

> bluestringer

Larr

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by Larr » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:34:30

The practice race and the 30 min before the main is all I need :)

I have NO need to drive a brick around Talledaga for 100 laps getting ready
for a race.  The few hundred-thousand laps I have there have me _pretty_
well prepaired :)

-Larry


Tony Rickar

RASCAR: Jan 3 Kyalami PWF

by Tony Rickar » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:54:00

prepaired? - is that as in prepared for repair?

...only kidding <G>


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