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GPL 1.1 slowdown ...

Don Burnett

GPL 1.1 slowdown ...

by Don Burnett » Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I agree, I am not a big fan of the open wheelers either, but I love the
complexity and learning curve in driving GPL. My first love is Nascar, and I
spend a lot of time league racing on Ten, which I love. I wish I had more
time for GPL, I'm sure I could really get into it.

--
Don Burnette
Dburn on Ten
http://www.racesimcentral.net/%204.htm



Jan Verschuere

GPL 1.1 slowdown ...

by Jan Verschuere » Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:00:00

No, whatever gave you that idea??? Although I lovingly refer to this ng as
rec.autos.moaners this is my private little joke and not indicative of the
majority of post here in any way. This is truly a great ng.

I am however, a firm believer is getting your own business straight before
blaming someone else.  My hobby is simracing, I spend a  lot of time doing
it, so I want to make sure I enjoy it and have as little problems as
possible. Every component in my PC is selected on a performance/compatibily
basis. I keep my system in good shape (virusscans/defrags/backups) and make
sure I keep up with regard to drivers and software updates. I have a very
fast network card + high quality hub and cabling installed and carefully
selected my cable internet provider for fast connections to just about
anywhere. Along comes a patch for GPL. I install it and it works well (no
real surprise there, everything works well on this PC... ), some bugs have
been corrected, great force feedback support has been added, and online play
has improved (for me). Is it then any wonder I'd rather blame problems on
configuration rather than on the patch itself? I will abstain on the timing
issue. I haven't checked that yet, not planning to either. If another fix
appears, I'll just install it and get on with things.

I might have overreacted, but I just think it's very unfair to go and rant
at someone who, out of his own love for the game, created this patch for us.
There's bound to be issues with any software update produced without
corporate sized QA, but I'm sure they could have been pointed out a little
nicer. I mean.... biting the hand that feeds you????

Jan.
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>Well you got me there. I generally don't read posts with BS
>subject titles like that so I was spared :-)
><snip>

Ron Ayto

GPL 1.1 slowdown ...

by Ron Ayto » Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Hi Jan,
I also have a very good computer system, i built it myself, just like i
have always buit and repaired my own systems,  ever since i become
involved in the PC compatable business, back when the 8086 XT was the
state of the art, and probably was playing with and repairing cars when
you was still in nappys. :)
I understand Modem, duns, on-line protocol and tuning of internet
connections etc., but i also have suffered from bad problems ever since
the 1.1 patch was released, that is making on-line racing with GPL an
almost fruitless effort.
Did you ever stop to think that you location may have a bit to do with
your apparant joy at the patch. ?
I live in Australia, and the higher latencys we have to endure down
here, when connecting to the rest of the world, typically in the 450 to
550 range, are not being very well handled by the 1.1 build.
I am sure Papy will sort this out in time, but please don't think, just
because you are not having problems, that the problems are hardware
related, because in the case of us DownUnder, that is not true.
Cheers,
Ron



performance/compatibily

> basis. I keep my system in good shape (virusscans/defrags/backups)
and make
> sure I keep up with regard to drivers and software updates. I have a
very
> fast network card + high quality hub and cabling installed and
carefully
> selected my cable internet provider for fast connections to just
about
> anywhere. Along comes a patch for GPL. I install it and it works well
(no
> real surprise there, everything works well on this PC... ), some bugs
have
> been corrected, great force feedback support has been added, and
online play
> has improved (for me). Is it then any wonder I'd rather blame
problems on
> configuration rather than on the patch itself? I will abstain on the
timing
> issue. I haven't checked that yet, not planning to either. If another
fix
> appears, I'll just install it and get on with things.

> I might have overreacted, but I just think it's very unfair to go and
rant
> at someone who, out of his own love for the game, created this patch
for us.
> There's bound to be issues with any software update produced without
> corporate sized QA, but I'm sure they could have been pointed out a
little
> nicer. I mean.... biting the hand that feeds you????

> Jan.
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Jan Verschuere

GPL 1.1 slowdown ...

by Jan Verschuere » Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Like I said before; the patch seems to favour good connections and I regret
that. On the other hand, someone with a poor connection joining doesn't mess
up my game as bad in V1.1 as it did in V1.0.

There is a glimmer of hope though. We tried racing on a dedicated server
last night, which HALVED our ping times from their usual values. With just a
few racers connected we had LAN quality play, No position warp at all, we
went wheel to wheel with confidence <g>. Trying a bigger field tonight.

I do realise the patch has problems, after all, it should run on all
reasonably competent systems/connections (yours is ok, I raced 800ms pings
with V1.0). I just whish these issues had been brought to the fore in a more
tactfull manner.

Jan.
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>Hi Jan,
>I also have a very good computer system, i built it myself, <snip>

J

GPL 1.1 slowdown ...

by J » Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Does this mean that the "patched" mouspointer doesn't flicker fast
enough?
Oooohhh, I just started loving this.

;-)

Jens

On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:26:58 +0100, "Robin Lord"


>Cheers, we love the patch - just wish we didn't feel like we were driving
>through treacle : )
>One more thing I noticed on my machine is that the mouse pointer on the
>fastest lap screen moves v.slow in jerks and the rippling flag is even
>slower than in the other menus. I don't know if this is related?

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Jo

GPL 1.1 slowdown ...

by Jo » Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:00:00


>Like I said before; the patch seems to favour good connections and I regret
>that.

I have a very good connection. Fast cable modem, fast in both
directions, I join VROC 2 races where I have pings of 55 - 100. The
warping is so bad it is completely unplayable (GPL 1.0 was near
flawless). Even just sitting at the starting line cars will disappear
(then re-appear 15 seconds later 200 feet away, already started
racing).

I have tried every CORE.INI setting under the sun, to no avail.

Joe McGinn
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http://www.racesimcentral.net/***.com/
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Jo

GPL 1.1 slowdown ...

by Jo » Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:00:00


>Have you run an MTU patch in the past??? I did once and it messed up V1.0,
>but only on fast servers. I reverted and no problems since.... touch wood.

Sorry, what's MTU? I haven't installed any 3rd-party mods if that's
what you mean.

Joe McGinn
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Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network
http://www.racesimcentral.net/***.com/
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Jan Verschuere

GPL 1.1 slowdown ...

by Jan Verschuere » Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I am aware there are problems, I just haven't experienced them myself yet.
If I knew why it works for me and it doesn't for others this group would be
the first to know. Don't think it has much to do with the core.ini as I've
used all of them to the same, but opposite effect.

Have you run an MTU patch in the past??? I did once and it messed up V1.0,
but only on fast servers. I reverted and no problems since.... touch wood.
;-)

Jan.
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><snip>
>I have a very good connection. Fast cable modem, fast in both
>directions, I join VROC 2 races where I have pings of 55 - 100. The
>warping is so bad it is completely unplayable (GPL 1.0 was near
>flawless). Even just sitting at the starting line cars will disappear
>(then re-appear 15 seconds later 200 feet away, already started
>racing).

>I have tried every CORE.INI setting under the sun, to no avail.

>Joe McGinn
>==========================================
>Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/***.com/
>==========================================

J

GPL 1.1 slowdown ...

by J » Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Addon:

Like the most Aussies, I can s***my PC, if anybody starts playing
Latency-police.

I never had a lat less than 400, but mostely smooth racing up to 600.
As announced several times before, there are other factors influencing
the online quality more than the lat.

Jens from Malaysia

On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:03:57 +0200, "Jan Verschueren"


>Like I said before; the patch seems to favour good connections and I regret
>that. On the other hand, someone with a poor connection joining doesn't mess
>up my game as bad in V1.1 as it did in V1.0.

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Harry Row

GPL 1.1 slowdown ...

by Harry Row » Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:00:00



> >Have you run an MTU patch in the past??? I did once and it messed up
V1.0,
> >but only on fast servers. I reverted and no problems since.... touch
wood.

> Sorry, what's MTU? I haven't installed any 3rd-party mods if that's
> what you mean.

Maximum Transfer Unit

See:

http://members.tripod.com/~EasyMTU/easymtu/index.html

Regards,

Harry

Jo

GPL 1.1 slowdown ...

by Jo » Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:00:00


>Maximum Transfer Unit

>See:

>http://www.racesimcentral.net/~EasyMTU/easymtu/index.html

Ah, thanks. To answer the original question that brought it up, no I
don't have MTU.

Joe McGinn
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http://www.racesimcentral.net/***.com/
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