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Rally Championship 2000

Magnus Svensso

Rally Championship 2000

by Magnus Svensso » Fri, 03 Mar 2000 04:00:00


>If you go to the rally championship2000 website, they have a patch that
>addresses some of the physics issues.

>Some of the items are (off the top of my head),
>- Sticky/Less sticky grass
>- Heavier cars (the cars seem very light in RC2000)

Still too sticky, still too light(or rather, strange).

If you do that you won't be able to steer enough in corners.

I don't know about that, exactly. It's still like driving a cardboard
box. There is just *no* inertia! Actually that seems to have slipped
by the physics programmer completely...

*The car flips over way too easily.

*The car stops on 20 metres from 160km/h....on gravel!!

*There's no sliding whatsoever.(ok, a little... too little...)

*The steering is *way* off mark. Realisticly, if you go down a gravel
road 80km/h and steer quite a bit, the car won't move instantly off
the road.

Actually, that's pretty realistic. However, as the car handles like it
does it's pretty much impossible to drive on-road.

Tell me about it... ;)

/Magnus

Marc Spruij

Rally Championship 2000

by Marc Spruij » Tue, 07 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Yep, same here. CMR more fun and slipping and sliding. RC2000 harder to keep
on the narrow roads but nicer on the Force Feedback Wheel, steep on the 3D
card requirements.
Marc



> > > >>I have the uk version orange box and is great. CMR the cars seem to
float on
> > > >>the track.

> > You think it is better than Colin McRae Rally?

> I've got both and I've been wondering this for a while.

> RC2000 is (probably?) the more realistic simulator. For example the stages
> are geniune rally stages and can take ages to complete. The car seems
> particularly difficult to handle at times - I'm almost convinced its
treating
> my steering wheel as a digital device - I assume it simply has a more
> realistic model that highlights my "ham fisted" approach. You can
certaintly
> chuck the car about a bit more in CMR (even the front wheel drive ones).

> I cannot help feeling that CMR is a bit more fun though,
> and the quality of the interface on CMR is much better. For example,
setting
> up a steering wheel in RC 2000 is a bit hit and miss, and the game does
> have long "loading" screens every time you touch a button.

> (Having just given up on "hidden and dangerous" due to the sheer number
> of bugs, I realise just what high quality products CMR and RC 2000 are).

> --
> Steven Dawkins - Research Assistant - University of York.

Marc Spruij

Rally Championship 2000

by Marc Spruij » Tue, 07 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Car-Model in CMR feels better. I recognice the innertia item below (get off
the accell, steer, hit the accel and you made a 90 degree turn).
Marc



> >If you go to the rally championship2000 website, they have a patch that
> >addresses some of the physics issues.

> >Some of the items are (off the top of my head),
> >- Sticky/Less sticky grass
> >- Heavier cars (the cars seem very light in RC2000)

> Still too sticky, still too light(or rather, strange).

> >The steering sensitivity has to be turned way down, otherwise, your car
goes
> >all over the place.

> If you do that you won't be able to steer enough in corners.

> >I prefer colin mcrae, as it is more fun.
> >RC2000 seems more realistic?

> I don't know about that, exactly. It's still like driving a cardboard
> box. There is just *no* inertia! Actually that seems to have slipped
> by the physics programmer completely...

> *The car flips over way too easily.

> *The car stops on 20 metres from 160km/h....on gravel!!

> *There's no sliding whatsoever.(ok, a little... too little...)

> *The steering is *way* off mark. Realisticly, if you go down a gravel
> road 80km/h and steer quite a bit, the car won't move instantly off
> the road.

> >Some of the RC2000 tracks are way too long and too narrow...

> Actually, that's pretty realistic. However, as the car handles like it
> does it's pretty much impossible to drive on-road.

> >There's colin mcrae 2.0, coming out in apr/may as well.

> Tell me about it... ;)

> /Magnus

Pshort5

Rally Championship 2000

by Pshort5 » Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Hello, I may have missed part of the thread...Where is the 2000 website?

Thanks,
Paul

Jake

Rally Championship 2000

by Jake » Sun, 12 Mar 2000 04:00:00

You need to change the game's parameters via a ral.cfg file. See
http://forums.simracingnews.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi


> Yep, same here. CMR more fun and slipping and sliding. RC2000 harder
to keep
> on the narrow roads but nicer on the Force Feedback Wheel, steep on
the 3D
> card requirements.
> Marc




> > > > >>I have the uk version orange box and is great. CMR the cars
seem to
> float on
> > > > >>the track.

> > > You think it is better than Colin McRae Rally?

> > I've got both and I've been wondering this for a while.

> > RC2000 is (probably?) the more realistic simulator. For example
the stages
> > are geniune rally stages and can take ages to complete. The car
seems
> > particularly difficult to handle at times - I'm almost convinced
its
> treating
> > my steering wheel as a digital device - I assume it simply has a
more
> > realistic model that highlights my "ham fisted" approach. You can
> certaintly
> > chuck the car about a bit more in CMR (even the front wheel drive
ones).

> > I cannot help feeling that CMR is a bit more fun though,
> > and the quality of the interface on CMR is much better. For
example,
> setting
> > up a steering wheel in RC 2000 is a bit hit and miss, and the game
does
> > have long "loading" screens every time you touch a button.

> > (Having just given up on "hidden and dangerous" due to the sheer
number
> > of bugs, I realise just what high quality products CMR and RC 2000
are).

> > --
> > Steven Dawkins - Research Assistant - University of York.


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