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NFS2!!!

Hawke

NFS2!!!

by Hawke » Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Wow!  What a fantastic game!  It blew away my expectations, even after
playing the demo.  I had Sabre Ace, but with all it's flaws and the fact
that Eagle Interactive said they weren't going to make a patch to fix
things like the viewing system, I returned it today for NFS2.  I'm very
glad I did!  If you like racing games, this one is just pure eyecandy!  It
screams!

Hawker

Doug Schneide

NFS2!!!

by Doug Schneide » Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:00:00


> Wow!  What a fantastic game!  It blew away my expectations, even after
> playing the demo.  I had Sabre Ace, but with all it's flaws and the fact
> that Eagle Interactive said they weren't going to make a patch to fix
> things like the viewing system, I returned it today for NFS2.  I'm very
> glad I did!  If you like racing games, this one is just pure eyecandy!  It
> screams!

> Hawker

I couldn't have said it better myself.  The SE (Special Edition) version
which has Glide support is awesome.  Played against my buddy for about 6
hours on the day he bought it, and the frame rate is not to be
believed.  It's pure entertainment with a killer adrenaline rush.  Most
fun I've had to date.

                                        Doug

Hawke

NFS2!!!

by Hawke » Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:00:00

How much do I like this game?  Well, now that I just realized I've been
playing it for the past 10 hours straight (6:00pm - 4:00am), I'd say it's
pretty darn fun!

It's well worth every penny (34.95 at CompUSA).

Hawker

Jo

NFS2!!!

by Jo » Wed, 19 Nov 1997 04:00:00


> If you like racing games, this one is just pure eyecandy!  

Unfortunately you are exactly right, NFS2SE is "just pure eyecandy".
Silly me, I was hoping for *gameplay* (you know, like NFS1 had), so
NFS2 lasted about two days until I got hopelessly bored with it.

Joe

Doug Schneide

NFS2!!!

by Doug Schneide » Thu, 20 Nov 1997 04:00:00

snip

Just curious, Joe, but what do you mean by "gameplay"?  I've never
played NFS1 and would like to know what the difference is.  Thanks.

                                        Doug

Jo

NFS2!!!

by Jo » Thu, 20 Nov 1997 04:00:00


>Just curious, Joe, but what do you mean by "gameplay"?  I've never
>played NFS1 and would like to know what the difference is.  Thanks.

NFS1 had two main features that gave it great gameplay - 1) open,
non-cicuit tracks (e.g., a 10-mile city track, a long Coastal track,
and another long track through the mountains - the tracks were
actually so long they were broken into three seperate stages). The
tracks were very realistic and fun to drive, with varying levels of
difficulty (but again done realistically, not the stupid blind-sharp
corners NFS2 relies on for "difficulty"). The other feature was cops
you would occasionally run into during races. The combination of cops,
open roads, and traffic on them made for an incredibly ***ive,
replayable game - that's what I mean by *gameplay*. I had some replays
of long car chases saved that looked more like a scene out of a movie
than a video game (kind of like those cop chase videos FOX shows
sometimes - except you were IN it, not watching it).

The accidents were also incredible, much more realistic and
spectacular. I remember this one chase that went on and on through the
Coastal track, and I was almost to the checkpoint (i.e., which would
mean I got away from the cops). I was weaving in and out of traffic,
and then I crested this one last "blind" hill on the wrong side of the
road - and ran head-on into a truck I couldn't see coming. I can still
remember the accident - cars flying through the air, flipping over and
over. It FELT like a head-on accident, as opposed to the stupid "100
ton tank effect" accidents in NFS2.

There is just NOTHING even remotely resembling this kind of great
gameplay in NFS2 (nor in any other modern racing game for that
matter). Frankly if you compare the two NFS2 just plain SUCKS as a
computer game, whearas NFS1 can only be described as a masterpiece.
It's too bad it was apparently a fluke, since the drones at EA don't
seem to have the slightest idea what it was that made NFS1 so great.

Joe

Doug Bur

NFS2!!!

by Doug Bur » Thu, 20 Nov 1997 04:00:00


> snip
> > Unfortunately you are exactly right, NFS2SE is "just pure eyecandy".
> > Silly me, I was hoping for *gameplay* (you know, like NFS1 had), so
> > NFS2 lasted about two days until I got hopelessly bored with it.

> > Joe

> Just curious, Joe, but what do you mean by "gameplay"?  I've never
> played NFS1 and would like to know what the difference is.  Thanks.

>                                         Doug

If you like NFS2 you will go nuts over NFS1 -- the cars were more
controllable, it was more of a SIM than an arcade game in the way the
cards handled and what happened ..  It was VERY immersive to say the
least.

One measure is this:

THere are over 100 new tracks for NFS1 on the net ...

I haven't found any for NFS2 (and yes, there is an editor for NFS2 as
well) ...

Guess more people got e***d about NFS 1 ...

If you see it on the bargain bin, but it .. .the cd audio rocks as
well.  full redbook cd.

Hawke

NFS2!!!

by Hawke » Thu, 20 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I should clarify something, I mean NFS2 SE!!!  the 3DFX version.  I also
loved NFS1, but the way this one looks and the liquid smooth frame rates
can't be beat!

Hawker

John Cookso

NFS2!!!

by John Cookso » Fri, 21 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I agree with Hawker completely.

I was a big fan of NFS which except for poor controller support
was a great game. The controller support was fixed in NFS SE
and this is now a classic.

NFS2 for Win95 was a joke, requiring a P200MMX to get even a half
decent framerate. This was very much inferior to NFS1.

Then came NFS2 SE with 3dfx support. This changed everything.
Incredible smooth graphics, great frame rate, full controller
support, excellent handling model (Better than NFS1), great
opponent AI. This arcade racer has it all, quite simply the
best ever !!

John Cookson

Robin Sequir

NFS2!!!

by Robin Sequir » Fri, 21 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I've had NFS2SE for a while now, and it kicks ass. I don't care about cops,
I've seen them in Test Drive, and they don't really do anything. How can
they catch you in the cars you drive?

--
<<Phoenix>>

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Jo

NFS2!!!

by Jo » Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:00:00


>Have you actually tried NFS2SE?  NFS2SE is quite different from NFS2.

I own it. How is it "quite different"? One new track, a few new cars -
that's the only difference I can find (aside from the 3dfx graphics
and frame-rate, obviously).

Joe

Jo

NFS2!!!

by Jo » Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:00:00


>The eye candy is a bonus !

The eye candy is the whole damn game - there's just nothing else
there.

Joe

John Cookso

NFS2!!!

by John Cookso » Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:00:00

There is not a chance on this Joe !
You and I will never agree on this one.

NFS2-SE with 3dfx is truly wonderful

The handling, AI etc is in a different league and this game is so
smooth, I cannot believe it is for Win95. (Most Win95 games are
not smooth at all.)

I loved NFS1 but have to admit this is better.
The eye candy is a bonus !

Ronald Stoe

NFS2!!!

by Ronald Stoe » Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:00:00


> There is not a chance on this Joe !
> You and I will never agree on this one.

> NFS2-SE with 3dfx is truly wonderful

> The handling, AI etc is in a different league and this game is so
> smooth, I cannot believe it is for Win95. (Most Win95 games are
> not smooth at all.)

> I loved NFS1 but have to admit this is better.
> The eye candy is a bonus !

Skip the***pit view - skip my money...
I loved the graphics (in the demo) but removing the***pit view!
...maybe Don B. was right about the***pit problem on Voodoo? 8^) 8^)

l8er
ronny

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       '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)            screaming their heads off!

Redr

NFS2!!!

by Redr » Sun, 23 Nov 1997 04:00:00



>>The eye candy is a bonus !

>The eye candy is the whole damn game - there's just nothing else
>there.

>Joe

If you set the mode to "simulation", the car handling is almost
equivalent to NFS1 if not better.  The things missing from NFS2SE are
open tracks and cops...but the graphics makes up for the loss.

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