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Backspac

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by Backspac » Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:23:05


> 2. Yes, they are options and for the most part, welcome. But I think
> what Larry was getting at was those options should accessible from
> <within> the game, not only via a text editor.

That's nit-picking. There are far too many options in the .ini to list
within the game itself. Most people don't even need to touch the .ini
file so it is a moot point anyway.
Backspac

Arca SimRacing 2008 arrived today.

by Backspac » Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:24:48


> Correct!

So you want to see 100 options that most people don't use just to please
you? Get a grip on reality. Name one game that gives access all the .ini
options within the game.
Backspac

Arca SimRacing 2008 arrived today.

by Backspac » Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:26:17


> You missed my point.

> The options aren't the issue.  The issue is that after all these years
> there's still no in-game interface to get to them.

There are far too many to put in the game options screen and all the
ones most people need are in the game options screen.
Alan Bernard

Arca SimRacing 2008 arrived today.

by Alan Bernard » Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:01:54


>I think about 3 weeks ago.

> -Larry





>>> It's shipped.  Mine was in the mail box today.  Installing now...

>>> The packaging is quite bare.  Just a DVD in a snap-case.

>>> -Larry

>> Larry,

>> If I may ask, when did you order the game?  I ordered mine last
>> Wednesday, hoping it arrives soon.

>> Alan

My copy arrived today: ordered it last Wednesday.

Alan

Larr

Arca SimRacing 2008 arrived today.

by Larr » Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:46:40

It's getting better.  I do think the wheel lock was part of the slide issue.

I'm not getting much FF right now.  If I increase the FF, all I get is a
stiffer wheel.  It rumbles, but that's about it.

I need to figure out how to turn off the shaking***pit before I puke LOL

Did some online last night.  Other than getting DQ'd a couple of times while
trying to find my way to the damned track from the garage, it was ok.  As
usual open servers were kinda messy, but that's typical.

I still think the sound rocks :)

-Larry



That hasn't been my experience.  I've caught some big slides in ARCA.
Sometimes I've been really surprised at how far out of shape the car
has been and I still saved it.  ARCA is probably better to me than any
other sim in that regard.

Now that I think about it, I've had real life drivers get into my
simulator with the ARCA sim and catch some big slides without much
seat time.  Probably has a lot to do with my steering configuration
and chassis setups.

One thing - make sure you have enough steering lock available to be
able to point the wheels in the direction of the slide.  If you are
using the low steering locks that seem to come with the default
setups, like 9 degrees at a SS, or 12 at shorter tracks, you won't be
able to steer enough to save it.  I seem to need 15 degrees or more to
feel comfortable, and part of that comfort is the ability to correct
oversteer.

Also, non-linear steering makes catching a slide almost impossible.
Remove any non-linearity from the steering by setting the steering
axis to 50% (full linear) or as close as you can stand.  Same thing
goes for speed sensitive steering - set it to zero.

Keep at it for a few days and I'll be surprised if ARCA doesn't grow
on you :)

Pat Dotson
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Larr

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by Larr » Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:47:10

I call Bullshit.  That's why programmers created TABS

-Larry



>> You missed my point.

>> The options aren't the issue.  The issue is that after all these years
>> there's still no in-game interface to get to them.

> There are far too many to put in the game options screen and all the ones
> most people need are in the game options screen.

Larr

Arca SimRacing 2008 arrived today.

by Larr » Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:47:52

Yep.  That's why they created TABBED interfaces.  Better than digging
through a text file trying to find it.

Hell, make it a separate app if you wish.

-Larry



>> Correct!

> So you want to see 100 options that most people don't use just to please
> you? Get a grip on reality. Name one game that gives access all the .ini
> options within the game.

Larr

Arca SimRacing 2008 arrived today.

by Larr » Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:48:30

Again, I call Bullshit.

-Larry



>> 2. Yes, they are options and for the most part, welcome. But I think
>> what Larry was getting at was those options should accessible from
>> <within> the game, not only via a text editor.

> That's nit-picking. There are far too many options in the .ini to list
> within the game itself. Most people don't even need to touch the .ini file
> so it is a moot point anyway.

Backspac

Arca SimRacing 2008 arrived today.

by Backspac » Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:04:27


> Again, I call Bullshit.

> -Larry

I'll call your bullshit and raise you another nit-picker with nothing
better to do.
Backspac

Arca SimRacing 2008 arrived today.

by Backspac » Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:06:30


> I call Bullshit.  That's why programmers created TABS

> -Larry

Show me one game with a tabbed interface.
Larr

Arca SimRacing 2008 arrived today.

by Larr » Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:22:28

Arca Sim Racing :)

-Larry



>> I call Bullshit.  That's why programmers created TABS

>> -Larry

> Show me one game with a tabbed interface.

Larr

Arca SimRacing 2008 arrived today.

by Larr » Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:23:10

All in.

-Larry



>> Again, I call Bullshit.

>> -Larry

> I'll call your bullshit and raise you another nit-picker with nothing
> better to do.

spa..

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by spa.. » Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:23:30

 Larry,

       I suggest you buy a Playstation and Grand Turismo 4.  ASR is
much too complicated for you.

Uwe Sch??rkam

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by Uwe Sch??rkam » Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:42:39


> Good start?  Yes.  NR2003 Killer? Hmmm.....

> I'm still digging in to it and have a long way to go.  However, I'm seeing
> some ISI-based traints that, game after game, simply don't seem to friggen'
> go away:

> 1.  Controller setup.  It's still too finicky.  You have to fiddle and
> fiddle and fiddle and fiddle until you stumble upon something that works for
> you.  DEVELOPERS - NO ONE RACES SIMS WITH KEYBOARDS.  GET RID OF THE STUPID
> DIGITAL SETUP SHIT ALREADY!  I don't know why any developer has put effort
> into re-designing the canned ISI based controller setup system.  It's beyond
> my comprehension how something so badly designed can go on, and on and on
> and on, game after game after gane.  Paleeeease!

Just wondering, what controller are you using?

cheers, uwe

Uwe Sch??rkam

Arca SimRacing 2008 arrived today.

by Uwe Sch??rkam » Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:44:52


> 1. With my TSW, there is always some time required to "find the sweet
> spot" for inputs. Hopefully, the settings that I am using for rF will

I dumped the last remnant of my $350+ TSW setup (the usb-converted
pedals) and got myself a g25, and haven't looked back since. It's a
breeze to set up in game in any sim I've come across so far.

All the best, uwe

PS: I paid 350 USD when they were actually still worth something ;-)


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