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Dean
I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how
long it's been since I've forgotten anything.
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> > F.O.R.D.= *** Off RAS Dorks
>F.O.R.D.=For old racing drivers
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"I'd sell my soul for a Formula 1 racing car." - Bart Simpson
>>> Any chance of convincing Ford not to sell all the historical cars it
>>> owns to private collectors and to set up a museum instead?
>> They could call it the... uh, Henry Ford Museum.
> Source: Autocar, 8th May 2002:
> Ford takes it's past to market (Peter Robinson)
> Sorry Ford, but no-one is going to take your forthcoming centenary
> celebrations seriously.
> Not if you go ahead with the June 16th auction of 51 prototypes and
> concept cars. Mostly from Ghia's collection, but also including many
> recent Dearborn concepts, the list includes hugel influential designs
> like the Ghia Focus, various Probes, Lagonda Vignale and Ian Callum's
> Ghia Via AC. Ford presents the sale as a positive move, as if the
> only alternative to selling the cars - the proceeds go to charity -
> is the scrapheap and not a Ford museum. At least here we could enjoy
> the work of some of the worlds best cars in perpetuity.
> /end
> He goes on a bit more, but the upshot is that they're going to sell
> these cars to collectors, who'll coat them in wax and hide them in a
> private collection, never to be seen again.
> " la limite, tant mieux, cela vite aux gens de penser la guerre,
> la famine ou la maladie." - Jean Todt, referring to Ferrari's
> decision to implement team orders in Austria '02
The 1960 Ghia Selene II concept car; take a look:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/servlet/ImageFinder?image=22043
No wonder Ford is unloading it. I would imagine that Ford has hundreds of
far more important automobiles.
> >>> Any chance of convincing Ford not to sell all the historical cars it
> >>> owns to private collectors and to set up a museum instead?
> >> They could call it the... uh, Henry Ford Museum.
> > Source: Autocar, 8th May 2002:
> > Ford takes it's past to market (Peter Robinson)
> > Sorry Ford, but no-one is going to take your forthcoming centenary
> > celebrations seriously.
> > Not if you go ahead with the June 16th auction of 51 prototypes and
> > concept cars. Mostly from Ghia's collection, but also including many
> > recent Dearborn concepts, the list includes hugel influential designs
> > like the Ghia Focus, various Probes, Lagonda Vignale and Ian Callum's
> > Ghia Via AC. Ford presents the sale as a positive move, as if the
> > only alternative to selling the cars - the proceeds go to charity -
> > is the scrapheap and not a Ford museum. At least here we could enjoy
> > the work of some of the worlds best cars in perpetuity.
> > /end
> > He goes on a bit more, but the upshot is that they're going to sell
> > these cars to collectors, who'll coat them in wax and hide them in a
> > private collection, never to be seen again.
> > " la limite, tant mieux, cela vite aux gens de penser la guerre,
> > la famine ou la maladie." - Jean Todt, referring to Ferrari's
> > decision to implement team orders in Austria '02
> Does anyone really care about a 1992 Mustang Mach III concept roadster,
even
> if it is worth an estimated $200K?
> The 1960 Ghia Selene II concept car; take a look:
> http://www.autotrader.co.uk/servlet/ImageFinder?image=22043
> No wonder Ford is unloading it. I would imagine that Ford has hundreds of
> far more important automobiles.
I wouldn't knock it unless you'd seen it.
TC
> > F.O.R.D.= *** Off RAS Dorks
> F.O.R.D.= Fix Or Repair Daily !
> F.O.R.D.= Found On the Road Dead
After all, Ford don't make man racing engines ( for example) the Holy D F V
was a Brit' box paid for with lots of very welcome Yanky greenbacks.
I've always found the stuff Ford pay to have developed in/for Europe to be
it's best work. I mean, have you seen many MkII escorts in the US.
The GT40....was it a US creation though?, quite a machine.
And lay off on them for reliability, they are about 2nd to Citreon in the
"runs til it actually falls to bits" stakes, the only thing I have against
their cars is the way they chisel the chassis from a single giant block of
lead:0
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Wasn't the GT 40 a storebought Lola that they threw a few extra tweeks
onto?? At least the first Marks....
It's the old American theory...you can't get hurt in a wreck if you
wreck the other car more... :)
dave henrie
It's two years old now, looks like it did the day it came off the showroom
floor, and with the exception of a recall for the brake light switch hasn't
presented even the most minute problem in 18,000 miles.
It's also a fairly big car, and has an enviable safety record. I'm 6'4" 310
lbs, and there aren't many cars I fit in right. Most of the one's I do cost
over $35000, which I can't afford. The Taurus was the best available at the
time.
With all that said, the one truly disappointing factor is depreciation. The
Taurus is a victim of it's own success. In combination with it's sales
success, it is also the most rented car in the country, especially from
Hertz. This means that post-rentals and trade-in's have flooded the used
car market.
In short, the resale value absolutely, positively sucks.
The only good part about this is the end-of-lease residual is nothing, and
I'll probably buy it out in 11 months and drive it for another 5 years.
I _think_ my next car is going to be an Acura 3.2TL Type S. You seem to get
a lot for your money, and the residual/resale rates are very, very high.
My research has shown that there _may_ be a problem with headroom, though :(
-Larry
> >:) And lay off on them for reliability, they are about 2nd to Citreon in
the
> >:) "runs til it actually falls to bits" stakes, the only thing I have
against
> >:) their cars is the way they chisel the chassis from a single giant
block of
> >:) lead:0
> Bullshit! I've owned two of them clunkers and the first, bought brand
> new, had it's first bit fall off when it was a mere three days old. A
> thing they never did manage to fix in the seven years I owned that
> piece of junk.
> Then, later, I bought an Aerostar. They actually predicted it's ***
> failure in the Ford ng. That thing cost me a fortune in repairs. It
> started with a power steering pump failure. They fall to bits as soon
> as you start one of them. Of course if you keep putting the bits back
> on you can make it limp along for a long time.
> On the other hand I drove a Toyota Corolla for seven years and didn't
> do anything to it. Not so much as a tune-up even. Same for a Supra
> almost. I had it for eight trouble free years and the fuel pump failed
> as the dealer was driving it to his lot after a trade-in.
> I drove a Toyota Landcruiser for twenty (yes twenty) years and only
> replaced a brake master cylinder and resoldered the top tank on the
> radiator and i used that sucker for such things as yarding firewood
> and had a blade for the front that got used extensively. That sucker
> worked hard it's early life.
> I now have a Toyota Previa that's on it's third trouble free
> year.......
> Hell I don't think a Ford would last twenty years, let alone twenty
> trouble free ones. Fords ARE crap.
> Me? Buy a Ford? NEVER AGAIN!
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> "I was hoping you'd say no" - Rubens Barrichello.
> "Suze, he's about ready to hop into the Goulash pot..." - Fredrik B.
Knutsen.
> "You know that if you're offering I always want it. ;-)" - Rachael Nex.
> "Keke, Ronnie, Nigel, Gilles....heroes all." - Doc
> "Schumacher was steering INTO Motoya when he hit him!" - Suzieflame.
Nahhhhhh!
Anyhow: Ford talking about honouring their heritage makes me laugh.
JensSchumi
>Ford takes it's past to market (Peter Robinson)
>Sorry Ford, but no-one is going to take your forthcoming centenary
>celebrations seriously.
>Not if you go ahead with the June 16th auction of 51 prototypes and concept
>cars. Mostly from Ghia's collection, but also including many recent
>Dearborn concepts, the list includes hugel influential designs like the
>Ghia Focus, various Probes, Lagonda Vignale and Ian Callum's Ghia Via AC.
>Ford presents the sale as a positive move, as if the only alternative to
>selling the cars - the proceeds go to charity - is the scrapheap and not a
>Ford museum. At least here we could enjoy the work of some of the worlds
>best cars in perpetuity.
>/end
>He goes on a bit more, but the upshot is that they're going to sell these
>cars to collectors, who'll coat them in wax and hide them in a private
>collection, never to be seen again.
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-Larry
> Anyhow: Ford talking about honouring their heritage makes me laugh.
> JensSchumi
> >Source: Autocar, 8th May 2002:
> >Ford takes it's past to market (Peter Robinson)
> >Sorry Ford, but no-one is going to take your forthcoming centenary
> >celebrations seriously.
> >Not if you go ahead with the June 16th auction of 51 prototypes and
concept
> >cars. Mostly from Ghia's collection, but also including many recent
> >Dearborn concepts, the list includes hugel influential designs like the
> >Ghia Focus, various Probes, Lagonda Vignale and Ian Callum's Ghia Via AC.
> >Ford presents the sale as a positive move, as if the only alternative to
> >selling the cars - the proceeds go to charity - is the scrapheap and not
a
> >Ford museum. At least here we could enjoy the work of some of the worlds
> >best cars in perpetuity.
> >/end
> >He goes on a bit more, but the upshot is that they're going to sell these
> >cars to collectors, who'll coat them in wax and hide them in a private
> >collection, never to be seen again.
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Pontiac will be selling Goats again next year...Actually imported Holden
Monaro. So if a 4 door Vette engined car gets your goat...a GTO is for you.
dave henrie
I also used to be a Grand Prix fanatic. Look what they did to that :(
And, I just must say, what the HELL is it with Pontiac and these bug-eye
headlights and tail lights over the last decade ?
-Larry
> > Pontiac can build me a new 1967 GTO in Marine-Aqua Metallic any time
they
> > feel up to it :)
> > -Larry
> Pontiac will be selling Goats again next year...Actually imported
Holden
> Monaro. So if a 4 door Vette engined car gets your goat...a GTO is for
you.
> dave henrie
> I also used to be a Grand Prix fanatic. Look what they did to that :(
> And, I just must say, what the HELL is it with Pontiac and these bug-eye
> headlights and tail lights over the last decade ?
> -Larry
> > > Pontiac can build me a new 1967 GTO in Marine-Aqua Metallic any time
> they
> > > feel up to it :)
> > > -Larry
> > Pontiac will be selling Goats again next year...Actually imported
> Holden
> > Monaro. So if a 4 door Vette engined car gets your goat...a GTO is for
> you.
> > dave henrie
