with their road cars. Throwing it sideways, driving nice lines, you get the
drill.
For me real driving is the ultimate and something that can't be beaten by
any sim, not even GPL.
For me real driving is the ultimate and something that can't be beaten by
any sim, not even GPL.
Cheers
Phil
--
http://www.youpies.co.uk
Cue the "Stop Driving Like An Idiot On The Road Before You Kill
Someone!" thread... <g>
Tim
Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....
Well, I now always drive with the pedal to the metal...
I've to, with my 29Bhp car, otherwise I got hit in the rear
by that pesky Yugo... <g>
Remco
>For me real driving is the ultimate and something that can't be beaten by
>any sim, not even GPL.
I tried a real car last christmas. Didn't like it. there was something wrong
with the FF....
Jon
>> I was wondering after the GPL and realism thread how many of us play
>around
>> with their road cars. Throwing it sideways, driving nice lines, you get
>the
>> drill.
>I tried a real car last christmas. Didn't like it. there was something wrong
>with the FF....
Remco
PS. Line stolen from Vail Riches....
Eventually it died and in my "new" car (Nissan Almera) which has power
steering, servo assisted brakes and pre-emptive fuel injection (whatever
that is) I lack the directness I felt in the Golf and therefore the
confidence to really use its potential. On the other hand it's faster and
handles better, so there's no real need to push the envelope to get a move
on.
Jan.
=---
I finally learned what it meant to be smooth when I bought a '72 Mercedes
manual *** 240D. When you got speed up on that thing you didn't want to
give it up for anything!
Big heavy sedan, skinny hard tires, no power, but on the other hand a superb
chassis and suspension. You could actually powerslide the thing in the snow,
and with absolute confidence and precision no matter how bad the road
conditions.
Since then I've owned and Alfa, a CRX and even a Maserati, but I still miss
that old Merc.
> For me real driving is the ultimate and something that can't be beaten by
> any sim, not even GPL.
I was glad to survive the trip ;)
--
Matthew V. Jessick Motorsims
Vehicle Dynamics Engineer (972)910-8866, Fax: (972)910-8216
Motorsport Ranch
http://www.motorsportranch.com/
"A Sportscar Country Club"
One of the good things about living in the Dallas area... ;)
> I was wondering after the GPL and realism thread how many of us play around
> with their road cars. Throwing it sideways, driving nice lines, you get the
> drill.
> For me real driving is the ultimate and something that can't be beaten by
> any sim, not even GPL.
What I find interesting is that I have far more confidence in the car
right after playing GPL and my inputs are more in touch with what the
car is doing in that case. I only spun there once, and it wasn't after
GPL. I enetered the slide, let go off the accelerator in 2nd and didn't
see a snap oversteer develop, which would have otherwise been easily
corrected by adding some power.
But the best time I had was of course in the snow. Thank god for front
wheel drive! You enter a corner, perhaps understeer a bit, pull the
handbrake gently and you are sliding. Once you are sideways enough start
playing with the accelerator and there you have a looooong drift.
Or I take a warm summer night and drive to the top of a local hill
(about 800m height difference). Braking into hairpins, blipping the
throttle on downshifts (I do use the clutch, I love my car too much!),
then applying power and have permanent tyre sqeal through the hairpin.
I just started drooling by writing this. I'll get the carkeys now!
-Gregor
> > I was wondering after the GPL and realism thread how many of us play
around
> > with their road cars. Throwing it sideways, driving nice lines, you get
the
> > drill.
> > For me real driving is the ultimate and something that can't be beaten
by
> > any sim, not even GPL.
> I have a (t)rusty 5 year old Renault Clio with 75 bhp. Which is just the
> amount of power I can feel confident with. I have a very specific right
> hand corner that can be taken at about 60 km/h and is actually an entry
> to an unfinished highway, so there are two empty lanes that create my
> run-off area.
> What I find interesting is that I have far more confidence in the car
> right after playing GPL and my inputs are more in touch with what the
> car is doing in that case. I only spun there once, and it wasn't after
> GPL. I enetered the slide, let go off the accelerator in 2nd and didn't
> see a snap oversteer develop, which would have otherwise been easily
> corrected by adding some power.
> But the best time I had was of course in the snow. Thank god for front
> wheel drive! You enter a corner, perhaps understeer a bit, pull the
> handbrake gently and you are sliding. Once you are sideways enough start
> playing with the accelerator and there you have a looooong drift.
> Or I take a warm summer night and drive to the top of a local hill
> (about 800m height difference). Braking into hairpins, blipping the
> throttle on downshifts (I do use the clutch, I love my car too much!),
> then applying power and have permanent tyre sqeal through the hairpin.
> I just started drooling by writing this. I'll get the carkeys now!
> -Gregor
Stephen
>For me real driving is the ultimate and something that can't be beaten by
>any sim, not even GPL.
Eldred
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Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you
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Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
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Cheers,
Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer.
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Nrburgring and Grand Prix Legends
|
| > Actually, I went the other way. I drive a six-year-old Saturn sedan
| > in real life (couldn't throw it sideways with a catapult) and have
| > found great enjoyment pushing around Trabants, Fiat 500s and 2CVs in
| > BreakNeck. Nothing like putting a CH pedal to the, uh, plastic and
| > having the simulated vehicle leap to a top speed of, say, 53 mph! Or
| > hitting even a modest grade and watching the gears drop from 4th to
| > 1st. Most kidding aside, racing woefully underpowered cars rewards
| > precision and, for all its other shortcomings, the Saturn, while
| > hardly speedy, does respond to precise commands.
| >
| I finally learned what it meant to be smooth when I bought a '72 Mercedes
| manual *** 240D. When you got speed up on that thing you didn't want to
| give it up for anything!
|
| Big heavy sedan, skinny hard tires, no power, but on the other hand a
superb
| chassis and suspension. You could actually powerslide the thing in the
snow,
| and with absolute confidence and precision no matter how bad the road
| conditions.
|
| Since then I've owned and Alfa, a CRX and even a Maserati, but I still
miss
| that old Merc.
|
|
MS
> --
> Cheers,
> Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer.
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Nrburgring and Grand Prix Legends
> |
> | > Actually, I went the other way. I drive a six-year-old Saturn sedan
> | > in real life (couldn't throw it sideways with a catapult) and have
> | > found great enjoyment pushing around Trabants, Fiat 500s and 2CVs in
> | > BreakNeck. Nothing like putting a CH pedal to the, uh, plastic and
> | > having the simulated vehicle leap to a top speed of, say, 53 mph! Or
> | > hitting even a modest grade and watching the gears drop from 4th to
> | > 1st. Most kidding aside, racing woefully underpowered cars rewards
> | > precision and, for all its other shortcomings, the Saturn, while
> | > hardly speedy, does respond to precise commands.
> | >
> | I finally learned what it meant to be smooth when I bought a '72
Mercedes
> | manual *** 240D. When you got speed up on that thing you didn't want
to
> | give it up for anything!
> |
> | Big heavy sedan, skinny hard tires, no power, but on the other hand a
> superb
> | chassis and suspension. You could actually powerslide the thing in the
> snow,
> | and with absolute confidence and precision no matter how bad the road
> | conditions.
> |
> | Since then I've owned and Alfa, a CRX and even a Maserati, but I still
> miss
> | that old Merc.
> |
> |