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Nascar Revolution - In praise of (quite long)

Chris Wrigh

Nascar Revolution - In praise of (quite long)

by Chris Wrigh » Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:00:00

This game has taken quite a battering on this newsgroup and for good reason.
However,
the advent of the beta patch has undoubtedly brought about some very
worthwhile, and indeed necessary improvements, most notably in the area of
game speed, which when using the bumper view is as awesome as any game I've
played, including TOCA2.

I would even go so far as to say that it is tons better than Nascar 1999 in
the following areas:-

- Vastly superior game presentation
- The game speed is altogether more convincing
- The cars bounce all over the place at appropriate points on the tracks,
e.g. turn three at Talladega
- The cars themselves look incredible
- The game can run superbly using Direct 3D, therefore opening it up to a
wider audience
- The tracks are very wide and narrow as in real life, unlike the Papyrus
game which arguably has
   unrealistically-narrow circuits
- You can actually turn your car over, but the really neat thing is that the
car physics are quite accurate and it is
   some time before this happens to you. I believe Nascar 3 will be offering
this important feature.
- Your car is driven by the computer during yellow cautions, giving you a
welcome breather in a long race
  (Okay I know a "real" sim wouldn't do this, but who can deny that driving
in caution periods in N99 is harder
   than at full racing pelt?)
- The shading and lighting effects add superb atmosphere

In saying the above I acknowledge that the game is not without its faults,
as we all know. The new patch has failed to adequately address the following
major bozos:-

- Unacceptable scenery pop-up on some circuits
- Opponent AI is still far too aggressive
- No save game facility except during pit-stops

The main disappointment with this game is that, in common with almost every
PC title these days,  it was released too damn early. A lot of people have
been told the game is mediocre and formed a negative opinion and rightly so
because it didn't play half as well before the patch was introduced.

If this game proves to be a flop, EA has only itself to blame for being too
trigger happy with the release button.

For myself, I doubt that I will be so full of praise for Papyrus games in
the future. Ot at least until Nascar 3 arrives.

ymenar

Nascar Revolution - In praise of (quite long)

by ymenar » Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:00:00


It's personnal preference. I like the slick and classy Papyrus presentation.
You don't always need flashy menus...  Too much is not enough many times.

There is still slowdowns with the patch.

Hmm but it's canned.. it's just there without any effect on the handling of
the car.  Yoda once said..

Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try...

Sorry but they look very cartoony.  Tyres that go outside the bodies..  The
cars look anything but real-life Stock-cars.  Look at the NR99 body at
simracing.com or N3...

Nr99 runs superbly in software mode.  Still, D3D doesn't fix the lamentable
physics even with the patch...

The tracks are false. Look at the unrealistic road course.  Or Michigan...
The track accuracy is 0 compared to 99% for Papyrus.  And ovals are narrow..
not wide as you think.

No they are not accurate. The car as about no weight when it's launched into
the air. It will tilt without a problem, without any realistic physics. Look
at GPL or N3 to see realistic 3d physics.

It's one of the worse feature in NRevolution.

Doesn't fix the poor gameplay and old game engine.

It's just a bad product.  Nothing more to say...  Of course there is some
"little" nice features, but it's like that everywhere. Psygnosis F1 arcade
games have excellent track accuracy.. but it doesn't mean it,s a great title
compared to MGPRS2 or Gp2.

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John Walla

Nascar Revolution - In praise of (quite long)

by John Walla » Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:00:00

On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:44:50 +0100, "Chris Wright"


>the advent of the beta patch has undoubtedly brought about some very
>worthwhile, and indeed necessary improvements, most notably in the area of
>game speed, which when using the bumper view is as awesome as any game I've
>played, including TOCA2.

Unfortunately not too many NASCAR drivers sit on their bumper, and
when you use the favoured in-car view NAS-Rev has substantially less
poke than Mr. Bobbit.

- Hype
- Failing to deliver
- Shiny box
- Unhappy traffic on every feedback medium known to man
- Mirth inducement

Wow, when you think about it you're right, NAS-Rev is a standard
setter in some areas.... :-)

Cheers!
John

Ronald Stoeh

Nascar Revolution - In praise of (quite long)

by Ronald Stoeh » Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:00:00



> > - Vastly superior game presentation

> It's personnal preference. I like the slick and classy Papyrus presentation.
> You don't always need flashy menus...  Too much is not enough many times.

If Papy would PLEASE enable keyboard navigation again, they would be
perfect...

l8er
ronny

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