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NV Ref Drivers - 23.10 Benchmarks

Tom Pabs

NV Ref Drivers - 23.10 Benchmarks

by Tom Pabs » Tue, 11 Dec 2001 04:24:23

Notes on 23:10 drivers:

1.  While the 23.10's did not increase the 3DM2K1 scores, it did boost FPS
in N4 as shown.

2.  There's a problem with the LOD bias on these drivers, you'll need an
appropriate "tweak" utility to fix this.  Otherwise, when ever you set the
mipmapp bias...you'll need to reboot your system before it takes effect.

3.  Also, I noticed an improvement in the GPL track graphic
quality....perhaps a 20% improvement in the color depth quality and clarity.
Also, it appears that "jaggies" are reduced.....all of this is a very
subjective observation but I have been working on several track graphic
projects lately in GPL on the "race box" below and I am keenly aware of the
graphic textures and quality at the moment on that system.  The improvement
as noted, is quite obvious and apparent to me with the 23.10's.  (Note:
This improvement only applies to the tracks I have retextured in high-res
textures, it does not apply to the other tracks I have installed, including
all of those retextured via Internet download over the last year or two).
GPL FPS remains pegged at 39 FPS as measured by FRAPPS....including the new
high-res tracks (at 1600x1200).  The D3D UI screen flash has disappeared as
well.  Though, I have not noticed this since the 22.80....that I can think
of, so this may not be unique to these 23.10's.

Regards,

Tom

*************************************************
3DMark200x Benchtest Scores vs Nvidia Ref Drivers
*************************************************

System #1 Specs
***************
        CPU: Intel PIII 800
        Mobo: Asus P3V4X, BIOS: 1.006 Beta 03
        Video: Creative GF2 ULTRA (260/480)
        RAM: 512 Mb (PC133)
        Chipset: VIA Apollo Pro 133A vers 4.29
        OpsSys: Win98SE
        DirectX: 8.1 Final


www.extremepcuk.com/guides/gfg/index.shtml
        Key BIOS Settings: AGP=2X, AGP-Aperture=64mb

        Nvidia Driver           3DMark2000                      N4

        *************           **********
*******************
        12.00 Ref                       6093                            34.9
FPS
        12.00 Cert                      6165                            35.0
FPS
        14.10 Ref                       6064                            32.7
FPS
        21.81 Cert                      6210                            65.7
FPS
        21.85 Ref                       6310                            66.4
FPS
        21.88 Ref                       6405                            65.9
FPS
   N/A - This system temporarily out of service.

System #2 Specs
***************

        Mobo: MSI K7 Master, BIOS: 1.1, FSB-133, CM-11.0
        Video: Asus GF3-V8200 Deluxe (205/470)-control by "Riva Turner 2.0
RC-8.1"
        RAM: 512 Mb (PC2100)
        Chipset: AMD AGP Miniport, vers 4.80
        OpsSys: Win98SE (IE 6.0)
        DirectX: 8.1 Final


www.extremepcuk.com/guides/gfg/index.shtml
        Key BIOS Settings: AGP=2X, AGP-Aperture=64mb

        Nvidia Driver           3DMark2001                      N4

        *************           **********
*******************
        12.00 Ref                       5427                            90
FPS
        12.00 Cert                      5610                            91
FPS
        12.40 Ref                       5413                            90
FPS
        14.40 Ref                       6102                            95
FPS
        21.81 Cert                      6732                           104
FPS
        21.85 Ref                       6835                            105
FPS
        21.88 Ref                       6847                            105
FPS
        22.50 Ref                       6927                            105
FPS
        23.10 Ref                       6905                            113
FPS


graphics options-max, "Test Session" Mode,***pit view, mirror plain, car
at static in pit box - take initial FPS reading)

Vintoo

NV Ref Drivers - 23.10 Benchmarks

by Vintoo » Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:26:26

All these drivers did for my Gforce2 MX was***up my system and put a
mouse cursor in the middle of my Counter-Strike game screen. I went back to
the 21.83 ones, have no problems with them.

Vintook


> Notes on 23:10 drivers:

> 1.  While the 23.10's did not increase the 3DM2K1 scores, it did boost FPS
> in N4 as shown.

> 2.  There's a problem with the LOD bias on these drivers, you'll need an
> appropriate "tweak" utility to fix this.  Otherwise, when ever you set the
> mipmapp bias...you'll need to reboot your system before it takes effect.

> 3.  Also, I noticed an improvement in the GPL track graphic
> quality....perhaps a 20% improvement in the color depth quality and
clarity.
> Also, it appears that "jaggies" are reduced.....all of this is a very
> subjective observation but I have been working on several track graphic
> projects lately in GPL on the "race box" below and I am keenly aware of
the
> graphic textures and quality at the moment on that system.  The
improvement
> as noted, is quite obvious and apparent to me with the 23.10's.  (Note:
> This improvement only applies to the tracks I have retextured in high-res
> textures, it does not apply to the other tracks I have installed,
including
> all of those retextured via Internet download over the last year or two).
> GPL FPS remains pegged at 39 FPS as measured by FRAPPS....including the
new
> high-res tracks (at 1600x1200).  The D3D UI screen flash has disappeared
as
> well.  Though, I have not noticed this since the 22.80....that I can think
> of, so this may not be unique to these 23.10's.

> Regards,

> Tom

> *************************************************
> 3DMark200x Benchtest Scores vs Nvidia Ref Drivers
> *************************************************

> System #1 Specs
> ***************
>         CPU: Intel PIII 800
>         Mobo: Asus P3V4X, BIOS: 1.006 Beta 03
>         Video: Creative GF2 ULTRA (260/480)
>         RAM: 512 Mb (PC133)
>         Chipset: VIA Apollo Pro 133A vers 4.29
>         OpsSys: Win98SE
>         DirectX: 8.1 Final


> www.extremepcuk.com/guides/gfg/index.shtml
>         Key BIOS Settings: AGP=2X, AGP-Aperture=64mb

>         Nvidia Driver           3DMark2000                      N4

>         *************           **********
> *******************
>         12.00 Ref                       6093
34.9
> FPS
>         12.00 Cert                      6165
35.0
> FPS
>         14.10 Ref                       6064
32.7
> FPS
>         21.81 Cert                      6210
65.7
> FPS
>         21.85 Ref                       6310
66.4
> FPS
>         21.88 Ref                       6405
65.9
> FPS
>    N/A - This system temporarily out of service.

> System #2 Specs
> ***************

>         Mobo: MSI K7 Master, BIOS: 1.1, FSB-133, CM-11.0
>         Video: Asus GF3-V8200 Deluxe (205/470)-control by "Riva Turner 2.0
> RC-8.1"
>         RAM: 512 Mb (PC2100)
>         Chipset: AMD AGP Miniport, vers 4.80
>         OpsSys: Win98SE (IE 6.0)
>         DirectX: 8.1 Final


> www.extremepcuk.com/guides/gfg/index.shtml
>         Key BIOS Settings: AGP=2X, AGP-Aperture=64mb

>         Nvidia Driver           3DMark2001                      N4

>         *************           **********
> *******************
>         12.00 Ref                       5427                            90
> FPS
>         12.00 Cert                      5610                            91
> FPS
>         12.40 Ref                       5413                            90
> FPS
>         14.40 Ref                       6102                            95
> FPS
>         21.81 Cert                      6732                           104
> FPS
>         21.85 Ref                       6835
105
> FPS
>         21.88 Ref                       6847
105
> FPS
>         22.50 Ref                       6927
105
> FPS
>         23.10 Ref                       6905
113
> FPS


> graphics options-max, "Test Session" Mode,***pit view, mirror plain, car
> at static in pit box - take initial FPS reading)

The Other Larr

NV Ref Drivers - 23.10 Benchmarks

by The Other Larr » Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:32:00

New High-Res Tracks ?  I must have missed something...

-Larry


> Notes on 23:10 drivers:

> 1.  While the 23.10's did not increase the 3DM2K1 scores, it did boost FPS
> in N4 as shown.

> 2.  There's a problem with the LOD bias on these drivers, you'll need an
> appropriate "tweak" utility to fix this.  Otherwise, when ever you set the
> mipmapp bias...you'll need to reboot your system before it takes effect.

> 3.  Also, I noticed an improvement in the GPL track graphic
> quality....perhaps a 20% improvement in the color depth quality and
clarity.
> Also, it appears that "jaggies" are reduced.....all of this is a very
> subjective observation but I have been working on several track graphic
> projects lately in GPL on the "race box" below and I am keenly aware of
the
> graphic textures and quality at the moment on that system.  The
improvement
> as noted, is quite obvious and apparent to me with the 23.10's.  (Note:
> This improvement only applies to the tracks I have retextured in high-res
> textures, it does not apply to the other tracks I have installed,
including
> all of those retextured via Internet download over the last year or two).
> GPL FPS remains pegged at 39 FPS as measured by FRAPPS....including the
new
> high-res tracks (at 1600x1200).  The D3D UI screen flash has disappeared
as
> well.  Though, I have not noticed this since the 22.80....that I can think
> of, so this may not be unique to these 23.10's.

> Regards,

> Tom

> *************************************************
> 3DMark200x Benchtest Scores vs Nvidia Ref Drivers
> *************************************************

> System #1 Specs
> ***************
>         CPU: Intel PIII 800
>         Mobo: Asus P3V4X, BIOS: 1.006 Beta 03
>         Video: Creative GF2 ULTRA (260/480)
>         RAM: 512 Mb (PC133)
>         Chipset: VIA Apollo Pro 133A vers 4.29
>         OpsSys: Win98SE
>         DirectX: 8.1 Final


> www.extremepcuk.com/guides/gfg/index.shtml
>         Key BIOS Settings: AGP=2X, AGP-Aperture=64mb

>         Nvidia Driver           3DMark2000                      N4

>         *************           **********
> *******************
>         12.00 Ref                       6093
34.9
> FPS
>         12.00 Cert                      6165
35.0
> FPS
>         14.10 Ref                       6064
32.7
> FPS
>         21.81 Cert                      6210
65.7
> FPS
>         21.85 Ref                       6310
66.4
> FPS
>         21.88 Ref                       6405
65.9
> FPS
>    N/A - This system temporarily out of service.

> System #2 Specs
> ***************

>         Mobo: MSI K7 Master, BIOS: 1.1, FSB-133, CM-11.0
>         Video: Asus GF3-V8200 Deluxe (205/470)-control by "Riva Turner 2.0
> RC-8.1"
>         RAM: 512 Mb (PC2100)
>         Chipset: AMD AGP Miniport, vers 4.80
>         OpsSys: Win98SE (IE 6.0)
>         DirectX: 8.1 Final


> www.extremepcuk.com/guides/gfg/index.shtml
>         Key BIOS Settings: AGP=2X, AGP-Aperture=64mb

>         Nvidia Driver           3DMark2001                      N4

>         *************           **********
> *******************
>         12.00 Ref                       5427                            90
> FPS
>         12.00 Cert                      5610                            91
> FPS
>         12.40 Ref                       5413                            90
> FPS
>         14.40 Ref                       6102                            95
> FPS
>         21.81 Cert                      6732                           104
> FPS
>         21.85 Ref                       6835
105
> FPS
>         21.88 Ref                       6847
105
> FPS
>         22.50 Ref                       6927
105
> FPS
>         23.10 Ref                       6905
113
> FPS


> graphics options-max, "Test Session" Mode,***pit view, mirror plain, car
> at static in pit box - take initial FPS reading)

Joachim Trens

NV Ref Drivers - 23.10 Benchmarks

by Joachim Trens » Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:58:39

Hi Tom,

I've seen the same in N4-OpenGL. These new drivers 23.10/23.11 improve the
image quality substantially.

Achim

BW

NV Ref Drivers - 23.10 Benchmarks

by BW » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:22:41

Has anyone else noticed a change in the "Z-buffer depth" settings with the
23.11 drivers?  3DMark2001 gave me a choice of 16, 24, or 32 bit with the
21.85 drivers.  Now with the 23.11 drivers I only have the choice of 16 or
24 bit.

All seems to run fine - actually saw a slight increase in the 3D Mark with
the 23.11 driver.

BTW: GeForce3 Ti-200

Bill


> Notes on 23:10 drivers:

> 1.  While the 23.10's did not increase the 3DM2K1 scores, it did boost FPS
> in N4 as shown.

> 2.  There's a problem with the LOD bias on these drivers, you'll need an
> appropriate "tweak" utility to fix this.  Otherwise, when ever you set the
> mipmapp bias...you'll need to reboot your system before it takes effect.

> 3.  Also, I noticed an improvement in the GPL track graphic
> quality....perhaps a 20% improvement in the color depth quality and
clarity.
> Also, it appears that "jaggies" are reduced.....all of this is a very
> subjective observation but I have been working on several track graphic
> projects lately in GPL on the "race box" below and I am keenly aware of
the
> graphic textures and quality at the moment on that system.  The
improvement
> as noted, is quite obvious and apparent to me with the 23.10's.  (Note:
> This improvement only applies to the tracks I have retextured in high-res
> textures, it does not apply to the other tracks I have installed,
including
> all of those retextured via Internet download over the last year or two).
> GPL FPS remains pegged at 39 FPS as measured by FRAPPS....including the
new
> high-res tracks (at 1600x1200).  The D3D UI screen flash has disappeared
as
> well.  Though, I have not noticed this since the 22.80....that I can think
> of, so this may not be unique to these 23.10's.

> Regards,

> Tom

> *************************************************
> 3DMark200x Benchtest Scores vs Nvidia Ref Drivers
> *************************************************

> System #1 Specs
> ***************
>         CPU: Intel PIII 800
>         Mobo: Asus P3V4X, BIOS: 1.006 Beta 03
>         Video: Creative GF2 ULTRA (260/480)
>         RAM: 512 Mb (PC133)
>         Chipset: VIA Apollo Pro 133A vers 4.29
>         OpsSys: Win98SE
>         DirectX: 8.1 Final


> www.extremepcuk.com/guides/gfg/index.shtml
>         Key BIOS Settings: AGP=2X, AGP-Aperture=64mb

>         Nvidia Driver           3DMark2000                      N4

>         *************           **********
> *******************
>         12.00 Ref                       6093
34.9
> FPS
>         12.00 Cert                      6165
35.0
> FPS
>         14.10 Ref                       6064
32.7
> FPS
>         21.81 Cert                      6210
65.7
> FPS
>         21.85 Ref                       6310
66.4
> FPS
>         21.88 Ref                       6405
65.9
> FPS
>    N/A - This system temporarily out of service.

> System #2 Specs
> ***************

>         Mobo: MSI K7 Master, BIOS: 1.1, FSB-133, CM-11.0
>         Video: Asus GF3-V8200 Deluxe (205/470)-control by "Riva Turner 2.0
> RC-8.1"
>         RAM: 512 Mb (PC2100)
>         Chipset: AMD AGP Miniport, vers 4.80
>         OpsSys: Win98SE (IE 6.0)
>         DirectX: 8.1 Final


> www.extremepcuk.com/guides/gfg/index.shtml
>         Key BIOS Settings: AGP=2X, AGP-Aperture=64mb

>         Nvidia Driver           3DMark2001                      N4

>         *************           **********
> *******************
>         12.00 Ref                       5427                            90
> FPS
>         12.00 Cert                      5610                            91
> FPS
>         12.40 Ref                       5413                            90
> FPS
>         14.40 Ref                       6102                            95
> FPS
>         21.81 Cert                      6732                           104
> FPS
>         21.85 Ref                       6835
105
> FPS
>         21.88 Ref                       6847
105
> FPS
>         22.50 Ref                       6927
105
> FPS
>         23.10 Ref                       6905
113
> FPS


> graphics options-max, "Test Session" Mode,***pit view, mirror plain, car
> at static in pit box - take initial FPS reading)


1. NV Ref Drivers 3DMark Scores/N4 FPS Scores

2. LFS and NV 40.52 drivers

3. WTB - SoundStream Ref 200 or Ref 160

4. FS: Soundstream Ref 10.0, Ref 644s and 500s

5. SS Ref 404 for trade for a ref 500 PA

6. NFS3 and New V2 REF Drivers

7. 1.81 ref drivers for TNT2 card

8. GPL: banshee ref. driver 1.04 doesnt work (for me)

9. New Nvidia Ref Drivers - Scores/FPS

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