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STCC2 - How Good ?

Thore Sorense

STCC2 - How Good ?

by Thore Sorense » Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:18:16

On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:02:31 +0200, "Blues DeVille"


>made me give it another shot... Then i started trying other people's
>set-up's i found on the net. Whoa, that made a difference! Turned out
>that the problems i had with steering was totally dependent on the car's
>set-up and not the wheel set-up.

Hi...i purchased the game  3-4 months ago, but I can not in any way
follow the great drivers from Sweden, Norway and Finland...:(
I used to drive with keyboard and automatic gearbox...
Now 2 weeks ago I bought a LWFF wheel, but for now I have to get used to
the wheel after 3 years with keyboard  :(....havent succedeed in better
laptimes with wheel yet, but i'm working on that...:)

I think my setup's too slow. Where did u find that setup's mentioned?
The only ones I can find is Anteras', Mikko's and Pelle P's...and with
those setup's I'm always in the gravel/grass...:(

--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards


DK-2700 Bronshoj - Denmark

redTe

STCC2 - How Good ?

by redTe » Wed, 11 Apr 2001 02:15:10

I've got a couple of set-ups(5 or 6) for the Alfa(best car in the game) that
work quite well with a wheel and pedals. I think the fastest guy's are all
using joysticks, though. Can't be certain, but their set-ups don't seem
suited at all to a wheel.
Anyway, let me know if you want these set-ups.

Jan Verschuere

STCC2 - How Good ?

by Jan Verschuere » Wed, 11 Apr 2001 06:20:10

Throw your old Alfa teammate a bone here... thanks. Spamblock should be easy
to unravel.

Jan.
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Jan Verschuere

STCC2 - How Good ?

by Jan Verschuere » Wed, 11 Apr 2001 06:52:16

Not really...

Can't say I noticed that, but as I find it fairly easy to place the car
consistently in STCC2, I rarely have to correct anything. Provided, of
course, the situation is salvagable in the first place. <g>

Don't worry about it, I can't work that site either. The physics model is
indeed basically flawed somewhere, as demonstrated aptly by the "Formula
DICE"-cars which are given as a bonus when you win the STCC. They handle
absolutely nothing like single seaters and respond rather bizarly to control
inputs at times (not to mention the impossibility of spin control). They're
not the cars I bought the game for, however.

Like I said before, it's not GPL, but it's much more believable than TOCA2,
for example and IMO.

If by this you mean the cars have a final understeering characteristic and
therefore tend to drift over the front axle and, when you pull the tyres
over the top of the slip angle curve, the steering going very light as the
car slides over the front axle (usually straight off the track). I'd say you
were right and that was exactly what I would expect the cars to do.

If you mean anything else... nope, can't say I've noticed it, I'm sorry
(LWFF here too, as you know). Again, force feedback is not up to GPL level
and lacks severely in subtlety, but it's, IMO, perfectly adequate to know
the attitude of the car and how close to the limit it is. Like I said, I
find it very easy to pick my line and place the car in the game.

Yup, control lag... present in many sims (e.g. GP3 before the patch), but
can't say I've noticed it much in STCC... maybe a little at the start of
races when there's lots o' cars in view. I've got the "damping forces" set
fairly low in my LWFF configuration (something like 30%) and I reduced the
overall strength somewhat for STCC2... maybe that makes a difference?

Jan.
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redTe

STCC2 - How Good ?

by redTe » Wed, 11 Apr 2001 07:27:29


On the way, hopefully.Post again if you don't get them. I might have made a
mistake with your e-mail.
Good luck.

Jan Verschuere

STCC2 - How Good ?

by Jan Verschuere » Wed, 11 Apr 2001 07:48:58

Got 'm... thanks!!

Jan.
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Dave Henri

STCC2 - How Good ?

by Dave Henri » Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:23:18

  Somewhere I have a post to me about a fellow in the States trying to
purchase
STCC2.  I think I gave him the original Sweedish site that was selling it...
but he wants to use the phone to avoid the risk of his credit card being
swiped.  Unfortunately the # that was on the website doesn't seem to be
working..
does anyone have a mail order house in Europe (preferably one that speaks
English)
  With a phone # that this guy can call...<<assuming I can find his email
again>>
dave henrie


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