Obviously, other factors come into play that may allow that in real life
for him, that don't in the game, but some details from the clip would help.
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
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John
> --
> Mika Takala
> > I know this one's been seen before, but does anyone know the details
of
> > Stewart's BRM here ? What year, engine, etc. ? Find it interesting
that
> > he's able to go all out on turns that that's impossible at in GPL.
> > Obviously, other factors come into play that may allow that in real
life
> > for him, that don't in the game, but some details from the clip would
> help.
> > http://www.circuit-zandvoort.nl/historie/formula1/zandvoort-1.jpg
I remember all the nosecam footage from spa and zandy being only at cruising
speed, and then maybe artificially made to run faster, and some kind of
racing soundtrack mixed. At least at spa that really shows, the driver isn't
using the track at all, and comparing to GPL, it really looks slow (as does
Zandy, if you look carefully enough).
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Mika Takala
> > Really ? His hand is moving at each shift, but even with his hand
> moving,
> > could still be a different soundtrack, see your point. Thing is though,
> > the "nose cam" view still doesn't show any deceleration at all in those
> > turns(and he's hauling, no question of that), that require it in GPL.
> > John
> I remember all the nosecam footage from spa and zandy being only at
cruising
> speed, and then maybe artificially made to run faster, and some kind of
> racing soundtrack mixed. At least at spa that really shows, the driver
isn't
> using the track at all, and comparing to GPL, it really looks slow (as
does
> Zandy, if you look carefully enough).
> --
> Mika Takala
John
Looking at the other cars (enclosed engines) and noticing this one only has
intake flutes one side of the engine I'd say that if this is an F1 car, it
certainly is pre-67. Perhaps even pre-65.
Jan.
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Check that... it has intake flutes on both sides. Hmmm...
Jan.
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Anyway, in the movie Grand Prix it's obvious that there's a slight
acceleration of the racing footage (perhaps, 5% not more) so that the speeds
the cars were going during shooting are accelerated and more closer to the
real speeds.
For the sound, Hollywood studios don't have microphones on their cameras
(they do sometimes, but rarely in "modern" cinema). All the sound you hear
in the movie was done in post-production, or was recorded by mic booms.
Just watch the Monza race at the end, it's pretty cheesy.
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> Well racing with a "fixed" view in GPL also gives the impression that the
> car isn't decelerating, since there's no movement of the camera vs. the
> chassis.
> Anyway, in the movie Grand Prix it's obvious that there's a slight
> acceleration of the racing footage (perhaps, 5% not more) so that the
speeds
> the cars were going during shooting are accelerated and more closer to the
> real speeds.
> For the sound, Hollywood studios don't have microphones on their cameras
> (they do sometimes, but rarely in "modern" cinema). All the sound you
hear
> in the movie was done in post-production, or was recorded by mic booms.
> Just watch the Monza race at the end, it's pretty cheesy.
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> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...
John
Here is Clark at Oulton Park:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=569446
Onboard 1963 Lotus 25
> > Obviously, other factors come into play that may allow that in real
life
> > for him, that don't in the game, but some details from the clip would
> help.
> > http://www.circuit-zandvoort.nl/historie/formula1/zandvoort-1.jpg
There's been many stuff in this NG about the cars used in the movie Grand
Prix. Check out Google, I'm sure there's lotsa info there. Or else, wait
for Speedvision to show the movie, they normally have a "Making of" stuck to
the film. IIRC they were F2-based chassis.
Btw check out excellent the cinematography is in those shots. The camera,
fixed, is often commanded by distance (or was is time-based?) for zooms,
tilts, pans, etc...
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/petern
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:41:32 -0700, "John Pancoast"
>> great clip. are there any others? I can't find the home page. thank you.
>> GPLlover.
>> > I know this one's been seen before, but does anyone know the details
>of
>> > Stewart's BRM here ? What year, engine, etc. ? Find it interesting
>that
>> > he's able to go all out on turns that that's impossible at in GPL.
>> > Obviously, other factors come into play that may allow that in real
>life
>> > for him, that don't in the game, but some details from the clip would
>> help.
>> > http://www.circuit-zandvoort.nl/historie/formula1/zandvoort-1.jpg
