Are you sure your '65 cars rev highly enough? -I thought they were very easy
to drive too, until I noticed I'm getting the '67 F2/F3 sound and a
8500-9000rpm rev limit.
Otherwise GEM+ 2 seems to work fine. I can return to '67 settings no
problem.
Jan.
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Marc
The default setups are encoded in the tracks and are for '67 cars. I had a
link to some setups by the beta testers, but I can't find it at the moment.
I'm sure it's mentioned in here somewhere...
Jan.
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Mid-engined cars are (compared to say, 50's GP cars or pre-aero Trans
Am or Can Am etc) much easier to drive near the limit than most people
seem to realize. Couple that with the low power to grip ratio from
the 1.5L formula and of course it's going to seem easy. You still
have to be a great driver to go from being near the limit to actually
on it.
Remember that when F1 teams started switching to mid-engined cars in
58-60, they were initially slower than the front-engined cars, but
were much easier to drive and much easier on fuel and tires so people
like Stirling Moss would qualify 13th and end up winning the race
since he could just relax and do smooth laps and didn't have to pit
for fuel or tires.. Read an account of Aintree 1958 sometime (or was
it Barcelona or Casablanca? Whichever race the mid-engined Cooper
debuted in).
Jason
'Expat' (who owns a 1966ish Brabham BT21 F2/F3 with about the same size
1500cc-ish engine) tried it yesterday and stated outright he thought it
was very good.
So make of that what you will.
Personally, I think it does feel a bit better handling-wise, but the
'high grip' feel you get is
A) caused by the lack of BHP compared to the 67 3 Litre brutes
B) because you are not going near the limit yet. Do, and you will notice
things are getting on the edge of adhesion.
The BRM, btw, has good power but feels more 'slidey' than the Lotus to
me (which seems a smidgen down on power, which may influence things as
well). So if you think the latter is a bit too grippy for your tastes...
Regards, Rudy
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> 'Expat' (who owns a 1966ish Brabham BT21 F2/F3 with about the same size
> 1500cc-ish engine) tried it yesterday and stated outright he thought it
> was very good.
"Real Racing vs 65Mod: Brilliant
Had not been out and about in the BT 21 since a scorching day at
Goodwood last August. As some know, in the past I have found GPL to be a
help before testing/track days and also afterwards to reinforce lessons
learned.
I was therefore all the more delighted to be able to try out - very
briefly - the 65Mod the day before my first outing this season at Brands
Hatch on Sunday.
(..)
Great fun dicing with a bunch of Formula Fords!! They have less power
than my F2 Brabham - but better grip as they run on more modern Avon
compound tires compared to the regulation Dunlop control tires for my
class of car.
(..)
65Mod: have only had time for a few laps but I think it is a remarkable
improvement and much more realistic handling than the 67 cars - which
turns into an air hockey game once you lose grip at lower speeds. The 65
cars can be caught more readily - just as I did managed to do (phew)
with the BT 21 on Sunday through Clearways and Paddock ( ) and doesn't
immediatley go weightless if you put a wheel on the grass.
Haven't been able to even d/l some correct setups so the gearing is
still all wrong (revs max out too low + drop way down like the engine
has a monster flywheel and then you get bogged down - assume/hope the 65
set ups fix this. . .).
NB: - I do NOT think the 65 cars are too easy to drive: I think the
developers got it absolutely right - congratulations to all for the
effort and imrpessive results."
So, that's just about as close info-wise as we're going to get, I guess.
I still don't think GPL 67 was all that far off btw, it got it right by
and large, just needed some fine-tuning; but IMHO with the 65 Mod out,
it remains the premier open-wheel sim atm.
Now if we could only fit a gfx engine update as well ;)
Regards, Rudy
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Jim
