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GPL - Full length GP at The Glen - Running out of fuel

Woodie

GPL - Full length GP at The Glen - Running out of fuel

by Woodie » Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:00:00



>The Triumph TR5 had a six cylinder, 2 liter engine with Lucas injetion
>(PI - Petrol Injection) producing 150 bhp in a road car in 1967 (I think
>it was in -67, or was it in 68?)!

That was in '67, by '68 it was no longer working.

Don McCorkle
Owner of a '68 Triumph T-120R

Woodie

GPL - Full length GP at The Glen - Running out of fuel

by Woodie » Thu, 14 Oct 1999 04:00:00



>>Don McCorkle
>>Owner of a '68 Triumph T-120R

>Listen to this one.. I had a Lotus Eleven with a Coventry Climax F2 engine
>that I raced in SCCA in the late 60's early 70's. The day I got it, I began
>ripping all Lucas stuff off of it. The only Lucas items still on the car were

>the starter and a bakelite fusebox which was mounted on the instrument
>panel. The race car had no fan, the distributor/coil was replaced by a
>Joe Hunt Scintilla Vertex Magneto. The fuel pump was replaced by an
>AC Delco (Corvette) electric, etc. Even the Lucas tail lights were replaced
>by some clearance lights from an auto supply store. The headlights had
>long since been removed and covered and all instruments were either
>Smith mechanical, or replaced with Sun stuff. I rewired the entire car,
>with good ole US of A wire ridding it of every vestige of Lucas equipment.
>I rebuilt the starter with British  (?lucas?) components and I thought I
>was all set to go racing.

>In the 2nd or 3rd race I was in, with the car, I was running 5th or
>something at Indianapolis Raceway Park (the road course), and I had
>about 6 or 8  laps to go and a -good- shot at my first ever podium finish.
>BLAMMO, the car just sputtered to a halt. I thought it was fuel or something.

>I got the damn thing off the track and luckily avoided death. I could
>crank the engine, but it wouldn't start. They waited until after the event
>and towed us back to the paddock. We looked hard and couldn't
>see what was up. All we knew was that we weren't getting spark from
>the Swiss-made/California modified magneto.

>It was getting dark, so we said to hell with it, and got it back on
>the trailer and headed  back to Nashville. The next afternoon we were
>checking it out and there it was. The F***ING LUCAS bakelite fuse
>holder had hairline cracked of it's own accord, and 2 or 3 of the
>fuses were broken in the process. No power to the magneto.......

Yikes, sounds just like my Triumph!  It's completely chopped, custom frame,
hardtail with a girder front end.  Hand wired with a battery eliminator,
headlight, tailight, and brake light.  No switches except for the brake light.
Joe Hunt magneto without a kill switch.  Dopey bike thinks it's running right
now.  The only Lucas left is the generator, and guess what?  A big ass magnet
bolted to the flywheel with a two wire coil around it, couldn't be simpler.
Yup, constant problems with it, and it's behind an engine casing..

Don McCorkle
Drive as if you stole it
Libertarian Motorsports

Edwin Solhei

GPL - Full length GP at The Glen - Running out of fuel

by Edwin Solhei » Thu, 14 Oct 1999 04:00:00

NOW we're talking about Lucas - *king of the darkness*!! :)))

--
All the best,
Edwin Solheim **remove spamguard in address to reply**
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> >>Don McCorkle
> >>Owner of a '68 Triumph T-120R

> >Listen to this one.. I had a Lotus Eleven with a Coventry Climax F2
engine
> >that I raced in SCCA in the late 60's early 70's. The day I got it, I
began
> >ripping all Lucas stuff off of it. The only Lucas items still on the car
were

> >the starter and a bakelite fusebox which was mounted on the instrument
> >panel. The race car had no fan, the distributor/coil was replaced by a
> >Joe Hunt Scintilla Vertex Magneto. The fuel pump was replaced by an
> >AC Delco (Corvette) electric, etc. Even the Lucas tail lights were
replaced
> >by some clearance lights from an auto supply store. The headlights had
> >long since been removed and covered and all instruments were either
> >Smith mechanical, or replaced with Sun stuff. I rewired the entire car,
> >with good ole US of A wire ridding it of every vestige of Lucas
equipment.
> >I rebuilt the starter with British  (?lucas?) components and I thought I
> >was all set to go racing.

> >In the 2nd or 3rd race I was in, with the car, I was running 5th or
> >something at Indianapolis Raceway Park (the road course), and I had
> >about 6 or 8  laps to go and a -good- shot at my first ever podium
finish.
> >BLAMMO, the car just sputtered to a halt. I thought it was fuel or
something.

> >I got the damn thing off the track and luckily avoided death. I could
> >crank the engine, but it wouldn't start. They waited until after the
event
> >and towed us back to the paddock. We looked hard and couldn't
> >see what was up. All we knew was that we weren't getting spark from
> >the Swiss-made/California modified magneto.

> >It was getting dark, so we said to hell with it, and got it back on
> >the trailer and headed  back to Nashville. The next afternoon we were
> >checking it out and there it was. The F***ING LUCAS bakelite fuse
> >holder had hairline cracked of it's own accord, and 2 or 3 of the
> >fuses were broken in the process. No power to the magneto.......

> Yikes, sounds just like my Triumph!  It's completely chopped, custom
frame,
> hardtail with a girder front end.  Hand wired with a battery eliminator,
> headlight, tailight, and brake light.  No switches except for the brake
light.
> Joe Hunt magneto without a kill switch.  Dopey bike thinks it's running
right
> now.  The only Lucas left is the generator, and guess what?  A big ass
magnet
> bolted to the flywheel with a two wire coil around it, couldn't be
simpler.
> Yup, constant problems with it, and it's behind an engine casing..

> Don McCorkle
> Drive as if you stole it
> Libertarian Motorsports

Peter Ive

GPL - Full length GP at The Glen - Running out of fuel

by Peter Ive » Thu, 14 Oct 1999 04:00:00



Wow! Are you serious? I race full length, offline races against the AI
and can finish quite easily and cruise into the pits at the end with 82
laps of fuel.  I race in the Lotus and am easily fast enough to win,
having done so for the first time recently.  Hey, maybe some cars have
more of an affect on fuel consumption than others.
--
Peter Ives

RedRocketRo

GPL - Full length GP at The Glen - Running out of fuel

by RedRocketRo » Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:00:00

  Just out of interest I have had no problems with running out of fuel in
races. I put in enough fuel for 2 more laps (1.5 laps on Spa, Nurburgring),
and haven't even suffered any spluttering.
  Of course, some full-length races (GP's) I haven't made the finish... :))

--

     Rob.


>>So, does anybody know why it takes enough fuel for 112 laps to
>>complete a race of 108 laps?  Anybody have similar experiences at
>>other tracks?

>I've had similar problems at the Glen. I once did a 17-lap VROC race and
>despite filling 18 laps worth of fuel the car began coughing at the
>start of the final lap.

>At each track, I now add a fair amount more fuel than is needed just to
>be sure. For example, I'm about to start a 50% distance GP Level offline
>championship and for the 40-lap Kyalami race I'll probably put in about
>49-50 laps of fuel.

>--
>Cheers!
>Graeme Nash

Mr Meane

GPL - Full length GP at The Glen - Running out of fuel

by Mr Meane » Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:00:00

It's coz you drive too fast! Simply throttle back, take it easy and you
could probably use a few laps' worth less fuel, increasing performace
through having a lighter car.

MM


> >>So, does anybody know why it takes enough fuel for 112 laps to
> >>complete a race of 108 laps?  Anybody have similar experiences at
> >>other tracks?

> >I've had similar problems at the Glen. I once did a 17-lap VROC race and
> >despite filling 18 laps worth of fuel the car began coughing at the
> >start of the final lap.

> >At each track, I now add a fair amount more fuel than is needed just to
> >be sure. For example, I'm about to start a 50% distance GP Level offline
> >championship and for the 40-lap Kyalami race I'll probably put in about
> >49-50 laps of fuel.

> >--
> >Cheers!
> >Graeme Nash

Mr Meane

GPL - Full length GP at The Glen - Running out of fuel

by Mr Meane » Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:00:00

<snip>

I was attempting sarcasm. It was late, I was drunk, it didn't work well.
Ne'er mind.

MM

Graeme Nas

GPL - Full length GP at The Glen - Running out of fuel

by Graeme Nas » Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Yep :-)

I am very *** the car when driving, I use a lot of fuel and overheat
the tyres inside 10 laps... I guess I should calm down but for some
reason whenever I do that I fall off the road! :-)

--
Cheers!
Graeme Nash


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